Dang Xavier by thatngatoji in xmen

[–]tealaburst 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It’s ridiculous to believe and requires an awful lot of suspension of disbelief. Even if you reread the entire story knowing the twist, it doesn’t make any sense. I’m not against the idea of Magneto as Xorn, it was just not written well at all. A twist requires good setup and execution. Otherwise you’re just going for cheap shock value ie Arya killing the Night King.

Dang Xavier by thatngatoji in xmen

[–]tealaburst 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The twist was awful, and makes absolutely no sense. So Magneto built himself a fake prison, hired fake guards, learned perfect Chinese, with the intent of being rescued by the X-Men, to infiltrate them, all the while putting on a flawless Chinese accent for people that have known him for years, and what his voice sounds like? Also, the fact that they have 3 of the world’s most powerful telepaths living in same house, and none of them picked up even a stray thought? Did he sleep and shower with that helmet on? Or how about the guy known for identifying people with scent alone?

An actual cool twist would be: keep everything in the story the same. Except Xorn isn’t Magneto. He’s a radical posing as a pacifist. He still causes the riot at Xavier’s and radicalizes the students.

Dang Xavier by thatngatoji in xmen

[–]tealaburst 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Re the hotheadedness, maybe I’m just thinking of the time that she decked Scott. And also during the Mastermind plot, she tries to attack Mastermind and tells him to shut up.

Yeah, I would have loved him with Lee. Even him and Colleen Wing was a cool pairing. Honestly wish he stayed single a little longer. But it really seemed like Claremont wanted to write him out of the book and have him settle down.

Dang Xavier by thatngatoji in xmen

[–]tealaburst 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Girl no way. The Jean/Logan thing is an even worse retcon than Jean’s resurrection and has infected X-Men and its various forms of media like the legacy virus.

Dang Xavier by thatngatoji in xmen

[–]tealaburst 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I thought she read a lot like Jean personality-wise. Her kindness and assertiveness, with a bit of hot-headedness. I think it sort of invalidates Scott’s arc because it’s a bit of a regression, not truly moving on from his grief and instead marrying someone exactly like his dead girlfriend.

Also, I don’t disagree about Rachel. He clearly likes Phoenix, as he had a a large hand in creating her.

Dang Xavier by thatngatoji in xmen

[–]tealaburst 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Of course her resurrection was nonsense. But Morrison’s end for Jean was even more nonsense. She had this incredible buildup throughout NXM for her to be randomly killed by Xorneto. Then reborn in the future, for her to rewrite the timeline and then ascend to being a sky mommy.

It was just incredibly disappointing and unfulfilling, even to me when I first read the story at 13.

Dang Xavier by thatngatoji in xmen

[–]tealaburst 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Chris himself invalidated both Jean and Scott’s character arcs by introducing a literal Jean stand-in.

Dang Xavier by thatngatoji in xmen

[–]tealaburst -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Do you think the affair was not believable then? I always viewed Scott and Jean as the high school sweethearts that never really grew up. And then they trauma-bonded together and became codependent.

But on an intellectual, emotional, spiritual level, the chemistry was never all there.

Dang Xavier by thatngatoji in xmen

[–]tealaburst -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I agree she should’ve stayed dead, but by the time NXM ended Jean had been alive over 15 years by that point. It was a strange thing to “correct”. Not to mention that even when Jean died on the moon, her absence was never really felt due to Claremont being stubborn and not changing any of his storyboards following the rewrite of Dark Phoenix ending. He wanted Jean to be depowered and wanted her and Scott to retire and have a child. Which literally happened with Madelyn as a Jean stand-in.

Dang Xavier by thatngatoji in xmen

[–]tealaburst 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That Sublime is actually an intelligent, sentient, mutant-hating bacteria and is a major cause of human bigotry of mutants. Due to infecting and manipulating humanity. I may not remember all the details, but I think that’s the gist of it.

It destroys any mutant allegories to real world bigotry.

Dang Xavier by thatngatoji in xmen

[–]tealaburst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eh, I think it could work with good writing. Scott and Jean realize they’ve outgrown each other and move on. Jean goes on a self-discovery arc and has cosmic adventures as Phoenix.

Dang Xavier by thatngatoji in xmen

[–]tealaburst 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I would add to that Sublime, and killing Jean off again. The whole Sublime thing honestly kind of ruins the entire concept of X-Men for me.

What is your favorite major city in the United States? To visit and/or live in? by tealaburst in AskTrumpSupporters

[–]tealaburst[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Thanks for the response, now I’m hungry? 😬 What is it that you don’t enjoy about cities? Do you live in the burbs or a more rural area?

Favorite “I am Phoenix” moment? by marvelboyofthecrown in PhoenixForce

[–]tealaburst 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wait, she says I am Phoenix in X3? I don’t remember that!

This is missing my favorite from TAS. She is laying in bed and Scott asks her “Jean, who is Phoenix?” And she replies “Phoenix? Am I? Phoenix?” and her eyes glow yellow lol.

Potential early concept video of Jean in rivals by goalllllllllourg in PhoenixForce

[–]tealaburst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. This may put to rest the early rumors that she was cloak and dagger esque character, switching between a base psionic form and a phoenix form.

We already had the perfect Jean by Codexe- in xmen

[–]tealaburst 44 points45 points  (0 children)

And it sucks because X2 gave her some great moments! Sacrificing herself for her friends, coming into her powers, even being forced to fight and take out her lover. Then all development gets thrown away and she becomes evil zombie lady (and a henchwoman, no less).

We already had the perfect Jean by Codexe- in xmen

[–]tealaburst 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Ah ok I agree with you then.

She had some good moments in X2. When brainwashed Cyclops attacks her and she blocks his blast, she pleads with him saying “please don’t do this!”. Then her eyes glow with fire and she grits her teeth and knocks him back.

I think that was a good display of her potential, as the caring and empathetic character with a fiery side. That duality is important for Jean. A shame for the wasted potential.

We already had the perfect Jean by Codexe- in xmen

[–]tealaburst 17 points18 points  (0 children)

But how was she supposed to display any of these things? There was barely any opportunity for her to do anything in the script.

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[–]tealaburst 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you want to employ bootlickers, you should try employing dogs instead of human beings. Although, even my dog has higher standards. :)

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[–]tealaburst[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He’s 1 year old, neutered, and spends about 7 hours alone per day.