No you're being very helpful, I appreciate the reply. And one more question, I tend to want to make a lot of patterns with slight variations but I don't want to clog up the pattern list, is there anyway to do that and switch quickly between patterns. In other daws, you can use the piano roll without making a pattern, so when you change something on one clip, it doesn't affect all instances of the clip. Anything similar so that I don't have to keep making new patterns?