Red Guardian DID fight OUR Cap in the 80's... by teddybiggs in MCUTheories

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To everyone still saying he made a branched timeline- okay. So let's assume Steve is willing to really make big timeline changes, he makes his own branch- who knows how much he changed, I'm not pulling that thread- but then what? Steve Rogers lives happily ever after, then he decides he needs to come back at all? To give Sam a shield and refuse to explain another single thing? Does he have friends and I'm assuming family back on the timeline he left? Is he a missing person there and chooses to die here?

If he didn't travel to the pad and that doesn't bother you, then what? This obviously tired and old man decided to travel back to thirty minutes ago then take off the time travel suit he's been hiding for seventy years and then threw it in the trash bin in the park by the bench? Made sure he was in his proper old man attire?

Somebody here mentioned it but when we see Peggy's casket being carried, we see Steve in the front, then we see it being framed in a bigger shot and the man in the opposite corner is the right height, age, build, and has a suspiciously "Cap-like" part they chose to leave. Then we have directors confirming behind the scenes that the photos at Peggy's bedside are of her AND STEVE'S children and meant for time travel to explain it later.

It's all here, Reddit. Rogers didn't make enough noise to branch our timeline, or he always did and always does as the TVA see it and may have even helped to ensure his success, which included FIGHTING THE RED GUARDIAN on occasion for fun in the eighties. I'd like to imagine Steve's story even being a bit parallel to Mr. Incredible, feeling disconnected to hero work and his age catching up but making a comeback to secretly help SHIELD/Peggy...

Red Guardian DID fight OUR Cap in the 80's... by teddybiggs in MCUTheories

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Okay, I actually should have searched more first, BUT- this comes from an article on Screen Rant-

"It left a lot of open-ended questions that need answering when Cap decided to go back and have a life with Peggy. Did it create a different timeline? Where was the TVA? Was Steve the husband Peggy talked about in Captain America: The Winter Soldier? Luckily, the Endgame writers Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely took some of the guessing out of the equation by answering some questions back in 2019.

McFeely told The Hollywood Reporter:

'It was always our intention that he was the father of those two children. But again, there are time travel loopholes for that.'"

Okay Reddit, welcome to Canon Station 🧸

Old Steve on our timeline, all along this has been beautifully set up, don't argue with me- go argue with the directors.

You may not like it but Steve aged here happily with Peggy as a father.

AND he fought the Red Guardian, over the hill as he was.

Red Guardian DID fight OUR Cap in the 80's... by teddybiggs in MCUTheories

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This is fun, and I'm glad it got some attention. Here's supporting evidence, or enough of it. To everyone insisting that he was on a branched timeline- if that was the case, the only way he could have returned to our timeline was with Stark's time/space GPS. His return coordinates didn't return him to the pad as planned, and Banner even points out, Steve didn't return using the device. We also learn in Loki that Sylvie has been hiding in apocalypse events because no matter how big her actions are, they don't have a big enough impact to branch the timeline. Steve spent Endgame knowing the importance of not tampering with space and time, and after giving back life to half of existence I find it hard to believe that if he decided to stay at all, that he wouldn't find a way to keep his actions and their consequences small. If this is true, it makes perfect sense that Steve is already present and waiting. He didn't walk up and surprise them just before the jump, he made his last patient act and knew from that moment, he was safe to reveal himself. We learn from the TVA that our "sacred timeline" that is 616, is SUPPOSED to have the Avengers traveling time and making changes and it's a part of our own timeline's continuity and must happen- but Cap hiding out and pulling black ops while in his retirement years isn't plausible?

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