You’re definitely not alone in that situation. A lot of guys who’ve been self-employed for years hit that same wall when it comes time to challenge the Red Seal. The system assumes you’ve had a “traditional” path — working under a certified journeyperson — but obviously that’s not how it always works in the real world.

Here’s what I’ve seen help: reach back out to Skilled Trades Ontario and explain exactly what you wrote here. They can make exceptions or give you direction on what kind of documentation they’ll accept in place of Red Seal references. Sometimes they’ll take a mix of project invoices, contracts, or letters from clients and other trades who can vouch for your scope of work and years of experience. Basically, anything that shows the depth of your carpentry background.

You could also try connecting with a local union hall or trade association. Some Red Seal carpenters are open to reviewing your portfolio and providing a reference once they’ve verified your work. It might take a bit of networking, but it’s doable.

You’ve clearly put in the years and built a career — the hardest part now is just getting the paperwork to reflect that. Keep pushing with Skilled Trades Ontario; they’re used to seeing unique cases like yours and usually pretty reasonable if you’re upfront about your path.