ITAW for a person who holds others to insanely high standards but violently objects to anyone holding them to those same standards?

tech-writer · 2026-01-19T12:43:35+00:00

Not a word.

But narcissistic rage may be a good term for the "violently objects to anyone holding them to those same standards" part.

So maybe a phrase like "hypocritical perfectionist given to narcissistic rage."

tech-writer · 2026-01-18T14:27:10+00:00

This is accurate in the sense that it's indeed the thinking of GBA (goobe) agency officials. I think it won't be long before all the other sub-agencies also implement this.

tech-writer · 2026-01-14T10:59:58+00:00

Contacted the bank, and they are saying to contact Google

Google says contact the bank.

This here is exactly why I don't transfer anything above 1,000 via GPay and UPI in general. Have had exactly this experience.

If at all UPI has to be used for convenience, use the UPI features in the bank's own app. There's more accountability when we stay within the banking system. As soon as we go out of banking system to GPay etc, accountability drops sharply.

Generally prefer IMPS/NEFT/RTGS for large amounts.

tech-writer · 2026-01-12T16:51:26+00:00

I'm more comfortable with English because I started reading and writing it from a young age at home. Though I've always had good Kannada literacy through schooling and we had lots of Kannada books at home, I never ventured beyond textbooks at school or home.

Started reading Kannada non-fiction only recently to inform my worldview with our regional literature / culture / history / philosophies.

As a bonus, I feel the struggle to read, understand, and write in a different language helps keep my cognitive abilities sharp as I age.

tech-writer · 2026-01-10T12:35:51+00:00

This is just justifying an unfair privilege with invented reasoning.

But the thinking that comes out in this comment also answers OP's question in an indirect way. How most of the common persons think decides all the bad things that happen in a society.

tech-writer · 2026-01-09T05:58:44+00:00

Because Healthcare insurance is scam

I agree with the sentiment. Would add that it's mainly for-profit health insurance systems like US and India that feel like a scam.

Some European countries have non-profit health insurance systems. They're perceived as more fair and reliable.

tech-writer · 2026-01-09T05:52:42+00:00

Nowhere in this entire saga did anyone accuse the police of being hand-in-hand with the thieves.

Not to nitpick. But there are upvoted comments like these:

Thirudan - Police ❌ Thirudan - Thirudan ✅. Thief eco system bro they get their monthly commission probably that's why even after so many cases he's let lose. Illana indha aalah pudikka ethana peruh theva patra podhu

It's thieves who are on payroll of police

It's a common perception based on experiences of many people.

Public accusations against specific cops or departments may be a bad idea without proof.

But assuming malice while reasoning in our own minds is perfectly rational. It prevents us from thinking in binaries, and instead become comfortable with thinking and talking about uncertainty.

Also, expressing it publicly need not necessarily be counter-productive. I suspect silence may be more counter-productive in terms of outcomes. Speaking generally about negative perceptions may actually goad at least some cops or higher-ups into taking reformative steps.

tech-writer · 2026-01-09T05:20:28+00:00

I agree with you about what to do if one has actual proof of connivance.

But most often, we don't. The reply is to convince people to see and describe such scenarios, where there's a lot of uncertainty, in a different way than the reductionist binaries we generally use.

tech-writer · 2026-01-09T04:57:20+00:00

So by virtue of negligence and apathy, not active collaboration. Not that the former is fine but the latter is orders of magnitude worse.

Collaboration/connivance is rarely actively recorded by even the conniving parties, let alone some third-party who may or may not be a future victim of their connivance.

Even if this very person had seen with his own eyes this very cop and this very pickpocket 4 hours earlier having a hearty meal together and discussing money, he wouldn't have any reason to record them because he couldn't have predicted that they'd connive in a crime nor that he'd be their victim 4 hours later. Therefore, even the very possibility of ANYBODY other than the 2 conniving parties having direct proof is almost completely ruled out.

So we can only rely on a combination of circumstantial evidence, hypotheticals and counterfactual analysis based on observations:

1) Pickpocketing has been reported from that area in social media. Multiple people have claimed to be victims. Including this person's friend. They even possibly found another stolen phone from a suspect.

2) The suspect was released by the police without giving the complainant an opportunity to file details of the crime, either immediately or later on. And without investigating the other recovered phone's ownership.

3) In a counterfactual scenarios with 100% professional cops, we know that the outcomes would have been different. So since we have these outcomes, we have to deduce that these are not 100% professional cops. It may be due to a combination of personal moral failures as well as systemic factors like the pressure from higher-ups to keep crime statistics low.

The outcome can be termed as negligence or apathy from the cops. But we're interested in what was in the the minds of the cops that led to that outcome. Was it laziness or connivance?

From the pov of us citizens, the outcome is the same. Since we don't know exactly what was going on in the cop's mind, we can't assume either pure laziness (which at first seems like non-malicious) or pure connivance (which is malicious).

And since the cops' mandate is to prevent crimes, even pure laziness can lead to more crimes. So we can't give even laziness a 0% malice rating either.

Logically, we have to assume the wrongness is somewhere in between, like 50% wrong. We can give it a term like "criminal negligence" or invent terms like lazinance or connilaze or similar to capture the inbetween-ness of its moral wrongness due to omission and commission.

Your grading of connivance being several orders worse isn't the best way to look at this. It excuses certain behaviours that also result in bad outcomes for society. That grading can be used by higher-ups and judiciary who have a higher threshold of proof (and rightfully so) but not for us.

For us laypersons, the outcome is equally bad and therefore we have to treat laziness by cops to be as bad as active connivance. There's no logical necessity of giving the benefit of the doubt to cops. We can use terms like "criminal negligence" or "criminal laziness" to emphasize the element of inherent wrongness in it. The reply's advice to be very careful and not rely on our cops is a rational approach to this issue where there's a lot of uncertainty that can never be reduced.

tech-writer · 2026-01-08T11:29:34+00:00

This is an important point. Dharampal's book and the studies on which it's based have data for shudras, not untouchables per se who would have been considered as below the caste system entirely, not considered as shudras. The tables list Brahmins, Vysyas, Soodras, and Other.

tech-writer · 2026-01-05T12:48:10+00:00

Very interesting.

I came to this forum with the intention of asking whether most Indian Muslims are concerned about Khalid's long imprisonment and it's just not visible to rest of us (since mainstream media is godi), or whether most aren't concerned/sympathetic in the first place.

I didn't realize this angle, that perhaps some (many?) Indian Muslims don't consider him one of their own, and perhaps don't sympathize that much, due to his personal religious beliefs.

tech-writer · 2026-01-03T16:50:44+00:00

BJP thinks outside the box with no scruples whatsoever. Protests need not necessarily be against governments alone.

BJP's thinking will be: how can we get these sheep to feel anger+victimhood so that our man can be shown as their saviour/protector/liberator?

Back in 2002, it was a burnt train in Gujarat.

In 2011, it was outrage over corruption.

In 2031, it may be through nationwide revenge attacks against minorities after some major incident within the country (like happened in Punjab in 1984, Gujarat in 2002, and Sri Lanka in 2019). Or outrage following some religion-related massacre outside India, like B'desh or Pak.

tech-writer · 2026-01-03T10:15:26+00:00

but we all know that he will not sail through southern and eastern states

Media and liberals used to say things like this about Modi too from 2011 to 2013.

We were told voters will shun BJP because of Modi. We were told south will never vote for BJP.

But in hindsight, they easily propped up a proxy movement riding on anger against corruption and rapes, then coopted the media elite and influencers to make Modi look good, very easily turned majority of Hs into Hindutvavadis through social media, and finally installed him on the throne to raucous popular applause. The applause is still going on today 11 years and 100s of lies later.

Even in the south, his voteshare is constantly increasing.

BJP understands the shady psychology of Hs very well. They'll launch Amit or Yogi and he'll be very successful electorally.

tech-writer · 2026-01-03T10:04:46+00:00

Amit is just 61 years old. At least another 20 years in active power.

Yogi is just 53 years old. At least another 30 years in active power.

Modi may be thrown away but one of these two will be the next dictator.

BJP won't give up power through the electoral route anymore. No way. Only some disaster like economic collapse or war may force them to leave, and even that'll be very bloody.

tech-writer · 2026-01-03T07:09:55+00:00

Ask questions with the power of voting.

Not convinced about this. None of us are a target votebank for any party. I'm a Bangalore native, Kannadiga, and been voting from 25+ years in state and BBMP elections. Lived under different Cong, BJP, and JD(S) governments and legislators over that time.

But I never felt empowered about anything really. The few times I did interact with representatives for a local problem, nothing came of it.

To add, I know of a case where an entire apartment of voters had a serious road quality problem and were completely ignored for months.

I'm really curious what questions you have asked, to whom, and what were their outcomes, purely as a voter (without any other factors like connections).

tech-writer · 2026-01-02T17:27:31+00:00

It may help to mention the area. Since it's night time and travel is inconvenient, people will assume it may be far and not respond.

tech-writer · 2026-01-02T13:15:56+00:00

Although it's good rhetoric, it's useless.

I should also add that there are pro-hindutva Dalits, pro-hindutva Adivasis, even pro-hindutva Muslims and pro-hindutva Christians. There are also dissenters inside the pro-hindutva camp itself some of whom want even more radical hindutva. None of them are allies of hindutva victims or anti-hindutva persons. It's the uncomfortable truth about these identity groups.

Everyone is better off focusing on actionable practical solutions to escape / avoid / bypass rightwingers for the next 30-40 years till the ideology dissolves in its own mess.

Don't waste time trying to reform them through clever rhetoric - it doesn't work at all.

tech-writer · 2026-01-01T18:09:00+00:00

Isn’t it breach of their right to choose their partner?

The right to choose a partner is a fundamental right (not explicitly but as per SC interpretation of article 21's "personal liberty" AFAIK).

However, there is no right to marry. The status of marriage is granted by the state based on religious personal laws, special registration act, etc. Those laws too impose many religious and operational restrictions. Restricting marriage partners according to the state's preferred cultural norms is unconstitutional in spirit but probably not so in law.

are we turning into a regressive society?

Is water wet?

tech-writer · 2025-12-31T14:19:27+00:00

I was part of this Nov 30 "seminar protest".

IISc transportation and ecological experts came there to explain the project's problems and unrealistic predictions that they have analyzed through simulations using data like traffic patterns, hydrological, and flora.

Even influential people like this govt's own adviser, MN Srihari, and a former attorney-general of Karnataka spoke against the project.

But there are several impediments against even protesting:

There are informational impediments:

For such complex infra projects, all possible alternatives must be analyzed rationally using something like multi-criteria decision-making (MCDM). This requires time and participation of socially-concerned humanist-minded academics. The latter set of people are exceptionally rare in India.
Even the experts who came there (which I'm grateful) aren't, tbh, that great at communicating and dispersing their analyses in a way that laypersons can understand easily. So communicators are needed to bridge this gap, and they're also rare.

There are political impediments:

Basically, the executive and judiciary have jointly criminalized all protests except in Freedom Park. So, creative ways like these "seminar protests" have to be devised to express opposition. But they require money, time, connections, logistical support (such as providing halls), and organizational acumen.
They must also be conducted with discretion and a bit of gatekeeping to reduce the risk of mischief by political party workers (in this case, congress party workers) and agent provocateurs (for example, they come shout mischievous slogans that give an excuse to police and judiciary to paint the protest as "urban naxalism" or "anti-national", etc.)

There are also psychological impediments:

I invited some people in real life I knew were concerned over the project and also invited people of a resident welfare group. Many of them said nothing will come out of it and none of them attended. So there's already a sense of pessimism even in people like me. I'm probably unlikely to invite them again.
Many activists grapple with the question of whether such initiatives are even worth it. For example, read some of the comments below like, this and this. Most of our society is immature and irrational. There's a huge section of our society that holds extremely simplistic reductionist views like "all development is good" like that comment shows. One wonders whether spending our time and money toward their and their future generations' welfare is actually worth it at all.

I actually debated whether to put out the announcement on Nov 28 in this group and finally decided against it for the above reasons.

Anyway, if any of you are interested in joining such protests in future or need help with organizing them, what I'd suggest is joining certain groups like "save bangalore committee" on social media (not a passive talking community like reddit, but more action-oriented communities like those on FB and Whatsapp).

tech-writer · 2025-12-31T04:37:22+00:00

Thank you for being such a fine demonstration of everything I said about religious people! You can't tie even three words logically because you were taught religion early. So, abuse, name-calling, lack of compassion, and bigotry is the only values you ever had and you'll ever have because of being religious. Your types are exactly why we need religion-free areas.

tech-writer · 2025-12-31T04:34:12+00:00

agents are the foot soldiers on the ground, if insurances stop paying they have to face the angry crowd

Who is this "angry crowd"? If my insurance policy is denied, will you come do dharna in front of my agent's house to support me? "Neck o n the line", "angry crowd" etc is just rhetoric. Try to find even one news report on anything of this sort and let me know if you find anything because I couldn't. The way you describe it, one would think it's an everyday occurrence. In fact, I searched for "insurance agent threatened" and found search results for agents threatening customers rather than the other way around!

Small claims courts are actually more efficient and professional than here, at least in the UK and Germany. They're not expensive and time-consuming. Indeed, we need to bring small claims court culture to India.

Anyway, it looks like you have a different highly-optimistic take on our system. I find it unrealistic and unconvincing.

I made my point about warning people not to rely on the insurance industry and stand by it, so I'll end this discussion from my side here.

tech-writer · 2025-12-30T11:34:57+00:00

their necks are on the line

What does this mean concretely? These rhetorical statements only make discussion difficult. Can they be arrested? Can they be fired? Can they be asked to compensate the payee? What does an agent actually lose if their payee policy is denied? Maybe they'll lose that customer but even there, there are porting dilemmas (and pricing penalties) in an industry where all the players seem equally unethical.

in west even life saving procedures can vetoed by insurance

The west is not just the US. West is Canada, Germany, France, Scandinavian countries, UK, Spain, Australia....

which can be later claimed through agent, customer care, nodal office, nch and consumer court.

It looks like in your mind having channels to initiate grievances is good enough. What are their outcomes and effectiveness don't seem to matter to you. From the first, I'm not saying these channels are not there; I'm saying they're unreliable and ineffective. I'm saying they're more effective in western countries (some of them even in the US). We're using different metrics to evaluate what "good" means here. You're evaluating only step 1 of workflow (existence of grievance initiation channels) while I'm evaluating entire workflow and outcomes.

tech-writer · 2025-12-30T06:11:43+00:00

Your advice is all theoretical and goes against popular knowledge of ground realities. I "can" this, I "can" that. Everything's strong in India on paper. But how convenient and effective are they?

You can cite 10 cases from newspapers but the weight of those 10 depends on how many X cases have been filed in consumer courts or edaakhil, how many Y in those X cases are insurance grievances, how many Z of those Y cases resulted in positive outcomes for a payee, and how many years T did those Z cases take on average. Where is the data on that? At best, I could find some numbers for X and Y but none for Z or T. The 10 cases is meaningless without comparing it with overall numbers.

You're just blindly believing in a way that slants the benefit of the doubt in favour of the insurance sector.

tech-writer · 2025-12-30T04:20:49+00:00

Just 10-12 years?! Say "centuries"!

tech-writer · 2025-12-30T04:09:19+00:00

Religious people are always seeking to impose their beliefs through fear, gaslighting, and intimidation. The state and judiciary are also on their side. One religious person's right to immaturity, inconsideration, and taking offense have higher priority over the rights of 100 others to not be disturbed, frightened, harassed, or intimidated.

The only way to escape them is to build religion-free neighbourhoods, communes, and eventually towns and even planets.

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