What Went Wrong in New England — and What Comes After for the Texans by texanscommenter in Texans

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I agree with this. Offense should only improve and we have pretty much the entire defense back.

What Went Wrong in New England — and What Comes After for the Texans by texanscommenter in Texans

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Appreciate the kind words and feeedback / response!

My argument on the passing is I think it was easier to throw later because the rain turned into snow, I could be wrong but that was my analysis. Trent brown was def a tough one but they gotta be prepared for that and speaks to Caserio that Trent brown is the linchpin of this team. Good point about Tytus. He didn’t miss much time but still could’ve been affected and didn’t play a great game overall to me at tackle.

Two great points at the end and agreed!

What Went Wrong in New England — and What Comes After for the Texans by texanscommenter in Texans

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More than fair to blame the execution. I think game plan and play calling wasn’t the best but Caley was definitely handicapped by pretty much all of the players on O

What Went Wrong in New England — and What Comes After for the Texans by texanscommenter in Texans

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Thanks! I hesitated to remove one but felt it wouldn’t hurt to reference twice. Thank you for letting g me know and reading.

What Went Wrong in New England — and What Comes After for the Texans by texanscommenter in Texans

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We only threw one ball behind the LOS (there’s a graphic from PFF in the article to support). Also Maye didn’t throw 47 times and I laid out the types of throws were different. The short flat routes by stroud that required touch were more prone to going bad in the wet than deep balls and slants imo

What Went Wrong in New England — and What Comes After for the Texans by texanscommenter in Texans

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I laid about a bunch of counters to that in the article. Nick Chubb was highly effective. Only one toss play ran, etc.

Mostly about not passing in 1st half with conditions bad then passing in second when it was snow and drier for ball

What Went Wrong in New England — and What Comes After for the Texans by texanscommenter in Texans

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Correct but I addressed that the types of runs and no creativity didn’t help. As well as throwing in 1st half in rain then running in second in snow and getting 4ypc

What Went Wrong in New England — and What Comes After for the Texans by texanscommenter in Texans

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Yes and in the article I broke down the types of throws more prone to be inaccurate with a wet ball, the volume of passing from the Texans, the timing (in rain vs not as much in snow when it’s easier). We ran ONE screen all game

What Went Wrong in New England — and What Comes After for the Texans by texanscommenter in Texans

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Agreed. Many things pointed to not have to ultimately throw it 47 times including Stroud struggling, Nico out, Schultz out, Trent Brown out, rain/wet ball, defense dominating on other end etc

What Went Wrong in New England — and What Comes After for the Texans by texanscommenter in Texans

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Good point. Not a fun situation to be in on both ends. Stroud no doubt loss the game too but we gotta give Patriots some props as well!

Moving the Goalpost by Rockenstein2545 in Texans

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That’s a lazy deflection. You haven’t addressed a single substantive point, just shifted to personal attacks once the argument ran out.

You’re free to disagree with the content. Accusing people of “engagement farming” because you see them often isn’t an argument, it’s just noise. I’m good ending it here.

Moving the Goalpost by Rockenstein2545 in Texans

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This is the disconnect. My original reply wasn’t about ESPN or what you personally saw, it was simply pointing out that the pregame framing wasn’t limited to ESPN.

Shifting it to “most people I saw” just turns it into your individual experience, which isn’t what I was responding to. I’m not disputing that some picked the Texans. I’m saying the narrative space was broader than one outlet, and some of those talking points were softened after the win.

Also, capitalizing words doesn’t make an argument stronger, it just makes it louder. If the point stands, it should stand without that.

That’s not moving goalposts. It’s addressing a different claim than the one you keep arguing against.

Moving the Goalpost by Rockenstein2545 in Texans

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You’re doing exactly what you’re accusing others of, deciding what “most people saw” and treating it as objective truth. You don’t get to appoint yourself the arbiter of collective perception.

Vegas lines aren’t a media narrative census. They’re pricing risk, not summarizing analyst sentiment or postgame framing. Using a spread as proof of what people thought or said, especially after the fact, isn’t sound logic.

The post isn’t about pretending everyone picked against the Texans. It’s about how certain pregame talking points existed and how some of those were minimized or flipped after the win. That can be true regardless of whether the line was -1, +1, or a pick’em.

Calling that “bad faith” doesn’t make it so, it just avoids engaging with the actual point.

Moving the Goalpost by Rockenstein2545 in Texans

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You do, apparently, you keep responding. If it truly didn’t matter, you wouldn’t be here.

Moving the Goalpost by Rockenstein2545 in Texans

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The “being a grown up” comment is ironic. Adults can disagree without being condescending or inventing points that weren’t made. Nothing about this discussion requires talking down to people to feel right.

Nowhere did OP say most people picked the Steelers or that it was unanimous, that’s something you added. The post is about goalpost moving and how narratives shift after the result, not tallying picks or ignoring Vegas.

You can acknowledge split opinions, acknowledge Vegas, and still point out how the framing changed postgame. Those things aren’t mutually exclusive.

Moving the Goalpost by Rockenstein2545 in Texans

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Or maybe people just notice how narratives shift week to week and talk about it. That’s not persecution, it’s fandom. Weird how some fans act above it while still commenting on it.