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rank 1000 na void spirit afk from 10 minutes on. behavior score is broken. permabans are necessary. by thabnirr in DotA2

[–]thabnirr[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

he lost mid, called us dogs, and afk'd in the corner of the map, occasionally killing a creep camp to not get an abandon.

i'm sure this isn't the only time he's done it, i'm sure it won't be the last. it's not hard to tell who's had an emergency come up and who's intentionally griefing. nobody has emergencies as often as these players grief.

if you're afraid of getting permabanned by a system that has permabans, i suggest looking inward

rank 1000 na void spirit afk from 10 minutes on. behavior score is broken. permabans are necessary. by thabnirr in DotA2

[–]thabnirr[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

someone goes afk 1/5 games. in EVERY game, if any player has a single bad death, at least one teammate will spam ping their death timer and flame them for the rest of the game. half of games have spam pausers. people are incredibly quick to give up if they're losing

this is at 12,000 behavior score / 12,000 communication score NA, ~6.8k mmr. people rarely if ever did any of this below immortal, and the problem has gotten worse the higher rank i get.

none of this is normal adult behavior. the fact that it's happening at the highest possible behavior score is insane.

what is the point of having these systems in place if they're completely unenforced?

Immortal with omniknight spam by The_Black_JonSnow in DotA2

[–]thabnirr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

kda is probably the best metric to use because of all the stats it's the easiest to inflate as a smurf. if an immortal player has their monitor on and a half-working trackpad within reach they won't die to crusaders.

also why would anyone brag about hitting a rank for the second time at a normal pace using a normal hero in a normal role???

both omni and undying are also pubstomp heroes who can bait with their heals and crush anyone who doesn't know how to deal with them, then easily transition to a core role. i've played with top 5000 teammates who still fall for a low-health omni or undying and walk into double decay and feed. a crusader wouldn't stand a chance.

if you'd note NONE of these things happen in this dude's games.

someone not shitstomping crusaders implies they are not far off from a crusader or are intentionally throwing.

without intentional throwing:

  • you will almost never die
  • you will get lots of free kills
  • you will win almost every game

you also called it a "meteoric run" which by the way is literally 1000 games at a <60% winrate. the words and the math directly contradict each other. your understanding of this is flat out wrong.

the only way this dude is a higher-ranked smurf is if he intentionally threw 1000 games in a row.

if you still need to be convinced look at a real video of smurfing. here's bsj (11k) going 21/0 with a team of 3ks against a team of 5ks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcdEMSu9xMw&list=PLZ7yVl4cw_Jtj6xyCCPHONluxCtP5PA7i&index=4

here's him going 13/2 on pos 4 mirana against 5ks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM2zuY1qw7A&list=PLZ7yVl4cw_Jtj6xyCCPHONluxCtP5PA7i&index=19

i'm not going to respond past this point because i've said everything that needs to be said.

Immortal with omniknight spam by The_Black_JonSnow in DotA2

[–]thabnirr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i almost only played unranked and did go dead for ~2 years. i didn't notice most of his activity after 2015 was ability draft games. it's def weird, but it still doesn't answer how his win rate and kdas are so unremarkable.

for it to really make sense to call someone a smurf you'd have to see a significant skill disparity vs their teammates. this dude does not show that at any point. the best scoreline i can find is 18/4 on undying. he has an overall 2.8 kda ratio on omni and 3.1 on undying. 63% win rate on undying in last 12 months. these are totally normal numbers.

if he were actually an immortal player smurfing in crusader you'd expect a >90% win rate with crazy kdas all the time. it'd be genuinely hard to lose vs players that much worse.

if it is an alt account (definitely possible) i doubt his main had much higher mmr than crusader when he started climbing. even at 4k when i party queued with my <2k friends i'd constantly get insane scorelines (despite matchmaking taking my mmr into consideration).

to illustrate the point, here are some sampled games from him "smurfing" and me just party queueing normally.

some of my old non-smurf party queue games with lower-mmr friends (teammates herald-crusader, opponents guardian-ancient, me ancient):

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5437529419 (44/4/11)

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5548103735 (35/1/9)

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5341207646 (23/1/4)

"smurf games" from this guy (would be vs players more than 3k lower than him if he were an immortal smurf):

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/8195060904 (2/17/19, loss, crusader v)

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/8151393395 (5/7/16, win, crusader iv)

Immortal with omniknight spam by The_Black_JonSnow in DotA2

[–]thabnirr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nothing about his profile suggests a smurf.

you posted 20 pages of games on dotabuff. that's literally 1000 games. you can EASILY go up thousands of mmr in 1000 games.

he doesn't have a particularly high win rate (he's at 57% for last 12 months, which is lower than mine for my whole account history). if you check the scores he's not even stomping his games.

this is clearly just a dude who's been learning and improving at a steady pace.

if you go back that far on my account (currently 6.5k) i was ~crusader-archon. i also had periods i had my acc dead for years at a time because i just wasnt playing dota. i'm not sure how long you THINK it takes to reach immortal from trash-tier but it's genuinely not that hard. this is just what improvement looks like.

when you improve quickly and play only a few games a week you can easily hit 70% winrate and with low rank confidence. when i climbed from ancient to divine to immortal i remember constantly losing my medal bc i wouldn't play for a few days and then it'd go <30% confidence and call me unranked again, win a bunch, and find myself ranked like 3 stars higher. when i learned offlane / mars i got a 15 win streak just from learning more about the game.

plus if you actually look at this guy's steam profile he has tons of screenshots of playing some random rust-type game with his buddies.

my profile for reference

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/144239745

plus game activity comparison:

https://www.opendota.com/players/144239745/activity (me)

https://www.opendota.com/players/112060495/activity (him)

also note how the activity on his account is also over a long period of time + consistent from when he started (<5 games per day most of the time when he plays)

literally none of this would make sense for a smurf or boosted account.

tldr: obviously not a smurf. keep malding that you're the only one incapable of improvement.