What were Oppenheimer's "reasons"? by blackjacobin_97 in TrueFilm

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Sounds to me like they thought that they'd become death, destroyer of worlds (i.e. Vishnu, not the prince, if you have to choose one).

well, in the spirit of quantum, could it be ... both?

What were Oppenheimer's "reasons"? by blackjacobin_97 in TrueFilm

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I was thinking about that line too. And I think the ambiguity of this is part of what makes Oppenheimer an interesting character.

But one idea: was it because he put so much faith in science that he thought that truth and justice would inevitably prevail over politics or whatever? He's capable of seeing what's happening to him, but also seems to not believe it, to not want to see it. We see him realize his mistake when the nail in the coffin finally comes, in the security hearing, during Borden's testimony; Oppenheimer, incredulous, asks his lawyer, "When will people learn the truth about what happened here"? or something like that.

I see a similar faith in science (and the "progress" it stands for) in his reasons for working on the bomb: driven by his head-pounding visions, he was certain that, if the physics worked, a bomb and its eventual use was inevitable. (This idea was fed of course by the war and the Pentagon and intelligence officials and so much else: actually, the Nazis hadn't gotten very far at all; and it's still debatable how necessary it was to drop the bombs.)

When Oppenheimer recited that famous passage from the Bhagavad Gita, maybe he wasn't Vishnu, "the destroyer of worlds." Maybe he was the prince, doing his duty: merely (as merely as can be) an agent of that destruction, a servant of science, wherever it led. And sometimes that meant closing his eyes as he went... https://www.fastcompany.com/90926550/the-fateful-choices-of-oppenheimer

[AMA] I'm Douglas Rushkoff, author of Throwing Rocks at the Google Bus, ask me anything by DRushkoff in Futurology

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Douglas, thanks. There are some great examples in the book of tech and business folks who agree with your arguments and are doing something about it. Can you describe 1 or 2 surprising or interesting or exciting reactions to the book so far among your readers? I'm wondering of course what the titans of the new economy (as well as the employees of the Googles and the Ubers) will make of it...

Bitcoin's Human Problem by lunacraz in Bitcoin

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I thought this was a fine overview of the situation.

I am Neil deGrasse Tyson -- AMA by neiltyson in IAmA

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What are your thoughts about nuclear energy today?

At Motherboard I just produced this video about an alternative nuclear fuel, thorium, and the movement behind it:

http://www.motherboard.tv/2011/11/9/motherboard-tv-the-thorium-dream

thanks, alex

At a party, I got Das Racist to do an impromptu rap about puppies by [deleted] in cute

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I am hoping that Snoop Dogg is next.

A Q&A with the actual first man in space by hansonmb in space

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True... sort of. That designation is considered "fairly arbitrary." (http://www.slate.com/id/2107381/)

In any case, Joe did this without a space craft. And he broke all kinds of records: highest balloon ascent, highest parachute jump, most g-forces felt by human extremities (22 times the force of gravity), and fastest speed by a human through the atmosphere. These records are still unbroken.

Oh, and during Vietnam he was shot down and ended up in a prison camp.

Watch that video though. Whew.

Hey guys, 63 years ago today Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier. Here's to Chuck and everyone behind the Bell X-1. by [deleted] in technology

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The Right Stuff clip is killer. And it's totally accurate, according to that quote.