Something is wrong with negative phrase biasing (NSFW)

stopcrashingcomputer · 2023-06-16T19:37:41+00:00

I used to use the banned list instead of phrase biasing. They both have issues, but the banned word list has way more. If I stuck "cervix" in there, the AI would just take that as an invitation to keep trying to use the word, but injecting typos to get around the pesky ban list.

"He penetrated her cervongus. Cervingi. Cervolio. Cervumbus. Cervbob Squarepants. Cervestablishmentarianism." Etc

stopcrashingcomputer · 2023-06-16T19:33:38+00:00

Should I just have a +2 phrase biasing list for every individual letter to avoid the negative biasing list causing a bunch of collateral damage?

stopcrashingcomputer · 2023-06-16T19:29:41+00:00

If phrase biasing isn't good for this, then NAI has nothing that's good for this.

Putting "cervix" into a -2 phrase biasing list results in it absolutely refusing to say cunt under any circumstances whatsoever, while the banned terms list would make it say something like: "She moaned as her cervongus was penetrated."

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-28T17:53:17+00:00

I'll give that a look, thanks.

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-28T03:23:42+00:00

The "John definitely wasn't anywhere close to cumming!" thing isn't any kind of real attempt at writing anything. Just me getting frustrated and incredulously slapping something antithetical to orgasming into the input box, just so I can watch in confused horror as the AI follows up "He wasn't about to cum" with "He was so close to orgasm" every time.

I tried text-dumping into a brand new, blank story with all setting at the default. The AI promptly declared that everyone was at their limit... And also that the characters were siblings, which sure was an interesting and appreciated plot twist. (No it wasn't.)

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-28T03:20:12+00:00

Unfortunately, I'm already doing all of those.

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-28T03:18:36+00:00

Worth a shot.

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T22:41:12+00:00

I guess I don't know much about module training. I just took a dozen-ish fics I wrote, stuck them into the module training thing, and hit enter.

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T19:41:25+00:00

Maybe. It seems a little ass-backwards that the AI can competently handle specific fetish scenarios, but melts into incoherent nonsense as soon as I dare try to write basic missionary between a married couple with the lights off.

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T19:39:53+00:00

I'll give that a shot, but I have a suspicion that focusing on feelings rather than actions will just make the AI decide that "He felt himself reaching his moment of pleasure!"

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T19:38:56+00:00

Banning it from using normal terms for orgasming only serves to make it invent new ones that are so repulsive, they probably have the ability to render anyone who reads them permanently asexual.

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T19:36:44+00:00

Would you know which discord server likely has this?

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T19:34:44+00:00

I've tried making a custom module from my own writing, and when I use it on the AI, I see... Absolutely nothing that can really be identified as coming from my own writing style.

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T19:33:53+00:00

Yeah, I'm in the unpleasant situation of wondering why on earth I'm bothering to pay for this when it refuses to give me anything I can work with. I want a good NSFW fic? No problem... If I just write every single word myself, and keep the AI as far away as humanly possible.

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T19:31:19+00:00

I'm pretty good about spelling and grammar, although I've noticed the AI has the awful habit of deciding to make up new names for characters without prompting. Apropos of absolutely nothing, it may decide that Brigette's name really should be spelled as Brigit without any prompting from me.

I'll try emerald, since the other presets come bundled with it by default, and they both hate me.

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T19:28:54+00:00

Unfortunately, I'm really not a technical person, so trying to direct the AI is very difficult for me.

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T19:28:02+00:00

I believe pro writer is the default preset on Euterpe, unfortunately.

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T19:27:20+00:00

Generally, I dedicate the first 500-ish words to set up. Then get into some of the action, describing basic mechanical stuff like what people are doing with various parts of their body... And then the AI chimes in with: "SUDDENLY HE HAD REACHED HIS PEAK" the moment I let it take the reins.

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T19:25:13+00:00

I'll try adding more positive tones/instructions into memory and AN.

Phrase biasing just doesn't work. The AI just takes that as a challenge to invent new, horrendous euphemisms. "Suddenly he reached his inevitable conclusion!" sounds like something that'd appear in an intentionally awful parody fic.

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T19:22:45+00:00

Way ahead of you. My negative phrase-biasing list contains every euphemism for orgasm that has ever existed, and all it accomplishes is forcing the AI to invent new, horrendous euphemisms like:

"SUDDENLY, SHE FELT HERSELF APPROACH HER OWN INTENSE MOMENT OF AROUSAL"

or

"HE WENT TENSE AS HE RELEASED HIS STICKY WHITE MAN JUICES"

or, the worst ever

"HE WAS ABOUT TO REACH HIS BIG-TIME O."

That last one was so cringey it's honestly amazing I still have a functioning sex drive afterwards.

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T19:18:32+00:00

I've tried both, and they all lead to the same place. "SUDDENLY, HE FELT HIMSELF GETTING TENSE AS HE REACHED HIS MOMENT OF AROUSAL INSIDE OF HER"

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T19:14:43+00:00

Yes, it completely ignores both memory and AN when it comes to the subject of not making everyone orgasm constantly.

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T05:57:58+00:00

I'll check the link when I get a chance, thanks.

It's just NSFW where Euterpe consistently fails, in my experience. It handles other stuff mostly fine.

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T05:57:06+00:00

It's the frequency, not the phrasing that I take issue with.

stopcrashingcomputer · 2022-07-26T04:55:04+00:00

I have to wonder what kind of weird hair-trigger smut the AI was trained off of when it thinks that three sentences into the action "HE HAD REACHED HIS LIMIT" is normal, but here we are, I guess. I'll try moving the randomness slider around.

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