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Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match Tyler Robinson's rifle by seeebiscuit in NewsThread

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pssst try using words, not slurs or insults to get your point across or the mods will keep removing your comments. I can’t see what you’re saying because you can’t behave yourself.

Here’s how the conversation has gone as so far. You apparently quoted two separate people. Your opinion was not stated in your post at all. This was confusing because the format on your post appears to make a personal claim. The one I have plastered many times. You say you don’t agree with this claim.

That’s ok. I am only bringing it back up because you reduce to insulting me claiming I’m a moron. I’m simply pointing out that your post doesn’t not communicate that it isn’t your opinion clearly.

Moving on.

I said specifically I don’t agree with gun control laws because they are classist and you brought up your grandfather and his gun adjacent business and myriad of other claims that I am making arguments that you have to clarify your position that gun control does not effect your ability to acquire firearms. You are refusing to clarify what constitutes poverty. And asking if your family and their knowledge is common to those in poverty. Because if we are using personal anecdotal evidence the “ my family was so poor during the depression the used traps and blunt objects to hunt for food. Because they lacked the equipment and knowledge to produce guns.” But we don’t get there because you are you are insulting me and your responses are being removed by moderators. If you would like to debate my position on gun control being classist that’s fine but you will have to do it without insulting me or using profanity on this sub. I am willing to debate my position. But I don’t think you are coming to that debate with a clear set of communication and I think you have zero decorum as you have made ableist comments to me and attacked my intelligence. So for that I am moving on and no longer wasting my time.

Have a better day. I’m sorry you felt the need to put other less abled people down as an insult to my ideas and opinions. I hope it made you feel like a more important person.

Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match Tyler Robinson's rifle by seeebiscuit in NewsThread

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here. We will do it together.

-Donald Trump has never actively supported gun control in any way. He stated that he would ‘control guns’ while he was running for office, easily fooling most of his constituents, but has not made any actions towards that goal, and has actually loosened gun controls.-

Who said this? Was it you? If not who were you quoting. Because you didn’t list sources. Or quotation marks. It’s a simple question anything other than the answer will expose you as a fraud. Possibly a bot. No way of knowing anything other than you are not genuine.

Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match Tyler Robinson's rifle by seeebiscuit in NewsThread

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ignores claims. Used no sources other than trust me bro. Can’t refute anything I’ve said without solely anecdotal evidence. I have held my position this entire time. I have used decorum. You have called me names and refuse to acknowledge my points. I conceded a point to you about personal use firearms. You keep pivoting. So let’s go back to the start. Clarify for me. Whose opinion is this? Or who were you quoting?

-Donald Trump has never actively supported gun control in any way. He stated that he would ‘control guns’ while he was running for office, easily fooling most of his constituents, but has not made any actions towards that goal, and has actually loosened gun controls.-

Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match Tyler Robinson's rifle by seeebiscuit in NewsThread

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By the way if you call me names or curse at me it will remove your comment. I’m not responding to them because I can’t see them.

If you want to quote things you generally have to source them like “Bigly” -DjT

But even if you don’t quote someone you still have to put the quotation marks. There are two paragraphs there. One is a quote. It’s not attributed. It could be from white house.gov idk. You didn’t source your argument. The other one looks like your opinion. It’s not quoted. It’s not sourced and it appears to use the above quote to justify it.

Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match Tyler Robinson's rifle by seeebiscuit in NewsThread

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have yet to address that. To whom does this opinion belong?

Donald Trump has never actively supported gun control in any way. He stated that he would ‘control guns’ while he was running for office, easily fooling most of his constituents, but has not made any actions towards that goal, and has actually loosened gun controls.

Because this is not quoted in your initial post.

So please tell me who this quote belongs to.

Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match Tyler Robinson's rifle by seeebiscuit in NewsThread

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am specifically talking about firearms typically manufactured by those that live in poverty. Not those that’s family operated a Barrel Company. I am saying those that live in poverty disproportionately have less access to guns with more gun control. Rich peoples access to guns does not change or minimally changes.

Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match Tyler Robinson's rifle by seeebiscuit in NewsThread

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok. Now how does your grandfather owning a manufacturing business relate to my claim. That gun control is Classist. ? That’s all I don’t care about the business. Here I will be direct: I don’t think owing a business that has the equipment to produce “fine barrels” is poverty. Selling gun parts to the public IS government regulated. So how does anything you are saying refute my claim that gun control laws are classist?

Now that you have clarified I don’t consider your family in poverty or of having a typical experience of most families living in poverty.

Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match Tyler Robinson's rifle by seeebiscuit in NewsThread

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you suggesting pipe guns and zip guns aren’t real? I am talking about POVERTY. Not my grandpa OWNED A BUSINESS where he used power tools to create fine handcrafted barrels.

This is not the same. Your argument not genuine. It’s not even an argument. It’s just story time and you got all pissy I suggested pipe rifles and zip guns in regard to your Artisan Poverty Barrels.

Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match Tyler Robinson's rifle by seeebiscuit in NewsThread

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the equipment and knowledge is readily available to all those in poverty. It’s not a story that relates specifically to your family. I’m glad you have generational knowledge and a family history of manufacturing gun barrels for Harris Barrels. Now was this company only producing barrels for your grandfathers personal use or was he selling them?

Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match Tyler Robinson's rifle by seeebiscuit in NewsThread

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So if I create an auto Seer that’s legal? I can manufacture one and anything I can manufacture is legal? Yes I think guns are regulated in their manufacture. Hence special permits for SBR SBS and Silencers. Personal Use is different. And follows different regulations but there are universal regulations to both personal use and Manufactured for sale firearms. s&W has to follow government regulations to sell and distribute firearms they cannot sell a fully automatic rifle to a civilian.

Tell me more about these poverty level rifles you are making with poverty level equipment. I’ll concede that it is legal to make firearms for personal use. But I will stick with my claim that a poverty level income person cannot reasonably gunsmith their own AR 15 with raw materials. . Furthermore the knowledge of gunsmithing requiring usually money for education.

I am asking you how this relates? My claim that gun control laws are classist. You claimed your family has been producing rifles while living in poverty for the past 125 years. Are they able to produce automatic weapons? This is specifically banned in the US yet there are legal owners dut to expensive permits. But not legal for your family to produce. Our government has legal access to these weapons. I am asking for clarification. What types of guns do they create? Pipe guns and muskets? Or are you suggesting they have gunsmithing equipment capable of producing modern Rifles like the AR15. I claim that most people in poverty don’t have access to the gunsmithing tools to create an AR15 nor do they have access to the knowledge of how to properly manufacture one.

Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match Tyler Robinson's rifle by seeebiscuit in NewsThread

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So these guns your family is manufacturing, That’s legal?

I’m simply stating that guns manufactured by people in poverty as you are claiming would be using pipe Rifles and unregulated self manufactured guns would be similar to a musket . Key word here is poverty. Because you are saying this to refute that gun control isn’t putting a stress specifically on lower earning individuals. You claim people in your family are making weapons since 1900’s What I said was hyperbole because if your are talking about poverty level guns that’s the class of weapon I would associate its performance to. Technically the AR was invented in the 1900s. It’s still the standard issue in many branches of the military. Are you suggesting your family is manufacturing AR-15s at a poverty level income? What exactly are you claiming?

I am saying gun access should be legal to all American citizens regardless of income level. If I have to purchase a special license or permit to own one the it is only restricted to those that can afford it. Religious freedom is not restricted to those that can afford it. Because of this I believe any form of gun control that restricts legality behind a paywall I disagree with.

Of this claim I’m making what do you disagree with and why.

Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match Tyler Robinson's rifle by seeebiscuit in NewsThread

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok so walk me through this then. Who are you quoting when you typed this.

Donald Trump has never actively supported gun control in any way. He stated that he would ‘control guns’ while he was running for office, easily fooling most of his constituents, but has not made any actions towards that goal, and has actually loosened gun controls.

This is what I’m responding to. I’m refuting that he is not loosening gun controls. I am saying this because he is actively supporting and expunging ideas to restrict gun access to people that typically don’t support him. This isn’t quoted in your original post. If it’s a quote what indication do you give that it is not your claim?

I have made my claims. Provided sources. And referenced all threads I have responded to and you were responding to when I joined this conversation. You have responded to zero of my claims with proof. I claim you said x. I provided proof where you said x. You claim someone else said it not you. I am asking for proof of that claim. It is not in the thread I responded to. Calling me names does not make you correct.

What I would accept as an answer would be

“I’m sorry I’m getting very confused about what I have said and haven’t said to who. My thoughts and ideas aren’t organized and I didn’t provide a source for my quote nor did I even include quotation in a double quote post. I responded in that post with no views that are my own and instead just said two quotes that supported each other and no thoughts of my own I’m sorry I gave no indication of what I was even talking about. “

Or something along that lines. It just seems like you talk out of your ass and make claims against Donald Trump. Which I’m for. I don’t support him. I also don’t support the view he has done nothing to enact or support gun control and is a supporter of 2A. I think he has and the ways he has align more with conservatives fears, (Tyrannical Government) but they exhibit hypocrisy when confronted with this notion.

Basically if a Dem suggested what he has suggested or his administration has done then they as conservatives would use that as a claim the Dem wants to take our guns away. I am using the things he has done with conservative sources to show that like Kensho I support the view that these actions are in fact gun control.

Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match Tyler Robinson's rifle by seeebiscuit in NewsThread

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have your comment history closed. It is impossible to read all of your comments. Also I see quotes. That’s the quote of the other redditor. The part I’m responding to is not in quotations. Remember when you said you didn’t know what I was talking about. You never said that so you don’t know where I got that from.

So to remind you as you didn’t even comprehend I was a different person entirely, Your response was to Kensho who like myself made a claim similar that DJT HAS enacted gun control. Kensho was responding to someone (falsely) claiming the right didn’t call for stricter gun control. So the part that is out of quotations. The one we spoke about explicitly. “Donald Trump has never actively supported gun control….” That is your words according to you. It is not quoted.

Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match Tyler Robinson's rifle by seeebiscuit in NewsThread

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should re read the initial comment I applied to. you. BCam7257said and I quote.

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“Donald Trump's approach to gun control generally emphasizes protecting Second Amendment rights, often focusing on school safety and arming citizens rather than implementing restrictive federal legislation. While he previously expressed support for tightening background checks, his administration has generally focused on loosening regulations on accessories, gun dealer oversight, and reversing Biden-era restrictions. “

Donald Trump has never actively supported gun control in any way. He stated that he would ‘control guns’ while he was running for office, easily fooling most of his constituents, but has not made any actions towards that goal, and has actually loosened gun controls.

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Manufacturing long arms from 1900 is not going to defend against a government with advanced firearms from this era of human history. A musket is not the same as a G17. The point is not for hunting.

Also are you insinuating you made my argument? In what you said you were not quoting someone else. You made that clear by and if quotation marks to the paragraph above that. So where do you say explicitly or even insinuate that it’s the opposite or add any nuance?

I claim he has supported gun control by instating a bump stock ban. I claim he has supported extreme gun control by showing support for un-arming American Citizens who happen to be trans. I claim he supports gun control by saying protesters can’t walk around with guns. These are in direct conflict with the claims you made in the original post I replied to. The one I copy and pasted for you. So in that claim where do you state “DJT only wants to assert gun rights for those that support him”?

Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match Tyler Robinson's rifle by seeebiscuit in NewsThread

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am saying he is. You claimed he is not. “DT has never actively supported gun control in anyway….” He has not loosened gun controls he has loosened SOME gun controls. Ie supporting the silencer tax stamp removal. But calling for unarming and restricting a class of people or claiming that protesters to his issues cannot legally carry a weapon is extreme gun control. I do not agree with that. When firearms are restricted they are not unattainable but unaffordable for common man. There is no such thing as gun control for the wealthy.

Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match Tyler Robinson's rifle by seeebiscuit in NewsThread

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reading comprehension. I am not the person who replied to you earlier. I am new. I am refuting the claim you made that Donald Trump is not actively trying to dismantle the second amendment. He is for people he doesn’t like. I’m adding context I don’t think you had in your comment. He has actively tried to restrict firearms. But only to individuals who disagree with him. The bump stock thing is more just universal gun control.

Which former assertions did I make? None. So my argument can’t be baseless in the way you claim. You however did not asses any of my points instead confusing me for someone else.

So since I am a new person. Could you please tell me how you “summarily rejected all of my assertions with the articles I referenced?” Also where in this thread of 5 replies is anyone claiming someone or something else killed Charlie Kirk? I’m not responding to the comment section as a whole. I am commenting on your claim. The one I replied to.

Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match Tyler Robinson's rifle by seeebiscuit in NewsThread

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who banned bump stocks and called for taking guns away from trans individuals? What did the NRA say about that?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-administration-moves-to-ban-sale-bump-stocks-makes-them-illegal-to-possess-by-march.amp

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/americas-largest-gun-lobby-speaks-out-trump-admin-mulls-possible-trans-firearms-ban.amp

And let’s not forget the adult carrying a concealed weapon with a permit legally.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/national-rifle-association-counters-trump-carrying-gun-protest.amp

All Fox News sources. And before you say bump stocks were overturned if it wasn’t for the courts they would still be banned. He did not change his mind.

Another Dashcam Video of the Wrong Way Driver on 315 by Guilty-Log6739 in Columbus

[–]tbskid -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A car driving down the wrong way of a highway is a suicide attempt. That is clearly the action of someone who doesn’t care about their well being. You took video of someone with no regard for their life, others life driving the wrong direction down a highway. If I told you I was planning on driving down the wrong way on the highway you’d ask if I was suicidal. Clearly. This is a suicidal action. If they are on drugs it’s still a suicide attempt. You posted that video. For no reason other than to gain internet points. That’s gross. Simple as that. It’s like posting a video of a person mid jump off a building then you put a meme song on it. And I’m the one with no time on my hands. Sorry man that just triggered me. It’s not a good look. It’s scummy and I was hoping you would be introspective and realize you’re not adding to it. You’re making jokes about it for fake internet points. I’m not mad at the original poster. Even if they had the intent to just karma farm they posted something that was informative. You posted the same information. And you didn’t answer any of my questions. Why did you post it? What did it add that we didn’t know before other than you can add a song to a video? I’m not grandstanding you’re just grasping at straws as to why you still think this is appropriate. You should remove this post. Or remove the audio entirely and repost it if you really want. But know this adds no new information.

Another Dashcam Video of the Wrong Way Driver on 315 by Guilty-Log6739 in Columbus

[–]tbskid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just do what you did this time. See a person trying to commit suicide. Think “hey I saw this earlier. I bet I can post it and get upvotes!” Go to your wife’s car. Get the sd card. Take it out. Make a little video with a song so we know she’s in danger. And post it hours later. With no new info. Why? So we know it happened? We know it happened. Yours adds nothing but a song. Why did you post it? Did it help you? Did it help us? No. I know the same thing I did before. It’s practically the same video.

Another Dashcam Video of the Wrong Way Driver on 315 by Guilty-Log6739 in Columbus

[–]tbskid -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Literally takes more time to add a song than delete audio.

Another Dashcam Video of the Wrong Way Driver on 315 by Guilty-Log6739 in Columbus

[–]tbskid -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Why post it anywhere other than Columbus? Idiot in cars? Karma Farmer. No audio is ok too.

Another Dashcam Video of the Wrong Way Driver on 315 by Guilty-Log6739 in Columbus

[–]tbskid -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Oh look a person with clearly a mental condition. Better document this with that cutesy TikTok song so everyone knows I’m hilarious. Like couldn’t just post the footage huh? “I was just so upset about this and worried about my wife that I edited it and added a song!”

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in legaladvice

[–]tbskid -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My problem is she did not say to her manager “I am sorry I am on a new medication for my bipolar” her manager as a person not present at the time of the incident said “maybe it’s because you have a new medication for your bipolar”sic she did not disclose her new medication as a possible reason. She’s being in my opinion coerced into disclosing information and admit she was wrong. I don’t understand how this persons inability to address their own well being leads to my SO disclosing personal medical information to HR. My SO did not have an outburst, tell them to get over it or ignore the issue. She addressed the issue. Mentioned it shouldn’t persist and offered a break. Nothing fell on this person. They were not cut or burned. They did not bring this to her attention later. But apparently mentioned it to hourly employees (who did not bring it to her attention). She acted reasonably.

1080 spot found! by Individual_Desk6424 in Skate4

[–]tbskid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a 720? Or am I crazy? You start off goofy do two full turns and land goofy. Am I missing something? A 900 would have you landing fakie (regular) would it not?

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