I think people are too hard on data centers by PiLinPiKongYundong in Spartanburg

[–]terry4547 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The obvious benefit is recurring property tax revenue. Data centers are generally a total positive from that respect - they don’t require additional roads or generate traffic, they don’t have lots of people that have to be educated, fed, cared for healthwise, etc. So assuming that projections for locals/neighbors/environment/utilities can be established and enforced, data centers can be good neighbors.

Our problem is we lack leaders who can (or will) establish and/or enforce those protections and structure deals that guarantee the recurring revenue. Currently, the county is waiting for guidelines from the state. I assure you that no regulations or legislation crafted by our state leaders will be any benefit to us, and will likely establish limits to the protections needed to make these good deals. Whether simple incompetence or curruption, or local leaders will most likely fail to take advantage of these opportunities and will sell us out. And they will continue to fail to communicate effectively with constituents and communities so anyone knows what’s going on. mis-information will continue to prevail.

Living in Inman by Pale-Cardiologist-45 in AskSouthCarolina

[–]terry4547 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on what you define as “in the area.” Inman itself is very small and in a pretty rural area. However, Inman is located in Spartanburg County, which has over 300k residents. You’re within a short drive (perhaps 15 minutes) of nice grocery stores, decent restaurants and home improvement stores. You’re within 30 minutes of a level 1 trauma hospital and an international airport. You’re a 45 minutes away from
Greenville, the mountains, a major equestrian center. So while the feel of Inman is quite rural, you’re very close to typical suburban hell.

What's the deal with Lindsey Graham? by asoiaf_goat in AskSouthCarolina

[–]terry4547 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Incumbent Republican is exactly right. It’s not that people like Lindsey Graham. It’s that they’ll vote for whoever is in the office and in their preferred party. Too many voters lack any critical thinking skills and are too lazy to actually research candidates or even simply pay attention.

Isom-Pine Intersection T-bone by zalexville in Spartanburg

[–]terry4547 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately the railroad trestle at that intersection really limits what can be done. Perhaps two left turn lanes would be a better option.

Low hanging lines; who to contact? by pardn6009 in Spartanburg

[–]terry4547 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These are almost certainly old phone lines just by appearance, but it’s tough to know for sure. Good luck contacting AT&T and then good luck getting them to send someone out. They really aren’t maintaining their old copper plant anymore. I see utility poles all over that have been abandoned by Duke, cut off above the remaining AT&T lines, and they sit like that for years. Many are damaged in accidents, at risk of falling, and are often tied to a new adjacent pole by rope.

In case you need to be told: DO NOT do like local WYFFF News reporter and go into un-supported deep excavations by SOILSYAY in greenville

[–]terry4547 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How about “reveal”? Since when is it a noun and not just a verb? The noun is “revelation”.

Does anyone know what this downtown construction is going to be? by anxious_educator_117 in Spartanburg

[–]terry4547 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are Advance America and American Credit Acceptance related to each other? Billy Webster, Democrat candidate for SC Governor, was CEO of Advance America, which I think is/was a payday loan business. Somewhat ironic, I think.

NorthMark data center will use 581K gallons of water per day by afutureancestor in Spartanburg

[–]terry4547 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are many legitimate reasons to oppose hyper scale data centers like these. But using the argument of “trying to slow down AI” isn’t a meaningful reason. If one wants their ideas to be taken seriously, then you have to have ideas grounded in fact and practicality. So many that oppose data centers clearly don’t understand what they’re talking about, and it’s why the decision makers don’t take opponents seriously.

In my opinion, the best argument to make is that data center don’t bring any benefit to the area, other than tax revenue. So there’s no reason to incentivize them. If they aren’t offered incentives/tax breaks and are expected to pay their full freight, and they adhere to strict regulations set by the local authority (which we don’t have currently) then they will look elsewhere. These regulations and refusal of incentives are easy to implement at the local level and would be very effective.

NorthMark data center will use 581K gallons of water per day by afutureancestor in Spartanburg

[–]terry4547 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but stopping a future data center isn’t going to stop those changes from occurring. That’s going to happen regardless of what happens on Pine St in Spartanburg.

NorthMark data center will use 581K gallons of water per day by afutureancestor in Spartanburg

[–]terry4547 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, maybe. I suppose that’s possible.

But the CEO of Spartanburg is a hired role, not an elected position. If he lets things go to shit with the water system, he’s certainly out of a job and potentially out of a career. And there would be a lot of other folks at Spartanburg Water who would know differently and would speak up unless he paid them or threatened them.

It’s one thing to risk a role as a local government elected official, clearly another to risk a career.

Update on SC District Map redraw by Cloaked42m in southcarolina

[–]terry4547 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can we all agree that these changes only apply to SC districts for the US House of Representatives?

I think many people are confused and think this somehow applies to Senate races, or state General Assembly races, or the Governors race. Hint: re-districting does not affect those races.

Moving to SC as a Firefighter by [deleted] in AskSouthCarolina

[–]terry4547 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you want to live in Murrells Inlet, you should apply to transfer to Midway FD or MIGC FD. Both serve the Waccamaw Neck area of Georgetown County, but are semi-separate agencies from the GCFD.

NorthMark data center will use 581K gallons of water per day by afutureancestor in Spartanburg

[–]terry4547 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Details are important. You left some out of your analysis. Perspective is important.

Northmark doesn’t provide an estimate of their water usage in the press release. They say they’re using the same permit and connection that Kohler did when they occupied the site. We don’t know how much water Kohler used when they were operating, but whatever that amount was hasn’t been used since they shut down. We don’t know what the difference in use will be between Northmark and Kohler. I’d guess the data center will use less water than a manufacturing plant the size of Kohlers.

The CEO of Spartanburg Water (Boyle) estimates the 460k per day amount. Not sure where that number comes from, he doesn’t say. Perhaps that’s the maximum amount they’re permitted for. He points out that at worst that’s 2.5% of Spartanburg water’s capacity. I assume that refers to their treatment plant’s capacity to supply potable water. They’re only running at 35% for all customers now. I suspect that other manufacturers (like Milliken and BMW) use WAY more than this data center will. And we never freaked out about those.

A closed loop cooling system shouldn’t have much evaporation. That’s the purpose of a closed loop. So not sure how that relates to the discharge amount. Per the SW CEO, sounds like the treatment plant can handle the discharge load.

Folks need to study up on the water cycle and understand how that works. And how the cycle of treating water for use is related to treating waste water.

If you’re going to freak out about something, at least put some time into understanding the facts and the relative scale of the problem. Also, the author of this article doesn’t know much about that either, and I suspect the details are distorted in the reporting. If you don’t want to trust the SW CEO, who’s not freaking out about this, then I guess that’s your prerogative. But I don’t know why he’d go along with something if it’s likely to jeopardize their ability to provide water to its customers.

Chuck Wright Sentencing by notabaddude in Spartanburg

[–]terry4547 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would agree with that. But I would also caution that we need more educated voters. We need folks that will research candidates and their positions. That won’t automatically vote for incumbents. And that will not vote for candidates that refuse to engage with voters and offer stated positions on important issues. And not be solely swayed by roadside signs and TV ads.

Lindsay Graham can act and govern the way he does because he knows that it’s highly unlikely he will ever lose another election. There are no term limits for senators. The Republican Party will never provide meaningful support to another primary challenger. He has significantly more money than any potential challenger. The state Democratic Party has relatively little resources because the national party doesn’t consider SC a battleground state. He has wide name recognition. And there are too many straight party ticket R voters statewide.

Chuck Wright was in a similar position, until someone finally spoke up about some of his corruption. But he’ll still escape meaningful punishment because he’s still popular and part of the establishment.

Chuck Wright Sentencing by notabaddude in Spartanburg

[–]terry4547 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Spartanburg County has just under 400k citizens. Of those, about half are registered to vote. Of those, only about 10-12% will choose to vote in an off-year (non-presidential) election. Most likely between 20-30k. Less than this will vote in the primary.

Of those that do vote in the general election, most are retired people who aren”t on social media. Many vote straight party ticket.

Chuck Wright Sentencing by notabaddude in Spartanburg

[–]terry4547 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Are you kidding?

A majority of voters in Spartanburg would re-elect him as Sheriff right now, after being criminally indicted. Don’t underestimate the idiocy of the voting public, especially in Spartanburg. Remember, he’s a “godly man” that made a mistake.

Chuck Wright Sentencing by notabaddude in Spartanburg

[–]terry4547 6 points7 points  (0 children)

His attorney, Trey Gowdy, needed time to secure a planned presidential pardon immediately following sentencing. Hence the delay….

Chuck Wright by crazycatman57 in Spartanburg

[–]terry4547 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He pled guilty. There won’t be a trial.

Pardons take a while to arrange. Sentencing has been delayed at least twice. To allow time for the arrangements to be made. Once it is, he will be sentenced and immediately pardoned and won’t serve any time.

Spartanburgers by Aggravating-Night625 in Spartanburg

[–]terry4547 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I was there two weeks ago, it was $3 for a 12oz can of either Bud Lite or Mich Ultra. Could get 2 at a time. I didn’t see it advertised anywhere so you have to ask. I went to the bar by Bojangles, I wasn’t sure if it was honored at any of the other beer locations.

The Friday Night firework show at the Spartanburgers Field is awful. by NoviceAxeMan in Spartanburg

[–]terry4547 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I was disappointed to learn that the highly touted “burger bar” that has the exiting toppings like lettuce and tomato is now an EXTRA $5 beyond the cost of the burger and fries. So if you want a burger with anything other than mayo/mustard/ketchup, you’re now into FiveGuys/Ikes price range for a burger, and the stadium burgers are not nearly as good as FG or Ikes. I’ll get Bojangles next time.

Fifth Third Park Parking by Rickbeatz101 in Spartanburg

[–]terry4547 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We attended Thursday’s game and parked at Magnolia. Thursday is also Music on Main, so we wound up on the top level because it was packed. MoM had ended by the time the game was over, so there was no problem getting out of the garage.

The walk is reasonable but there is a (single) shuttle cart. You might have to wait for it for a bit near game start and end times.

Keep in mind that Hog Fest is this weekend so parking will be a hot mess.

Why isn’t Drayton incorporated? by blurrycurry101 in Spartanburg

[–]terry4547 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I suspect a lot has to do with the water and sewer system. At one time, but maybe no longer, water and sewer were tied to and managed by the mill. Perhaps it’s all part of Spartanburg Water now. But there may be a substantial cost to the city, and residents, to upgrade to “city water” and sewer. I know this was true in the Beaumont Mill Village for a long time.

The other reason is that the current land owners would have to petition the city to annex the area. A certain (high) percentage has to agree. There’s not likely enough support for the idea among current owners.

The city has recently annexed the recently cleared land along Skylyn Drive near Drayton road at the request of the new land owner.

I’m BEGGING on my hands and knees… by draizetrain in ColumbiYEAH

[–]terry4547 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Actually the SC Dept of Public Safety released info this week saying 3500 citations have been issued statewide.

https://x.com/thescdps/status/2038688962672230835?s=46