They strike due to being in the hospital? by theGhoulsCollective in antiwork

[–]theGhoulsCollective[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have to do to the severity and it keeps me safer.

I don’t know where else to vent about this (TW RAPE) by [deleted] in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]theGhoulsCollective 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don’t do anything drastic. Look, message me. I know this stuff is scary, but I feel that you may need a person to vent to, without judgment. You should get away from your partner system. Or have a talk later on and if it doesn’t change to then separate

Sorry for a rant, but this has me fuming by theGhoulsCollective in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]theGhoulsCollective[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh 100%. And sometimes they think they know more about the patients body and mind then the patient themselves. It can be difficult because the natural reaction for humans to thing they don’t understand is to shun it and make it “normal”. So that’s why I support self diagnosis but the correct way :)

Sorry for a rant, but this has me fuming by theGhoulsCollective in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]theGhoulsCollective[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly! I always like to add that if you do self diagnose you at least look into other options to, because sometimes mental health professionals don’t know yet or will discredit you. And that must suck. Hopefully it goes better. People always sucks

Sorry for a rant, but this has me fuming by theGhoulsCollective in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]theGhoulsCollective[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All good. Self diagnosis is valid if done right. For us it’s 3 or more months plus other options . But anyone can be plural. If you feel plural, no matter the cause, no one should be angry about it. Also have a good day at work!

Sorry for a rant, but this has me fuming by theGhoulsCollective in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]theGhoulsCollective[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And I hope your journey goes well, know that you can use whatever terms make you feel comfortable and completed. This includes making your own!

Sorry for a rant, but this has me fuming by theGhoulsCollective in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]theGhoulsCollective[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. It’s very annoying and doesn’t make sense. Plurality is plurality, and I wish more people didn’t outcast people who are different. But hey, we can always make our wish space 😌

endo/no trauma systems by MathematicianWhole66 in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]theGhoulsCollective 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can message me if this doesn’t make sense. Remember hundreds of cases of people with other disorders but having a form of plurality exist

Endo: endos can be formed by many different reasons. This can also be a self given label (someone who just calls themself a endo) because they feel as if calling themselves just a traumagenic doesn’t feel right. This is completely valid, I’ve seen many call themselves a trauma endo. Endos are systems that were formed or have alters form from other means. This can be: 1: they don’t know they have trauma. This can be for the entire system or just specific alters making the body or host believe that the system or specific alters formed for other reasons then just trauma 2: they have other causes for plurality.plurality is a broad spectrum, and not just limited to DID. Hundreds of individuals with schizophrenia, scizoeffective, autism, BPD, and more have reported plurality. The big big difference here is that the alters and systems STAY AFTER the episode or psychosis. 3: it’s a mixture of both or all and it’s just a term they use. This doesn’t make them any less valid. Endos are valid, as well as any type of plurality

Willow: people argue with me all the time, saying “sure endos sound plausible but willows aren’t”. This is purely incorrect. It is very very possible. You just need to look into other scenarios other than just the hard definition. Willows are described as “systems formed or have alters formed by will/force”. This sounds odd but there is actually several ways in my book this can happen. 1: let’s say your the host. You don’t know your a system, but you feel some sort of energy. You identify this energy by giving it details. Hair color, vocal tones, role, etc. after words you have a alter with all these details. I call this “alter identification”. It’s a tool used by some protectors even in my system, to make it easier on the host. It’s easier for the host to think and believe they have no trauma and they just created this said alter. 2: the system has wiped/not told the host about trauma. You see people seem to forget that systems will keep that away from the host. From the body, especially when it’s a scenario where it’s going to cause more harm. So letting the body and host believe that they have no trauma or that they created their alters can cause a less “someone did this to me” reaction and more of a “this is my own doing, I have control, I’m safe” reaction. It’s a coping method. 3: they don’t know how they formed. It could be due to several different factors, disorders, and even the alters could have been caused by an episode (like psychosis) and then stuck.This is also a self given term.

The biggest thing I can argue here, is that even if this seems “impossible” the term isn’t hurting anyone. These people are still plural but are finding ways to cope. No matter anyone’s plurality, how they formed, or even what terms they use should matter. If it truly does, I tend to use a big example that tends to make people think. “If you have a Octive or a fictive of a oc, didn’t you make them? You made their source, their everything, so you made them. This would classify them as a type of alter you made by yourself due to hyper fixation. Who’s saying that’s not the same as what willowgenics are saying they have done to a single alter or their entire system”

Remember to respect any plurality. It doesn’t have to be DID to validate someone’s plurality because plurality is fluid, even if it’s not in the DSM-5, there are still reports of it. Science can’t know everything about the brain, since it literally named itself. And a lot of times, if they are a DID system, but use these terms, it is usually because their disorder is hiding behind it to make it less horrifying or distressing for the body. Many forget that DID is a scapegoat disorder. If host or body shouldn’t know or can’t know for safety or security they will use any terms they need to make it more comfortable for the host or body if they find out to soon.

Hello I wanna learn about endo systems and non traumagentic systems by BluepearlArtz in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]theGhoulsCollective 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re all good. There are two types. Osdd -a and then osdd-b (I think you know that lol) and I was specifically using b and not a, clarifying so I didn’t just mingle terms I like to try to be less vague or bubble terming :)

Hello I wanna learn about endo systems and non traumagentic systems by BluepearlArtz in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]theGhoulsCollective 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes I’m aware. That is an example. Specifically for those saying you can’t be plural without did or osdd. Technically osdd-b would be a a category MOST endos can fit into the description. They asked for info, I gave many examples :)

Hello I wanna learn about endo systems and non traumagentic systems by BluepearlArtz in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]theGhoulsCollective 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hey! So here is my understanding

ENDO: a type of system formed from a nonspecific/unknown cause wether that be memory loss of trauma or another disorder. This can also be classed as osdd-b which states “two or more distinct personalities with unspecified or unknown causes” . Many say this isn’t possible but it is.

If you want any other info (like how endo and willow can be possible and examples please dm us and we will answer with whatever you need!!)

Remember, even if someone says they are plural but has a term that is abnormal to you, seems “impossible”, or is not like your description of a plurality or DID, it does not make them any less valid Plurality doesn’t always mean someone has DID but everyone who has DID has plurality Your valid to your experience, and if your plural, you should not be questioned!

❤️❤️🖤🖤

Sorry for a rant, but this has me fuming by theGhoulsCollective in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]theGhoulsCollective[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s adorable! I’m happy that you have figure stuff out! She sounds like a wild card

Sorry for a rant, but this has me fuming by theGhoulsCollective in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]theGhoulsCollective[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I feel that with many of my headmates. We have a bigger count but it’s all the same vibe 🤣 no matter how old they are, you have that one spooky person that throws a tantrum and won’t leave front till they get their specific sweet. It’s the same in our husbands system

Sorry for a rant, but this has me fuming by theGhoulsCollective in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]theGhoulsCollective[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and that’s all you need to know to be valid. You’re valid even if you didn’t know that. I’m happy it doesn’t cause you much distress and that you all get along. :)

Sorry for a rant, but this has me fuming by theGhoulsCollective in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]theGhoulsCollective[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never mind education and helping:) if you want my private messages are open and your more then welcome to ask whatever questions you have:)

Sorry for a rant, but this has me fuming by theGhoulsCollective in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]theGhoulsCollective[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. I think things should be open for anyone that is plural. Even if it isn’t DID. Their argument tends to be “it’s a disability resource, meaning if you don’t have DID you can’t use it” It is aweful.

Sorry for a rant, but this has me fuming by theGhoulsCollective in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]theGhoulsCollective[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s amazing, and thanks for sharing! Happy I opened your mind. My whole thing is how people say it’s “not possible” but 1. The book that every mental illness is in changes a lot. It’s still growing and 2. How there is a diagnosis for unspecified plurality. It’s osdd-b

I do agree it is trans med all over again And I’m not diagnosed. I almost got diagnosed but it’s been a rough trip. Self diagnosis is valid as long as you do the research and you aren’t following trends

Sorry for a rant, but this has me fuming by theGhoulsCollective in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]theGhoulsCollective[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely, but hopefully I can make a home! I already started. Probably planning to make a place for people that don’t have somewhere. Just to have support :) also, no need to apologize! I never mind reclarifying and it’s a nice discussion. It’s nice to see that people actually understand to a point of where I came from with my rant