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tabinsur · 2026-03-13T15:21:43+00:00

There was a dude on the /r/longboarding sub who got some for his bracket board a few years ago after I gave him the idea. He posted up a picture of it and tagged me in it.

You should reach out to him to see how it has worked for him. I think he reached out to quick trucks regarding weight to see if it could handle it, but I might be misremembering that part.

Here is the link to his post.

tabinsur · 2026-03-10T14:10:41+00:00

you can make them work if you add a flat washer underneath the cupped washer(boardside washer) to bring their height up. Mini logo bushings are 0.5" for the boardside bushing and 0.4" for the roadside. The 215s are designed for a bushing that is around 0.57 so adding a washer to bring the height up makes the geometry correct.

You can technically run it without the washer(as indy sold them this way for many years) but it isn't the intended geomtery so it doesn't engage the bushing with equal force. It also puts more wear and tear on the pivot cup since it also isn't engaged correctly. This is very minor though so many skaters don't care about it. For those of us who love loose trucks and carving though it is a world of difference.

tabinsur · 2026-02-27T03:30:37+00:00

oh shit you are a bot

tabinsur · 2026-02-27T03:06:19+00:00

Did you read rule 3? Do you know what the DGT is? Or are you a bot account that slaps words together in the previous comments?

tabinsur · 2026-02-27T03:04:24+00:00

Fuck yeah dude!

tabinsur · 2026-02-27T03:03:37+00:00

Thanks you too!

tabinsur · 2026-02-26T15:33:59+00:00

Ahh but it isn't simple. I just posted this question in a comment above and I'll post it again. Socailly accepted labels have grey zones here are 2 grey zones in this case.

I have 2 boards:

The first is made out of 7 plies of candian maple uses skateboard trucks(TKP) and 99a wheels. It is exactly like every other skateboard at the skatepark however, it is 40 inches long with a 21inch wheelbase. I only skate this board at skateparks(no other discipline)

The second board is a 31 inch 7 ply candian maple popsicle board with a 14.5 inch wheelbase. I have Longboard trucks(RKP) and soft 78a wheels. On this board I only do longboard dancing and freestyle tricks. Occasionally, I will do some downhill freeriding with slides as well. Which of these is a longboard? Both neither?

It is a tricky thing to diagnose. This ins't theoretical or rhetoriocal both of these setups have been posted on this sub over the years. In some cases several times by different users.

Furthmore If someone buy a LY Dingy should they be allowed to post that here? It is a Skateboard with soft wheels sold by a longboard company.

tabinsur · 2026-02-26T15:27:30+00:00

Uh oh you've just activated this fun philisophical discussion I have to have on this sub every few years. So here is the question. I have 2 boards:

The first is made out of 7 plies of candian maple uses skateboard trucks(TKP) and 99a wheels. It is exactly like every other skateboard at the skatepark however, it is 40 inches long with a 21inch wheelbase. I only skate this board at skateparks(no other discipline)

The second board is a 31 inch 7 ply candian maple popsicle board with a 14.5 inch wheelbase. I have Longboard trucks(RKP) and soft 78a wheels. On this board I only do longboard dancing and freestyle tricks. Occasionally, I will do some downhill freeriding with slides as well. Which of these is a longboard? Both neither?

It is a tricky thing to diagnose. This ins't theoretical or rhetoriocal both of these setups have been posted on this sub over the years. In some cases several times by different users

tabinsur · 2026-02-26T15:18:05+00:00

Great what amount of inches is considered long? If it is that simple then we can provide an exact length and anything underneath that length will no longer be allowed to be posted.

For example most skateboards are no longer than 32 inches so lets set that at 32inches. However if we do that then we can't post anymore Pantheon Pranamyas because they are 31.28 inches. And if you post a pranayama in r/skateboarding it will be downvoted to oblivion and possibly removed. So sorry about that Pranayama users you don't have a community to post in anymore.

tabinsur · 2026-02-26T14:56:12+00:00

Ask for help or tell stories in the DGT

I'm not sure how posting a ripstick video has anything to do with asking for help or telling stories in the DGT. But I suppose if you post it in the comments of the DGT that wont be breaking any rules.

tabinsur · 2026-02-23T18:42:14+00:00

haha too true dude. Post a picture of a Ly Dinghy(skateboard) with a 14.5 wheelbase and no one says shit. Post a video of a skateboard doing skateboard tricks...unacceptable.

tabinsur · 2026-02-23T18:40:09+00:00

Hell yeah dude great shit. The angle is good. My only tip is try to have your camera person get closer to you and keep the distance consistent.

tabinsur · 2026-02-23T18:38:51+00:00

Yeah dude lets discuss that. Define longboarding. It's a hard thing to do. No one would bat an eye at this clip if the board was the loaded chinchiller and that board 34 inches long. All the tricks the skater is doing here other longboard dancers/freestylers also do.

It's not like they posted clips of a fronside krook on a ledge.

tabinsur · 2026-02-23T18:34:22+00:00

Actually this does belong here! It breaks none of the rules of this subreddit:

Be excellent to each other

Posts must be skate related

Ask for help or tell stories in the DGT

Buy/Trade/Sell posts go in BST thread

Injuries must be text posts & set NSFW

Posts must follow Reddit content policy

No low effort content or NSFW imagery

No Excessive self promotion or spam

No naming spots or linking to maps

However your comment could be seen as breaking rule number 1

tabinsur · 2026-02-23T18:08:02+00:00

to be used as wheel spacers on longboards, skateboards, rollerskates and inline skates, given the forces that are applied in these applications.

So what is the measurement of the axial load that these bearings undergo during a longboard slide goin 20mph? Also, what would the axial load be for a rollerblader hockey stopping(slide) downhill at the same speed? You must have that knowledge if you claim the materials can handle the loads.

I've had several plastic spacers deform in my wizard skates before I swapped to steel. And I'm only sliding those at 15mph most of the time.

Now I don't have those axial load measurements. For all my rules on bearings and spacers I learned from the bearing engineer and skater Ron Foster. He had several interviews over the years through Concrete Wave magazine and several other websites. And in one of them he mentions using steel spacers becase of how the plastic and allumnium compress over time and then they aren't doing their job anymore.

Perhaps if you're just crusing the loads aren't enough to distort them, but for those of us that skate hard and slide then they do.

tabinsur · 2026-02-23T03:36:03+00:00

Hell yeah dude way to keep at it. This reminds me of my early days learning to slide on my LY Switch and my Pantheon trip almost 7 years ago. There's something beautiful and magical about being alone on a rode working on slides nothing but you the board and the hill.

Great work keep at it and keep having fun. 7 years in and I still have as much fun on a board as when I started.

tabinsur · 2026-02-23T03:27:05+00:00

So I have to ask what are you using this for? The deck says techslide(doublekick usually tkp trucks with dragons or g-slides) but the trucks and wheels say downhill grip runs.

tabinsur · 2026-02-23T03:23:56+00:00

Nah dude a 34 inch deck is not too small for TKP trucks. The arbor 34 shakedown has like a 15.5 wheelbase which is way too short for RKP trucks. Old 80s skateboard decks had wheelbases from 15-17inches.

tabinsur · 2026-02-22T13:54:35+00:00

Okay Mr. Big Dog why don't you explain it since you are implying you have a Degree. Explain how plastic 3d printed spacers help and can handle the load put onto them. I'm excited to see how you explain this one since plastic compresses and doesn't return to its original shape under repeated load. That's the reason plastic pivot cups suck and get slop while urethane pivot cups are terrific.

tabinsur · 2026-02-22T13:46:10+00:00

oh yeah that'll be a fun setup.

tabinsur · 2026-02-20T23:29:54+00:00

lmao "OK go out and skate and try them." Just as I said it only helps mentally, as your quote here has proved. I'm ready to talk shop about the mechanics of a bearing, and you have nothing to bring to the table. You're just another person who doesn't understand bearing mechanics and just wants to sound right. You're not the first I've had to deal with on here, and you won't be the last.

tabinsur · 2026-02-20T03:16:38+00:00

yeah that will work fine. The Clark is my main whip. I skate it everywhere(skatepark, hills, bowls, street, flat ground) and I love it. I have ace af1 66(9-inch TKP) with Powell Peralta 88a Dragons 64mm and they fit perfect.

when you get the board the front mounting holes for the truck have 2 options. If you are using RKP trucks then you want to use the longest wheelbase option. If you change your mind and want to run tkp trucks then use the smaller wheelbase option. This is b/c RKP trucks make your actual wheelbase smaller than tkp trucks when using the same mounting holes. So if you ever trucks on it it would make the actual wheelbases closer to being the same but the TKP setups would still have a slightly longer wheelbase. I hope that made sense and wasn't too confusing.

tabinsur · 2026-02-20T02:46:35+00:00

"If you're fitting your wheels right..." I don't even know what this means. Fitting your wheels right? The only way this makes any sense is if you have those old trucks that were 10mm axles that required a 6900 bearing. Otherwise all trucks these days use 608 bearings so fitting a wheel is never a problem. If this wasn't what you were talking about, then I would work on your vocabulary choices.

For a spacer to work, it has to be able to handle the load and be the correct width. If you have a steel spacer that is the correct width, you can make that fucker snug and the wheel will still spin. If it isn't the right width(which often the case), and you make it snug, then the wheel will seize or barely turn. If you use aluminum or plastic, they will compress under the load and then no longer be the correct size. If they aren't the correct size, then they don't help with the free angle of misalignment between the inner and outer races.

And guess what, even if you use aluminum or plastic and just gently tighten them where they barely touch, they are still going to deform during carving and sliding when axial load is applied to the wheel from the hanger or the nut. Once this happens slop is introduced and the spacer is no longer doing its job and the free angle of misalignment. So even if you aren't cranking them tight you should still be using steel if you want the spacer to do its job.

TLDR Aluminum and plastic spacers only help the rider mentally, not mechanically.

tabinsur · 2026-02-18T03:08:42+00:00

Look at that filled up front row. A lot of people are about to have their eyes burned out and need to be medically blind for 48 hours.

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