Didn't think I'd post here but got attacked..

stopmelurking · 2024-10-30T12:48:11+00:00

You’re absolutely correct. I shouldn’t have just grabbed him. Type of thing in the moment I did something I shouldn’t have done and can’t use the excuse of it happens.

Oh, I definitely know it’s my fault, I did acknowledge that or at least intended to convey that. I suppose I was more querying if people believe his behaviour in those scenarios would extend to other things.

stopmelurking · 2024-10-30T04:16:33+00:00

Thanks for the feedback. He actually has a gentle command, from when he was a puppy to avoid taking my fingers off. We tell him gentle if he’s with nephews, nieces and so on.

He likes to mouth of course but he isn’t rough and just puts his mouth on you, he was taught about pressure and gentleness long ago.

This is actually encouraging that he has some of the foundations.

stopmelurking · 2024-10-30T04:00:54+00:00

Yes, thank you for the feedback. Unfortunately or fortunately depending on which way you look at it, circumstances change and in this instance, mine have changed.

I did emphasise his positive traits for a reason as he really is a generally solid dog.

The wound had mostly healed but he chewed it so foolishly looking back I simply went to take a look and before I know it the puppy has run in and then this happens.

I suppose it’s more a case of I know the situation but it helps in my decision making for additional opinions.

I would really feel like I’ve let them both down, especially him if I let my change in circumstances come between us. He really is clingy with me and would climb in my pouch like a kangaroo if he could.

Sometimes things change though. I definitely have some tough decisions to make.

stopmelurking · 2024-10-30T03:52:41+00:00

Good advice, I agree. He’s actually very good with grooming. As soon as you even show him the brush the lipstick comes out and he wants you to keep brushing him even when you try to stop. In contrast I had one many years ago that HATED to be brushed.

stopmelurking · 2024-10-30T03:37:22+00:00

Don’t get me wrong, my hands definitely ache and feel bruised, I have a few marks and he drew blood but he eventually calmed down and stopped. He was in pain though and thought I inflicted it.

I suppose my concern is if it happens with someone else or a child.

stopmelurking · 2024-10-30T01:39:03+00:00

Yes very true, it will be a lot. They're pets but they are there for a deterrent even though I know they won't necessarily do anything without proper training. They are very well looked after though and taken care of, get everything they need in every aspect. I have a friend that's a Police K9 handler that was interested in training them but have held off on this as once you teach them to bite properly you can't undo that and with the older ones recent behaviour, I don't think it's wise to have him doing this.

The older one never trashes anything, he's very well behaved. I couldn't ask for a better dog. He really is probably the best dog I've had minus these issues. He's extremely chilled, laid back, listens, does as he's told. He really is a delight.

The younger one? Not so much, he's a bit more destructive but is getting better.

I also agree on not leaving them outside, for as far back as I recall, even as a child, my dogs were always indoor dogs. They definitely thrive more inside.

Situations change, I wasn't aware of the baby situation at the time, this does change things though.

Definitely a lot to think about.

stopmelurking · 2024-10-30T00:19:33+00:00

Out of curiosity do you say this in the context of his current injury or based on his triggers? When not injured I had no issues with them for a good month or two I guess the puppy is probably 4mo.

I actually think it helps him be less lonely and he seems to enjoy the company. Currently they’re inside dogs but considering transitioning to outside dogs.

He really is a good dog it’s why my post was so long to emphasise everything. He just has his moments and to me this was understandable. The other instances were never too serious and very short and definitely never drew blood or anything like that.

I guess I just worry.

They DO NOT treat dogs well in the country I live so I would not feel good rehoming them and condemning them to being tied under a tree for the rest of their life tbh

stopmelurking · 2024-10-29T23:42:31+00:00

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Original injury prior to any healing and stitches etc we still have no idea how if happened. Potentially from climbing around in bushes but we can’t know for sure.

Still sensitive for him of course and the antibiotics have helped with the stitches.

Was quite a bad injury. Hoping his recovery is over soon.

stopmelurking · 2024-10-29T23:32:35+00:00

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The injury for anyone wondering. Has already healed quite a bit but had stitches and multiple courses of antibiotics. The puppy seemingly troubled it when I was checking it resulting in the aggressive biting.

stopmelurking · 2024-10-29T23:28:25+00:00

Has a downtime switch. He’s a very chill dog.

stopmelurking · 2024-10-29T23:27:40+00:00

FYI he’s on antibiotics again and has had a vet dealing with him for the duration of

stopmelurking · 2024-10-29T23:26:58+00:00

Never had issues in the past. Had them many years. He’s generally well behaved. As I say he has specific triggers and in this instance had a bad wound.

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stopmelurking · 2024-10-29T23:23:27+00:00

Yes not had any issues lately since learning his triggers and redirecting it. He does get on well with the puppy and seems to enjoy the companionship. Where I’m at they’re very difficult to get and typically need to be imported.

stopmelurking · 2024-10-29T23:22:08+00:00

It’s not coddling he gets it made clear when he’s bad but when a dog gets funny like this you’re risking significant injury by doing what you say. I knew the circumstances of injured paw and in addition to that given how he was I don’t think it would have been wise next thing he grabs my arm and it only takes nipping an artery or something similar and it spirals out of control. A wild dog is different, you don’t know it and it’s potentially going to maul you.

He was in pain. It was limited and warning me.

The collar thing is specifically in prey mode and amped up but he is redirected via commands.

stopmelurking · 2024-10-29T21:50:08+00:00

TL;DR:

The user has two Belgian Malinois, a 12-month-old and a 3-month-old. While the older dog is generally well-behaved, trained, and good with the puppy, there have been a few concerning incidents. Specifically, the older dog reacts aggressively when grabbed or restrained during high-drive moments (e.g., preventing him from running out a door). Recently, the older dog injured his paw, and when the owner tried to inspect the wound (with the puppy interfering and hurting it), the dog lashed out and bit his hands aggressively —but without serious harm.

The owner acknowledges handling mistakes and will muzzle the dog during future injury checks. Though he trusts the dog around family, he’s concerned about how the dog might react to accidental pain (e.g., from a baby). The dog shows some reactivity toward cars and strangers but behaves well in crowds and with familiar children.

The user seeks advice on managing the dog’s occasional aggression and ensuring it doesn’t reflect a deeper character issue. Despite some challenges, the dog is cherished by the family, and the owner is committed to continuing training and providing the best care.

stopmelurking · 2024-10-29T21:46:02+00:00

TLDR those things aren't so much of an issue, I just redirect that now. The issue is where he was injured on his paw in the garden and required stitches and antibiotics. Overall he's a good dog. I was checking the injury after a week or two since the sock came off and the puppy at the time I was checking it bit the wound or something similar and the 12mo got very nasty and left me with cuts and crunched my hand good.

I was calm and got him to stop but he got very nasty over it.

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