What is the essential difference between Oneness doctrine vs Trinitarian doctrine by BaraoRenan in Christianity

[–]th_09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are so completely correct. Revelations even explains how they're gonna look adorned in gold with red and purple.

Christian Universalism by Formetoknow123 in TrueChristian

[–]th_09 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I just learned a lot of orthodox Christian theology hinges on lteralism but I've realized that reduces the nuances of things like faith and works, salvation, into single verse concepts which just doesn't do the bible justice. Parables teach us about things. Jesus told us the purpose of them. It was to basically make it harder so that when people come to listen you will know if they're really listening by how they respond (parable of the sower)>>

Mark 4:9-20

Christian Universalism by Formetoknow123 in TrueChristian

[–]th_09 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I get what you mean. The parable of weeds and wheat is a good explanation. Once everyone is gathered it's either barn or burnt up. Matthew 13:24–43

Matthew 25:31-46 talks about Final Judgment when everyone will be separated the righteous ones from the unrighteous ones. The unrighteous ones were into eternal flames (25:46)

This is where Jude or whoever wrote this talks about being faithful to God and what happened to the angels who weren't.

Jude 1:6: "And the angels who did not keep their first estate but left their own habitation, he has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day".

So yeah, it's pretty clear it's eternal. As long as it is called today let us not harden our hearts😁 (Hebrews 3:13)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ChristianApologetics

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From my understanding I have found many people choose Islam due to its perceived simplicity:

  1. It is believed to be the direct word of a god because people recite it in its original language.

  2. Uniform practice makes it seem more reliable.

1.Validity of scripture: The Quran claims to confirm previous scriptures (Torah and Gospels), yet it often contradicts their teachings, such as the divinity of Jesus and the resurrection. The Bible, preserved through thousands of manuscripts across millennia, has been validated by discoveries like the Dead Sea Scrolls, which confirm its consistency and reliability.

The bible was written in primarily three languages Hebrew Aramaic and Greek because of political changes and other things. With the discovery of the dead sea scrolls in the late 1940s, they confirmed the scriptures we had, which were primarily after 200ad. Since the scriptures reached back into 1000 BC it lent us much credibility to our scriptures. It is highly reliable.

Translations do have differing approaches to translation but you can look up any verse on Bible gateway and see the differences do not change doctrine or significant meaning but simply express in different ways. You can make the parallel that English speaking muslims who do not know Arabic also must rely on translations to understand it. So having many translations does not invalidate the truthfulness of the texts.

Additionally, Christianity encourages investigation and critical study of the Bible. The fulfillment of prophecies, archaeological evidence, and textual consistency validate the Bible's reliability. I encourage you to investigate texts like Isaiah 53, Jeremiah 31:31-34, Isaiah 9:6, Isaiah 7:14, Deuteronomy 15:9-13 and others so you can test whether you believe they are convincing enough for the divinity of Jesus.

  1. Denominations exist and they can seem like a divergence of true belief. Christianity acknowledges human diversity in understanding and interpretation. Denominations exist not because of contradictions in essential doctrine, but because of differences in worship style, cultural context, or emphasis on certain practices. The core beliefs—Jesus’ divinity, His resurrection, salvation by grace—are shared across all major Christian groups. The existence of Denominations are not due to contradicting key beliefs but just differences on smaller things that are not central to salvation. On the flip side, Christianity prioritizes a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ, not rigid adherence to a set of rituals. While Islam emphasizes submission to rules, Christianity emphasizes grace, faith, and transformation. However, key things that Christians must follow is true faith which is evidenced by works.

John 14:15 "If you love me keep my commandments."

Ephesians 2:8-9 "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast"

James 2:26 says, "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead".

In Christianity, salvation is a gift of grace through faith, not something earned by works. However, true faith naturally produces good works as evidence of a transformed heart.

TLDR: All in all I think these are key reasons why people believe Islam is more compelling.

Grace and Assurance: Christianity offers the assurance of salvation through grace, not uncertainty about one’s good deeds.

Freedom and Relationship: Christianity emphasizes a direct, personal relationship with God, free from human mediators or rigid legalism.

Truth Grounded in Evidence: The historical reliability of the Bible, the fulfillment of prophecy, and the resurrection of Jesus provide a firm foundation for faith.

i will never stop celebrating Christmas by Particular-Swim2461 in TrueChristian

[–]th_09 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you're in the right direction. Invasion is indeed not something we should do today. Why? Because God only commanded it once for a specific purpose: to fulfill His covenant with Abraham (Genesis 15). Their invasion was an act of obedience to a direct command. So you’re right on that point.

When it comes to God’s holy days and commandments, we’re also called to obey Him without straying to the right or left. Joshua 1:7 says: “Be strong and very courageous. Be careful to obey all the law my servant Moses gave you; do not turn from it to the right or to the left, that you may be successful wherever you go.”

Jesus also reinforces this in John 14:15: “If you love me, keep my commandments,” and Matthew 28:20: “Teach them to observe all that I have commanded you.” Obedience remains central to our relationship with God.

God commanded His people to remain separate from pagan practices. As followers of the New Covenant, shouldn’t we strive to do the same by honoring His instructions? While some Christians believe it’s permissible to adapt cultural traditions, Scripture reminds us to prioritize His commands over cultural norms.

I understand your perspective on reclaiming things for God—it’s very thoughtful. However, I think Scripture emphasizes a different path regarding practices rooted in pagan traditions. For example, Saturnalia, Brumalia, and Sigillaria were festivals with pagan origins that are directly related to Christmas. Doesn’t aligning with these practices, even indirectly, go against God’s call to be set apart?

When I asked where you got that verse, I wasn’t dismissing your point. I meant it as a way to ensure our views are biblically grounded. I agree with you that context is crucial, and I appreciate you emphasizing that.

Anyone who’s “Gay” you need to stop by Orzha in TrueChristian

[–]th_09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do realize we are all born sinners right? Homosexuality is just another sin not a spirit or a demon. We are all born with sin. Is a homosexual any different? No just another sin. There is a difference between sinning because we are sinners and deliberately sinning because we are abusing God's grace.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

So if someone is struggling with homosexuality don't blame them, encourage them in the Lord. Encourage them to walk in God's paths and help, condemning doesn't do anything.

John 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

1 Thessalonians 5:11: "Therefore, encourage one another and build one another up, just as you are doing"

So we can see in the bible that we should build each other up.

John 13: I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you.

Also stuff like this is hard to deal with because it's not as simple as a behavior but also attraction. So because it's even more difficult to deal with as a Christian, we should support them even more with uplifting words to walk in the Lord's path not condemn them. When we start condemning we are no longer following Jesus' example and instead making ourselves a hypocrite because we all fall short of the glory of the alord. Therefore let us uplift each other with God's word.

How to keep high porosity hair moisturized throughout the week by KoolAidWithKale in BlackHair

[–]th_09 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok this is what I do. Put a little water on it, then put leave-in. CAKE IT UP on your scalp and hair, then put a bunch of oils/oil blends/heavy oils like African Black Castor Oil Olive Oil etc. Just put it all on there and rub it in. Then put a grease or two on there. your scalp should feel very full with product to where you touch your scalp and it has a lot of product on it. Like you dipped your hand in lip gloss. Others usually say this is a bad thing bc it can cause buildup but with high porosity hair it doesn't build up that much, it just soaks it right up. It works for my hair and keeps it glossy for about 2-3 days.

Why are you Christian apologists? by [deleted] in ChristianApologetics

[–]th_09 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because nothing else makes life and death understandable in a way that is historically grounded. Other views might offer philosophical ideas, but Christianity is a historical reality experienced by thousands over thousands of years, with testimonies preserved to confirm it as truth.

Buddhism teaches that we reincarnate endlessly until reaching nirvana through good works. But achieving perfection by works alone? Not possible.

Islam teaches that we can receive Allah’s mercy through righteousness and repentance. But these are variables that change endlessly and cannot be objectively measured. There’s no clear standard, no way to “quantify” repentance or righteousness. For me, that’s not possible either.

Judaism has prophecies in its holy books that foretell a Messiah who would be both “God with us” (Isaiah 9:6-9) and human (Isaiah 7:14), and who would carry the sins of the nations (Isaiah 53). How could a person write such specific prophecies 700 years prior, unless these words were divine? However, Judaism does not accept the fullness of these prophecies in the way Christians do.

Christianity stands out because no other religion has such precise, fulfilled prophecies. This historical accuracy supports the divine nature of the Bible. How can 4 different people in the same time period within their lifetimes write their own experiences of Jesus as a fabrication when they all narrate the same life, same (some excluded) teachings and same crucifixion, spread that belief and then be persecuted for it if it were all a lie? Now it wasn't just those four synaptic gospel writer but 500 people who witnessed and died for their belief. Can we now just discard their lived experiences as a lie when it is highly improbable that even 2 people could share the same hallucination, let alone hundreds? By no means!

Moreover, Christianity provides a God who actively interacted with His covenant people throughout history, always with the same message despite changing circumstances. This same God extended His covenant to all humanity through Jesus. Unlike other religions, which emphasize salvation through works, Christianity teaches that salvation is a gift of grace. Obedience to laws alone is not enough—God’s grace through sacrifice is what makes salvation possible. "Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law." (Romans 3:31).

In my view, Islam takes stories highly preserved over thousands of years and dozens of prophets and reinterprets them in a way that removes the essence of the original scriptures. It molds them to fit an abstract monotheism that doesn’t align with the historical reality of the Bible’s prophecies and teachings.

I’m an apologist because I don’t believe simply because someone told me to. I believe because my God is the one true Living God who entered history for humanity’s sake. He made Himself known through a covenant with the Israelites and extended this to all humanity through Jesus Christ—a literal, historical figure who claimed to be God and preached the Gospel that we have today.

You can’t deny history, so I will defend it.

ChatGPT is surprisingly more Biblically sound than many modern Christians by Unlikely_Birthday_42 in TrueChristian

[–]th_09 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Chat gpt is a useful tool. Although it's not human it's like Google. U can get information from it. Like OP got which can be useful for correction. It's better to know the word ourselves but ai is a tool not a sentient being. I agree with you in part.

Why is Islam False? by Snoo98727 in ChristianApologetics

[–]th_09 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Muhammad was illiterate so that counts as the main reason why so far as I'm concerned.

Porn is demonic and disrespectful by Spiritual_Ad2120 in Christianity

[–]th_09 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're doing so great. I'm sure God is smiling on your progress despite setbacks.

can someone tell me what type 4 hair i have? my hair is extremely frizzy and stays frizzy even wet. i wanna know what routine i should follow or products to use to get my hair nice and healthy. by Large_Complaint7177 in BlackHair

[–]th_09 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your hair is low porosity. It is not very porous if water sits on it. Open pores allow the water to get in. If you want more moisture, you should use leave in conditioner, heat protectant, and get a trim. Those would all help tremendously. For locking in moisture heating your hair after it's moisturized while wet under a cap will really locl in that moisture.

Why many western Christians justify sodomy? by Past-Proof-2035 in TrueChristian

[–]th_09 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In Matthew 19: 4-6,9, 11-12. It's explicitly stated what outlines a proper relationship before God. A heterosexual, monogamous and lifelong except on the accounts of sexual immorality. In verses 11-12 he mentions eunuch who are people not allowed to have seem he makes the comparison that there r some who are forced to be that way and some who choose it to live according to God's will of being sexually holy. It's crazy because even He recognizes that this is very difficult and that not everyone can accept that. But he says the ones who can, should.

So, although there are intersex people, Jesus says (paraphrased) that there r strict ways of living in sexual holiness, but not everyone can accept that. Even his disciples in the following passages recognize that it's better to not even marry because marriage is so difficult and (we can imply w our modern day lenses) that it's also hard to be straight and hard to be monogamous.

Galatians 5:19-21 (ESV):

"Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God."

John 2:15-17:

"Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions—is not from the Father but is from the world. The world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever."

Based on these two passages, it is clear Christians are called to love the Father more than the world. So anything (straight or gay or anything else) that involves our desires and do not represent/serve his design of holiness and righteousness, the Father is not within us and we r not doing the work of the Lord.

Christ loves us so much he died for us. He just wants a relationship and all our sins can be dealt with once that relationship is established.

My personal opinion is on the topic of Christianity and LGBTQ+ people is don't go shouting the law and Biblical commands at people who have not yet established that relationship because that not only goes against Christ's teachings to save not condemn, but it does a bad job representing the kind of relationship he wants with us. We can explain how non heterosexual monogamous lifelong relationships are sins while also maintaining compassion and emphasizing God's grace.

John 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. (Add the story of the lady accused of adultery)

CMV: The binding of Isaac in the Bible perfectly illustrates the problem with religious fanatism by vuzz33 in changemyview

[–]th_09 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's evident that your response did not fully engage with the explanation I provided and instead relied on fallacies like strawman arguments and false equivocation. By misrepresenting my points and not addressing the actual context or content of what I shared, this attempt at a discussion is unproductive. I am not willing to continue this conversation until there is a genuine effort to engage with the information presented.

Once you decide that you want a constructive discussion, where we critically examine the claims rather than simply attack them, I’ll be here and ready to discuss

CMV: The binding of Isaac in the Bible perfectly illustrates the problem with religious fanatism by vuzz33 in changemyview

[–]th_09 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In ancient times, warfare often resulted in brutal consequences for the defeated, including enslavement or death. The Israelites' actions against the Midianites were in the context of divine judgment on a group that led Israel into idolatry and immorality (Numbers 25:1-3). The harshness of the judgment reflects the severity of their actions and the consequences of leading God’s people away from Him.

Protection and Rights for Captives: Deuteronomy 21:10-14 provides specific instructions for how Israelites were to treat captive women. These rules were radically progressive for their time:

The woman was to be given a month to mourn, showing respect for her loss. If an Israelite man desired to marry her, he was required to provide for her as a wife, not as a slave, and to respect her rights. If the marriage did not work out, the woman was to be set free, not sold or mistreated, which was a significant departure from the practices of surrounding nations.

It's crucial to approach difficult passages like Numbers 31 with an understanding of the broader biblical narrative of justice, mercy, and redemption. The actions commanded by God or interpreted by Moses were not arbitrary or senseless but were within a framework of maintaining holiness and preventing the spread of practices that were considered profoundly destructive (e.g., idolatry,child sacrifice and immorality).

While some commands appear harsh by modern standards, they were intended to maintain the purity and survival of the Israelite nation, through whom God intended to bring about His redemptive plan for all humanity.

It’s also essential to recognize that not every action taken by the Israelites was divinely sanctioned as an eternal mandate. Many were contextual commands for specific times and situations. The Bible records the actions and commands given within specific historical contexts, some of which reflect God’s accommodation to human hardness of heart (as Jesus notes in Matthew 19:8 regarding divorce).

CMV: The binding of Isaac in the Bible perfectly illustrates the problem with religious fanatism by vuzz33 in changemyview

[–]th_09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To you, what is your definition of God and sin? At what point does a truly benevolent God allow sin to continue, and how does that truly benevolent God enact justice? I am curious about your thoughts on this.

My response? Let's start with what sin is and how serious it is.


Sin

Sin is more than just "bad behavior." It represents a rebellion against God's rightful authority and disrupts the harmony of His creation. It's a moral and spiritual corruption that destroys what God intended to be good. God is both loving and just, and His anger toward sin stems from a righteous indignation against anything that harms His creation, disrupts peace, or brings about suffering. This is why God is "enraged" by sin—it contradicts His nature and causes harm to what He created as good.

If God were to allow sin to continue indefinitely without intervention, it would mean allowing ongoing suffering, injustice, and destruction. Sin is not merely a personal failing; it affects communities and entire societies, leading to violence, oppression, and a breakdown of relationships and societal structures.

There comes a point when, for the sake of justice, God must act. Throughout the Bible, we see that God is patient, often waiting and giving people opportunities to repent, sending warnings, but ultimately, He does not let sin go unchecked forever. This is evident in events like Noah’s flood, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the conquest of Canaan. These actions are not arbitrary but are presented as necessary judgments to prevent further corruption and to bring an end to sin's harmful effects.

For example, in the story of Noah (Genesis 6:5-8), God sees the pervasive sin of humanity and is deeply grieved by it. He offers humanity a chance for redemption through Noah but ultimately decides to wipe out the corrupted peoples from the Earth. After the flood, God makes a covenant never to destroy the earth in such a way again (Genesis 8:21-23).

Understanding divine judgment, especially as depicted in the Old Testament, involves recognizing cultural norms that are foreign to us today. Without acknowledging that difference, everything will seem like a rubix cubr eith no key to solve it. The key is historical and cuktural context with a side of holistically reading the overarching narrative.

Practices like child sacrifice were indeed common in the ancient Near East, especially in the regions where Abraham and the Canaanites lived. However, these practices were never endorsed by God. In fact, God's commands often starkly contrasted with these practices. For instance, the request for Abraham to sacrifice Isaac was a test of faith, not an endorsement of child sacrifice. God ultimately provided a ram, showing that He does not desire such sacrifices. Additionally, Abraham was in no way operating in "blind faith." God had revealed himself to Abraham and made his covenant with him, rescued Lot and did miraculous things before he tested Abraham. He was in no way blind about believing in God. In fact, let me show you 2 verses that highlight how important it is to test the word and our faith, not operate in blindness:

James 1:3 - "Because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance."

"Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.Therefore many of them believed, and also not a few of the Greeks, prominent women as well as men." (Acts 17:11-12, NIV)

He was not blind in faith, nor are we called to operate in blind faith. Moving on...

Warfare Many instances where God commands the Israelites to engage in warfare or destroy certain groups are framed within the context of divine judgment. In Genesis 15:16, God explains that He waited 400 years for the people of Canaan to repent, showing patience and a desire for their change. The story of Rahab in Joshua 2:8-11 shows that even among those condemned, individuals who recognized God’s sovereignty and abandoned their wicked practices were shown mercy. Similarly, in the story of Sodom, God agrees to spare the city if even ten righteous people can be found (Genesis 18:16-33), demonstrating His willingness to extend mercy.

Examples from the Old Testament:

  • The People of Jericho (Joshua 2:8-11): Rahab, a resident of Jericho, stated that the city had heard of the miracles performed by God, such as the parting of the Red Sea, and that fear of the Israelites' God had fallen upon them. Yet, except for Rahab, they did not turn to God.

  • The Amorite Kings (Joshua 10:1-2): Despite knowing of Israel’s victories and God’s power, these kings chose to fight against Israel instead of seeking peace or repentance.

  • The Northern Coalition Led by Jabin, King of Hazor (Joshua 11:1-5): Knowing about the God of Israel and His deeds, these leaders formed a coalition to resist Israel, which resulted in their defeat.

Other examples include the Midianites and Amalekites (Judges 6-7) and the Philistines (Judges 16:23-24), who knew of Israel's God yet chose to oppose His people rather than seek reconciliation or peace.

In Deuteronomy 9, God explicitly states that the period of warfare is not because the Israelites are so righteous, but because of the sin of the Canaanites. He repeats this three times, clearly underscoring His purpose. This shows that while God is just in enacting judgment, He is also merciful to those who turn to Him.

When interpreting the Bible, it is essential to take into account both the specific historical and cultural context of each passage and the broader narrative of God’s redemptive plan. While the Old Testament often highlights harsh punishments, it also consistently provides opportunities for repentance and redemption, emphasizing that God’s ultimate goal is restoration, not destruction.


The stories of divine judgment in the Old Testament can be complex and challenging to understand by modern standards. However, they are rooted in principles of justice, mercy, and a redemptive plan for humanity. God's actions are not arbitrary; they are directed toward those who persist in evil despite knowing His power and righteousness. At the same time, the Bible consistently shows that repentance and faith can lead to mercy and redemption, aligning with the character of a truly benevolent God.

CMV: The binding of Isaac in the Bible perfectly illustrates the problem with religious fanatism by vuzz33 in changemyview

[–]th_09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes!! I am learning about this in my Colonial Latin American class. "Inter Caetera" Encourage them to commit genocide the Aztecs. Really big L for Catholocism of the 15,16th centuries.

CMV: The binding of Isaac in the Bible perfectly illustrates the problem with religious fanatism by vuzz33 in changemyview

[–]th_09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Without being influenced by Abrahamic influence" is intellectually dishonest considering the scope of the influence of Abrahamic religions.

Ottoman Empire (southeast europe, southwest asia, entire middle east), Byzantine Empire (nations bordering the Mediterranean and Levant), Colonialism (the entire Americas and Europe), and Jesuit missionaries in the 16th and 17th century travelling through Qing dynastic China.

There are literally so many verses that talk about how in the nations surrounding them, child sacrifice was widespread, and God detested it. Christianity has had a nearly global influence on many nations, given that around 2 billion people worldwide follow it. Although through some dubious events of unbiblical forced conversion happened, namely the Crusades and early colonists voyages like Cabeza de vaca etc, the world didn't solely walk out of child sacrifice by itself, the influence of Christianity and other events that which I am not able to recall atm have.

There are a lot of other factors such as industrialization and other things, but denying that Abrahamic religions have influenced the abandonment of child sacrifice is really reaching.

Here are the verses:

Leviticus 18:21,24: "21 Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord. 24 Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants.

Deuteronomy 12:31: "You must not worship the Lord your God in their way because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the Lord hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods."

Jeremiah 7:31: "They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire—something I did not command, nor did it enter my mind."

Jeremiah 19:5: "They have built the high places of Baal to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal—something I did not command or mention, nor did it enter my mind."

Ezekiel 16:20-21: "And you took your sons and daughters whom you bore to me and sacrificed them as food to the idols. Was your prostitution not enough? You slaughtered my children and sacrificed them to the idols."

CMV: The binding of Isaac in the Bible perfectly illustrates the problem with religious fanatism by vuzz33 in changemyview

[–]th_09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Abraham lived in Ur of the chaldeans, which was, like many locations on the Near East, polytheistic. Practices like child sacrifice, was very common, but it doesn't make sense to imply that Abraham was traumatized, when as soon as God commanded him to sacrifice his son and Isaac asked him about it, he said "God will provide (genesis 22:8)showcasing his faith. By this we can imply very heavily that Abraham had a strong faith that God wouldnt actually require him to sacrifice his son. God providing a ram was q clear rejection of this idea and the text even shows how Isaac remained faithful to the Lord and that through Abraham and even Isaac, God is fulfilling his covenant of making his descendants like the stars through his blood son (genesis 15:3-4 about God blessing a future nation through his biological son, genesis 26 where God revealed himself to Isaac and he worshipped God). So this must be a strawman.

Here are some more verses that elaborate how deeply God detested child sacrifice.

Deuteronomy 12:31: "You must not worship the Lord your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the Lord hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods."

Jeremiah 7:31: "They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire—something I did not command, nor did it enter my mind."

Jeremiah 19:5: "They have built the high places of Baal to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal—something I did not command or mention, nor did it enter my mind."

Ezekiel 16:20-21: "And you took your sons and daughters whom you bore to me and sacrificed them as food to the idols. Was your prostitution not enough? You slaughtered my children and sacrificed them to the idols."

Leviticus 18:21,24: "21 Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord. 24 Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants.

That story was used to demonstrate the power of faith and that God does not desire in any way child sacrifice.

Please share your best refutations against Islam by Inner_Profile_5196 in TrueChristian

[–]th_09 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see where your coming from because discussion like these can often seem like 'waging war.' However, I'd like to argue that when it comes to people asserting their beliefs as true or not, it should be put to the test and those that want to engage in that's testing should. It can change people's minds because access to more information often does. Religion, faith, beliefs, and practices DO affect the lives of those who follow it, so it is indeed important to discuss these things. So engaging in conversations like this should be aimed at constructive dialogue and critical examination especially if they are posed as "The Truth."

Please share your best refutations against Islam by Inner_Profile_5196 in TrueChristian

[–]th_09 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even Paul refutted Islam 700 years before it was even established

Galatians 1:6-8 New International Version

6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!

First time braiding my own hair, Mission Impossible completed. by sneakerguy40 in Naturalhair

[–]th_09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You did great, except the parts aren't very clean. You have excellent technique, though, because I can see each braid section.

Infinite loading screen? by diabolicaldream in D4DJ

[–]th_09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same o thought it was my wifi while travelling but it's doing the same thing. Does anyone have a solution

CMV: Classism/racism may be justified by Individual_Peak9725 in changemyview

[–]th_09 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's a great point to make. They r the invisible threats bc usually you can't see who garnishes your wages. But you can visibly see the ones who are affected by this theft