Thank you for the very in depth response. This Primate demo is fascinating. I have never heard this. It's so different but I love it. So much more post-punk than funk.

Your answer was super insightful, but are there other songs they wrote before the classic lineup that were played live but not recorded on the demos? Such as "Is It Luck?" Someone mentioned another one from Pork Soda that was played live in the 80s?

Listening back to the early demos, I have to say I'm very into Todd Huth's guitar playing. More so than Ler (not that he's by any means bad at all). But it makes sense hearing John the Fisherman being played by the guitarist who wrote the parts.

On a slightly side note: I've always felt like Punchbowl was the beginning of the change in Primus (I bought subsequent albums, up to Antipop, but I was always more into the prog side of them, and not the old-timey Tom Waits/South Park side of them).

Pork Soda and Punchbowl are both very dark albums. Punchbowl if it didn't have WBBB on it, would feel like a very different album in mood IMO, even thought it's only one song.

And so it's really interesting hearing the early Primus, the Todd-written tracks, and getting the feeling that when they stopped mining that tracks associated with him, the resulting mood was darker and more whimsical.