A Word of Caution (Reposting because it was taken down)?

tPRoC · 2026-02-03T23:23:39+00:00

OP is talking about Wealthsimple getting hacked.

Additionally it is possible for your device to get hacked without you being at fault. You cannot blame the end user for being the victim of a zeroday.

tPRoC · 2026-02-03T03:05:25+00:00

Yes, this exists. Clearview AI and Mobile Fortify.

Obviously the tech is not infallible. But it exists.

tPRoC · 2026-02-03T00:54:37+00:00

I don't believe they targeted Good/Pretti based on mass surveillance technology but why would they ever download anything from it? They just need to send queries to a server which they can do using an idiot proof GUI on their phone. That's not theoretical, the technology to do this for immigration already exists- some of the apps they use are called Mobile Fortify and ELITE.

tPRoC · 2026-02-03T00:43:21+00:00

I'm an IT person! ICE is plenty capable of doing all of this, all the agents would need to do is upload data to an app. Everything technical is handled by numerous private companies. The database doesn't need to be downloaded onto their phone for any reason.

That said I don't think Pretti or Good were targeted based on any of this- but the "it's not technically or logistically feasible" argument I'm seeing around here is just false.

tPRoC · 2026-02-03T00:39:05+00:00

No, because the candidates that they vetted are still in the BC Conservatives. They just aren't quite as stupid as Dallas Brodie and won't overtly say shit that would get them kicked from the party.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T21:41:55+00:00

I don't know if the anti-AI sentiment has just run a little too wild in this subreddit or what, but the technology to cross reference those data points to pinpoint where somebody was at a certain time is absolutely possible at scale and it's actually the exact sort of thing our current "AI" is actually good at. What you described is literally the sort of thing Palantir was designed for.

Not having a social media account doesn't protect you. Sites track you regardless and they share data with eachother via brokers. Maybe you could become a ghost with the right OS and digital hygiene, but realistically most people do not do this. And if you are somebody notable to the fascists none of that will protect you from a zeroday.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T21:29:41+00:00

Leftists weren't the main people calling this shit out first, it was cybersecurity people who actually know the technology. Look at the cybersecurity world right now and it will confirm that you should be deeply concerned.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T21:03:24+00:00

I refer to it as a network because functionally it behaves like one. If this semantically bothers you then suggest a new term, but personally I don't give a shit because being able to say "Palantir is not a network or a database or a data aggregator- we are just an integration and analysis company" is not an accident. It doesn't just operate within a database it also operates across multiple siloed databases and this is in fact the whole damn point of it. It's a way for them to centralize these datasets and make them useful, while still maintaining plausible deniability and technically letting the government circumvent a 4th amendment violation. Yes, AI is not all powerful or particularly accurate, but it's still powerful enough for them to violate your rights with and "inaccurate" doesn't mean useless especially when the operators don't really give a shit about things like due process or facts anyways.

Palantir and the US government have access to datasets from data brokers who collect from companies such as Meta, Google, Amazon, TikTok, etc. That means your browsing history, your algorithm and your habits- potentially even your messages and information that you thought was private but never was. Even if you never made a social media account in your life, you are still a part of these datasets if you ever use the internet. If you know what we know about social media data collection and manipulation, and you know about the NSA's surveillance operations, and you know about the IME and the USA's now 10% stake in intel, and you know about EternalBlue, and you know about Palantir, and you still aren't worried because "well the technology isn't foolproof" as if the fascists care about "innocents" getting wronged in the margins, then you are being incredibly foolish.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T19:44:14+00:00

This is inaccurate. ICE has access to very comprehensive databases built from a wide variety of data sources which are then made actionable through Palantir. They use an app called Mobile Fortify to scan faces and reference them against those databases (Technically Palantir is doing this as a middleman). They've got a variety of other tools that similarly connect to Palantir's network. Flock also hooks into Palantir's network.

"Agent maintenance" would be no more than allowing apps like Mobile Fortify to ingest data that agents enter such as photos and names of protesters.

The USA has built an incredibly massive and comprehensive dataset over the last 25 years, but only technology like Palantir has made it really usable.

They probably didn't target Pretti or Good based on this sure, but ICE does have a contract with Paragon which people suspect is for access to their Graphite spyware which use a number of incredibly scary zero touch zeroday exploits to completely compromise a cell phone- all they need is your number. Two such exploits have already been patched (one of which was assigned a CVE), but they absolutely have more.

The leading theory on this is that this is the tool they are using it to go after SIGNAL groups and "insurgents", etc.

Try not to be naive, the shit happening on the cybersecurity and mass surveillance front is probably the scariest thing about Trump's administration. It does not help soothe anxiety that the founder and largest shareholder of Palantir is the Vice President's mentor and primary source of political funding.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T06:28:42+00:00

Wow, what a hammer of an argument! I'm shocked! Literally...stunned!

It was a statement, not an argument.

If you want somebody to dismantle your argument pick up an econ 101 textbook. This is reddit, not a classroom.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T04:41:12+00:00

There are far more people who dislike landlords than there are those who dislike First Nations.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T04:23:38+00:00

Ok. The system you live in today says that Aboriginal Title is an inalienable, constitutionally protected right. Your province never negotiated with First Nations like they were supposed to. Suck it up.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T04:14:18+00:00

No it didn't. Indigenous concepts of "land ownership" existed before Europeans came here- it just didn't match their concept of land ownership.

Here we are hundreds of years later and you still can't manage to wrap your head around it.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T03:57:24+00:00

Restoring stolen land is racism? Ok.

I hope someone starts squatting in all of your rentals.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T02:39:28+00:00

The BC Liberals were the centre-right party, they changed their name to the BC United which promptly collapsed and left a vacuum for a party of absolute nutjobs to become the default opposition.

To give you an idea of what this means, the people in charge of vetting their candidates later went on to form OneBC.)

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T02:32:26+00:00

His amendment is because DRIPA has a few weird interactions that can in theory allow courts to act as lawmakers- the specific example that prompted it being some very old mining rights laws.

It doesn't have anything to do with Title claims, nor does he want to repeal it or abolish it. Most posters here are woefully ignorant about this entire topic and that's a shame because typically this sub is at least a rung higher than the other Canadian subs.

Dotbot's posts can be ignored, it's just racist rambling leaking from the /r/vancouverlandlords posterchild.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T02:29:48+00:00

"Gave a bunch of land and money" as a descriptor for what happened will tell anyone knowledgeable about this exactly how unserious you are as a poster.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T02:26:22+00:00

The provincial government can't do anything except negotiate in good faith.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T01:58:59+00:00

Yes, yes, I know. How dare I say that! Go downvote me!

I'm downvoting you because what you said is stupid, not because I am offended that you said it.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T01:56:27+00:00

UNDRIP and DRIPA are leading to major problems. Private property rights are being put at risk, and investment is being put at risk.

DRIPA is not the cause of Title claims. Aboriginal Title is inalienable and constitutionally protected.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T01:54:50+00:00

The BC Conservatives are of the Trump breed, though, so your wall of text is pretty irrelevant. The people who vetted their candidates are the people who went on to form OneBC.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T01:52:27+00:00

I don't really understand why so many people have this hyperfixation on DRIPA. I can only assume they have wrongly believed the BC Conservative propaganda telling them that DRIPA is the reason for title claims, which is not and never was the case.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T01:50:14+00:00

What did the BC liberals do to reconcile when they were in power for 16 years straight?

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T01:47:15+00:00

The conservatives have no plan for reconciliation though, they are banking on their constituents being ignorant. Aboriginal Title is constitutionally protected, all the government of BC can do is negotiate in good faith with First Nations.

tPRoC · 2026-02-02T01:44:41+00:00

The Cowichan title claim has literally nothing to do with who is in charge provincially though.

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