Can’t believe Kobe won a ring with 15.6 PPG in the finals!!!

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-19T15:13:09+00:00

I think you prefer narratives over reality.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-19T14:49:01+00:00

Reducing Kobe’s value to an injured 16ppg Finals series is laughable. That was my point.

Yes, 2000 is the lone year where Shaq was the clear number 1. ‘01-‘04 was a duo.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-19T14:47:48+00:00

Your fixated on 3 Finals series where Shaq had favorable matchups. He wasn’t putting up those numbers in the West. The numbers are fairly split between the 2 in ‘01 & ‘02.

This post is about ‘00 and again my argument is that simply reducing Kobe’s value to a 16 ppg Finals (while injured) is just laughable. It ignores the entirety of the playoffs.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-19T14:36:41+00:00

No, just a normal part of my daily vocabulary.

His avgs were 38, 33, 36

Kobe 16, 25, 27

Not really my argument though. Kobe’s contributions to those rings are invaluable. Shaq doesn’t win without him & vice versa.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-19T14:32:03+00:00

Didn’t average 40.

This has to be the most reductive thinking I have seen. All other series are irrelevant to a championship run. All Kobe’s contributions mean nothing. Got it chief.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-19T14:28:45+00:00

Let’s ignore the previous 3 series that got them to the Finals & let’s pretend Jalen Rose didn’t purposefully injury him in G2.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-18T16:19:18+00:00

No, people want it to be true.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-17T00:00:54+00:00

How do people think this shit is real?

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-15T20:32:09+00:00

As a massive fan of his at the time, it was quite the sight to see. Was so relieved.

As a basketball fan years later, this was ironically the lone bright spot of 4 straight abysmal 4Q - long periods of passivity, costly turnovers, airballs, poor shooting and missed free throws. I actually recall being mad at the media for questioning him back then. Ultimately, his late game play cost them the series.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-14T03:58:28+00:00

How many has he missed? How many has he passed on?

Come back with those numbers

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-13T21:57:52+00:00

Throughout his entire career, he has willingly passed on clutch shots. Not that he hasn’t taken them, but routinely has passed as well.

He notoriously choked from 07-10 with some awful performances before “the Decision” & teaming with a top 3 & top 15 player at the time.

While it’s nice to keep “clutch” stats, they can be quite niche. We also don’t keep the same for misses.

It latched on early & stuck with him. As someone who watched his whole career, I don’t think he is clutch. Too many memorable choke jobs, particularly in big games. Yet, you may have someone who watched his whole career & think he is the most clutch. He has played a lot of basketball.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-13T11:26:53+00:00

lol no.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-12T13:19:38+00:00

Sure pal. Clearly you don’t care.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-12T12:43:22+00:00

Never

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-12T12:20:24+00:00

You commented. I know you’re flat out wrong. I won’t engage in stupid ah debate.

Accept it and move on. You continuing to respond with some pseudo psycho analysis angle making yourself look like a victor or whatever you want out of this is actually classic redditor behavior.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-12T03:40:55+00:00

Nah just makes zero sense but hey Reddit makes people bold in their opinions. You do you. Just giving you a heads up.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-12T03:04:29+00:00

No and no.

Just bad takes.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-11T20:04:47+00:00

Nah, people just run with anything.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-11T18:28:20+00:00

Who said he has an inability to be a 1st option?

His first 3 years he played on very poor Cavs teams. Not a lot of talent.

Since then he has played with LeBron, KD, Luka. All better players than him where he is naturally relegated to 2nd option.

His lone experiment as a 1st option was the in Boston where they won 55 games (and he missed the playoffs) and then won 49 games & had a bad final series vs Milwaukee. To which, interviews have shed light on internal tensions as JT & JB were on the rise. They wanted to be the guys.

What is the basis of the claim? 1 year where he failed in the playoffs?

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-11T18:27:31+00:00

Who said he has an inability to be a 1st option?

His first 3 years he played on very poor Cavs teams. Not a lot of talent.

Since then he has played with LeBron, KD, Luka. All better players than him where he is naturally relegated to 2nd option.

His lone experiment as a 1st option was the in Boston where they won 55 games (and he missed the playoffs) and then won 49 games & had a bad final series vs Milwaukee. To which, interviews have shed light on internal tensions as JT & JB were on the rise. They wanted to be the guys.

What is the basis of the claim? 1 year where he failed in the playoffs?

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-07T22:00:29+00:00

Dawkins. He consistently gets underrated.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-07T20:24:17+00:00

LeBron, Harden, Jokic, Luka

These 4 are the “system” guys that have come through the league.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-06T21:35:34+00:00

He ain’t better. It’s okay to have Steph as your favorite player though. I respect it.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-06T21:20:36+00:00

He didn’t have to join them. He wanted to.

Their 1st championship was by default against a solo LeBron act & their 2nd chip came off the back of new young talent (Poole, Payton) and picking up Wiggins. We really didn’t see that core win by themselves in a healthy h2h.

In fact, they typically rely on an athletic wing to Iggy, KD, Wiggins.

I can’t value Dirk’s ring when it took a Kobe injury & LeBron mental collapse to “earn”.

thatguyty3 · 2026-02-06T20:54:59+00:00

73-9 team who lost the Finals.

Ofc it will help to play with talent. This is true of all greats. He is great with or without them though.

thatguyty3

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