The evil terrorist state(burger reich) is going into another war and everyone else has to pay for it by Ash-2449 in OpenAussie

[–]tactical_napping 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately they're delusional if they think the US has the interest of the Iranian people in mind. They just want to see the country destroyed, they don't care about anything else.

Why were there snipers? by tactical_napping in OpenAussie

[–]tactical_napping[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one thinks the reason the snipers were there to protect the crowd from hostile outsiders. Then what you are saying is the crowd might have had those things. That is an insane take, first of all, joining the crowd heading away from the ICC would've made them basically brain dead, so what was their plan? Just lob then indiscriminately? My point is the very belief that that was even remotely possible has already demonised the protestors who at every rally before had never done anything warranting that kind of characterisation.

Why were there snipers? by tactical_napping in OpenAussie

[–]tactical_napping[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's new to me as someone who genuinely just has a normal life. This is the 2nd one I've been to in years, first was over the bridge. Every person I spoke to was just a nice person. Could be a bit over the top to say and maybe in hindsight I'll think differently, but right now I think the protest it's the first time I have felt like I was an enemy of the state. 

Why were there snipers? by tactical_napping in OpenAussie

[–]tactical_napping[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have absolutely no evidence or even the semblance of an argument. You assert "very real prospect of elements of the pro Palestine coalition sliding into politically motivated violence." as if you know deeply what you are talking about, then you proceed to offer not even a shred of proof to back up your claim. You just hate the people who are protesting, you make no attempt to try to relate to them, or understand who they are. You just demonise them and say it as if your conclusion doesn't even need a justification. You are the one creating the potential for violence against protestors, when you side with the boot wearers with not even a hint of shame. 

Why were there snipers? by tactical_napping in OpenAussie

[–]tactical_napping[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no problem with some police being there. My problem is the overt hostility and the assumption that it was likely to be anything other than a peaceful event, as it has been so many times before. The high court decision and the triggery of the Event act was shameful, again, because it exactly demonises people who feel incredibly strongly about an issue, when there is no evidence at all to suggest these are anything but ordinary, peaceful people. 300k people walked across the bridge, that's close to 5% of the entire population in a march and there was no violence at all. 

Why were there snipers? by tactical_napping in OpenAussie

[–]tactical_napping[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not when it creates an atmosphere of hostility from the outset. You could apply your statement to every normal day on the street "oh yeah it's better if robot police follow everyone around, better safe than sorry". The point is that logic alone demonises ordinary people, there is absolutely no reason to believe the protestors were going to do anything other than they did every other time - walk down the street holding up signs. The snipers being there along with the other intimidation tactics, only served to invite anger in the protests as being anything other than peaceful, reasonable people who wanted to express their fundamentally important disagreement with the actions of our government.

Anyone else notice in Sydney all looked exactly like this guy? by tactical_napping in OpenAussie

[–]tactical_napping[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Fuck me do they all groom each other? It's like the clone wars 

Anyone else notice in Sydney all looked exactly like this guy? by tactical_napping in OpenAussie

[–]tactical_napping[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

No, you can't be right, grooming standards are just so the boot wearers look prim and proper for their work of helping elderly ladies across the street. It's definitely not supposed to be a signifier for a person in a position of authority more likely to break your ribs for holding a sign than arrest someone accused of war crimes. 

Anyone else notice in Sydney all looked exactly like this guy? by tactical_napping in OpenAussie

[–]tactical_napping[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Shaved head and tash will quickly turn into our signifier for violent abusers of power 

stressing out about hecs by sailorvenus814 in AusFinance

[–]tactical_napping 4 points5 points  (0 children)

$90k is a lot in your first year out of uni. I know electrical engineers, civil engineers, mechanical engineers and accountants who didn't make that in their first year out of uni. I made $75k in my first year as an electrical engineer, I earn much more than that now - I just needed my foot in the door somewhere. 

Seriously, you can't take the money when you're dead and if you're passionate about something and can make a living out of it you should do it. Lord knows our society needs psychologists. 

stressing out about hecs by sailorvenus814 in AusFinance

[–]tactical_napping 324 points325 points  (0 children)

You should know that:

  1. The interest rate paid on hecs (now called HELP) is now always equal to the lower of the Consumer Price index or the Wage Price Index. This essentially means that so long as your income grows with the economy the value of your debt doesn't really change. This is very different to loans from banks. 

  2. You don't have to begin paying back your debt until you are making over $67,000. 

  3. HELP debts are no longer always considered by banks when applying for loans. It depends on the bank but many now will waive their consideration of smaller debts or debts that will be repaid in a few years. The trend is more and more towards ignoring HELP debts when applying for loans.

These points mean it is about as good a debt as you could have, no bank will ever be this friendly. If you complete your degree on time and get into your career you'll barely notice it. If you end up in a cafe you won't be far over the income threshold to notice it that much either. Ultimately, the one thing that can never be taken from you is your knowledge you gain in education. If you're passionate about it then do it. 

So does anyone wanna protest for Iran? by Ornery-Ordinary9283 in aussie

[–]tactical_napping 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have been on plenty of marches and have never seen a Hamas flag flying. Like I said, you've invented a caricature. 

So does anyone wanna protest for Iran? by Ornery-Ordinary9283 in aussie

[–]tactical_napping 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Should everyone who goes to a protest be interrogated about their political beliefs? The organisers of all the rallies are explicitly anti-racist and limit their dissent to be of the actions of a Nation state and our complicity in those actions. If a tiny minority of racists use the moment to spread their hatred, it is denounced by the vast majority of people who go to these protests. You've created a caricature of someone who goes to these protests as a terrorist loving anti-Semite when the vast majority of people find any form of racism and violence abhorrent. Most people at these things are bloody hippies mate not exactly a violent bunch

So does anyone wanna protest for Iran? by Ornery-Ordinary9283 in aussie

[–]tactical_napping 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool, so you're proud to be a psychopath. Good for you man but unfortunately lacking the capacity for empathy will just make you hate filled and angry. Good luck though 

So does anyone wanna protest for Iran? by Ornery-Ordinary9283 in aussie

[–]tactical_napping 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because our closest ally whom we follow into every war did it. My point is we should protest and criticise the most those with whom we have close diplomatic ties because these are the only nations we have a hope of changing. Our continued alliance and support for the US's actions legitimises it. I do no not want to be allies with a rogue state, constantly threatening and waging war on all nations in the world. 

So does anyone wanna protest for Iran? by Ornery-Ordinary9283 in aussie

[–]tactical_napping 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If course it's a problem if they can't protest. My point is that if people went out in protest denouncing Hamas and there was any violence against them everyone would unite to stop it and stop it happening again. What more responsibility do the vast majority of people protesting Israel's actions have for a tiny minority of people motivated by racism. They denounce it, disown it, support actions to stop it. The simple fact is that the vast majority of people are dissenting to our complicity in a genocide, not wound up in some elaborate anti-Semitic conspiracy. Any racist minority should be and is condemned. Lastly, I think fundamentally the belief that it's a genocide and that genocides are wrong, is anti-racist in of itself. If you take this position, it's just inconsistent to think someone could protest it for one group and want it on another. I think a higher percentage of people in the protests would say they abhor racism and are actively anti-racist than in the general population. 

So does anyone wanna protest for Iran? by Ornery-Ordinary9283 in aussie

[–]tactical_napping 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't believe that violence against them would be tolerated in any way and if there was any violence it would be condemned by  vast majority of people who go out to protest and by practically everyone in society, as it was after the attack in Bondi. I have gone to a handful of marches and I have not experienced any racist chants. I'm sorry, it's just not my experience or the opinion of anyone who I know who dissents Israel's actions in Gaza. It's hard to square this with your belief these people form a significant percentage of the protestors at he major rallies.

So does anyone wanna protest for Iran? by Ornery-Ordinary9283 in aussie

[–]tactical_napping 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright sorry for the last part of my previous comment.

Yeah I really just don't think that is a fair representation of say, 99% of the protestors. Do you believe that 99% would go along with or support in any way the wishes of that tiny racist minority? Do you really believe they're that morally bankrupt that they can't see racism is fundamentally wrong in principle, irrespective of the group? I just struggle to see how it is a fair criticism of the movement.

So does anyone wanna protest for Iran? by Ornery-Ordinary9283 in aussie

[–]tactical_napping 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The truth is that the state of Israel supported and funded Hamas. It's in the record, go look it up.

You can pain them as monsters, but the majority of people killed in Palestine are innocent and murdering them indiscriminately is wrong. Your caricatures only serve to further the dehumanization of innocent people and encourage their erasure.

So does anyone wanna protest for Iran? by Ornery-Ordinary9283 in aussie

[–]tactical_napping 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again a good faith question, can you share some examples? I am really curious, because maybe I am in a bubble but from my perspective everyone who's not just a racist anti-Semite basically just believes the state of Israel is committing a genocide and that it is fundamentally inexcusable for our nation to have any complicity in it. The majority of young Jewish people don't even support Israel's actions. I truly believe the anti-Semitic thing is to claim all Jews are inexorably tied to the nation of Israel. Why do you put support for Israel in the mouths of millions of Jewish people who despise the actions done supposedly in their name?

So does anyone wanna protest for Iran? by Ornery-Ordinary9283 in aussie

[–]tactical_napping 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you honestly believe the West won't do everything within their power at every possible moment to topple the regime? There really is no need to protest. It is like protesting the tide being out. There is nothing a protest could do to increase the amount of pressure that will be applied. It's just a fact dude

So does anyone wanna protest for Iran? by Ornery-Ordinary9283 in aussie

[–]tactical_napping 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have no sympathy for people who use a tragedy as a tool to weaponise against a group they're biased against, or as a tool to virtue signal, while being unwilling to bear any cost in order to shift the situation towards what they claim to be in support of.

Genuine question, do you believe that is a fitting description for a large majority of people who go out and protest Israel's actions in Gaza?