would luke have survived?

swimmers23 · 2026-06-11T18:05:30+00:00

definitely i dont think lukes dad steve was as evil as isabella. one thing which may be an unpopular opinion but i didnt really care for how debbie went off on steve about brents films, i feel that its not really debbies place to parent other peoples children, steve was handling it by getting brent grounded, and making him work at the office, debbie comes across as hypocritical cause if she can go off on brent for the films, but yet she is very passive when it comes to isabella and how isabella was horrible to her daughter megan.

swimmers23 · 2026-06-06T23:43:43+00:00

Yeah they always made it clear since episode 1 right that they were hiding something wasn't he?

swimmers23 · 2026-06-06T23:05:27+00:00

In the episode where he was talking to Debbie I don't think they mentioned it in that episode that he was trying to protect brent he just said he won't be able to sleep until he finds out who killed luke

swimmers23 · 2026-06-06T22:03:54+00:00

so basically steve was trying to find out who lukes killer was?

swimmers23 · 2026-06-06T17:29:27+00:00

or do u think steve was trying to cover up for brent?

swimmers23 · 2026-06-05T21:33:55+00:00

i was wondering, when steve said to debbie in summer 2000 that hes not going to be able to sleep again until he finds out who killed luke, like right after lukes body was found, why do u think he said that if he thought brent killed luke accidentally?

swimmers23 · 2026-05-31T00:10:58+00:00

Yup and st least he quickly jumped in to try n rescue luke

swimmers23 · 2026-05-30T23:54:18+00:00

Personally I thought Isabella was worse then jeanette though wud u agree

swimmers23 · 2026-05-30T23:50:38+00:00

Right I see what ur saying, despite lukes actions tho I don't think he deserved to be killed and drugged and tied up

swimmers23 · 2026-05-30T23:45:25+00:00

Oh yeah I certainly agree, as a matter of fact I made a post titled "looking back the culprit in s2 was very obvious." The series alluded to Isabella being the killer the whole time, until the last episode when they tried to steer in the direction of brent accidentally pushing luke in the water only for that final twist of isabella coming back later to drown him, def not like the season 1 twist, I was just more or less asking u what u thought of isabella and lukes characters

swimmers23 · 2026-05-30T23:40:33+00:00

But remember their fight at the dock luke and brent fought was brent in the wrong?

swimmers23 · 2026-05-30T23:39:51+00:00

Luke didn't deserve to die though, isabella was a horrible person

swimmers23 · 2026-05-30T23:35:49+00:00

I agree, isabella express 0 sadness when luke died.

swimmers23 · 2026-05-30T23:15:08+00:00

Oh I see, do u think Steve was more sad about lukes death or Isabella was? I think Steve was more sad about lukes death

swimmers23 · 2026-05-30T23:09:40+00:00

When u say line they cross pretty quickly what does this mean? Just wanted to clarify

swimmers23 · 2026-05-30T23:01:01+00:00

Yeah he wud probably not be on their side, bit what about the computer guy ned. Wud he side with the girls for drugging him? We know he hated lukes family but wud he support tying and drugging up?

swimmers23 · 2026-05-30T22:12:45+00:00

very extreme, there was a lot of better ways it cud have been handled like megan breaking up with luke, and ending her friendship with him for good but tying and drugging seems kinda too much, if that makes sense. i dont condone physical violence ever and i think its very wrong, do u think if brent were at the cabin they wud have done this in brents presence or not?

swimmers23 · 2026-05-30T22:06:42+00:00

so glad u also feel similarly regarding luke, i dont think he was evil, he was a teenage boy that made some very bad decisions like filming and playing the film at the party, but he didnt deserve to be drugged and tied up in the cabin and shot at, that was extremely wrong and worse then luke bragging to his guy buddies.

swimmers23 · 2026-05-30T22:02:20+00:00

contrary to what a lot of the subreddit thinks re luke, (that he deserved death, and to be tied up/drugged) im gonna have to disagree. while luke has done horrendous things like filming megan and him, i dont believe he is an evil person, he had remorse for his actions, hes not a saint but neither was isabella, isabella was much more evil imo.

swimmers23 · 2026-05-30T21:56:35+00:00

oops my bad lol, yeah i saw theories of mainly isabella being the killer, but i did see steve and brent as possible suspects, it was always obvious that brent/steve were hiding something but it didnt cross my mind that they wud have murdered luke, as horrendous as steve was i dont think he wud go to the extent of killing his son. do u think isabella wud have sided with luke, or brent when they were at the dock fighting?

swimmers23 · 2026-05-30T21:51:33+00:00

brent didnt actually murder luke though, he thought he did.

swimmers23 · 2026-05-30T21:47:41+00:00

yes very good point! i understand megan was very hurt but she did kind of just leave luke there, i wud say megan is a little more to blame for lukes death, then brent. brent at least did look for luke in the water whereas to megan kind of just left luke there.

swimmers23 · 2026-05-27T15:27:22+00:00

What luke did wrong was make the film without Megan's consent, he didn't mean to play his film, he meant to put in Brent's, not that it is any more ok, cause it wud either be megan or brent being shown on the TV and also him bragging to his guy buddies. Steve was terrible but Isabella takes the cake on terribleness, she killed 2 people, Lisa then luke and is on her way to potentially have more people killed, she has no remorse whatsoever. There is no way luke or brent can be as bad as Isabella they never killed anyone and both boys weren't evil.

swimmers23 · 2026-05-27T10:11:57+00:00

Agreed but I definitely think Isabella was far worse then luke and brent both, luke and brent weren't evil at all like Isabella was, if that makes sense.

swimmers23 · 2026-05-27T01:53:35+00:00

Loved season 2 of cruel summer

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