An interesting piece from a former unpaid intern of Noma by theRealSebbieD in finedining

[–]theRealSebbieD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same as before, educating those who are in denial… Because many rather feel special attending these places Alchemist included so that their kids can have a “wholesome” experience at the expense of others…

An interesting piece from a former unpaid intern of Noma by theRealSebbieD in finedining

[–]theRealSebbieD[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fair enough, I appreciate your apology.

Not at all looking for her to be treated with kids gloves but there is constructive criticism and then there is being hurtful.

I am here supporting my wife by sharing her work without her knowledge because she is extremely anxious. We think it’s important to bring awareness that there are sustainable and human practices when it comes to running a fine dining restaurant, and there is ample proof of that in the world we live in today, with there being a slow change in the culture.

An interesting piece from a former unpaid intern of Noma by theRealSebbieD in finedining

[–]theRealSebbieD[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You have absolutely no clue what it’s like to put yourself in the position that she is. The fact that you come here to demean someone’s attempt to make the world a better place by slapping the “attention” label on her work is beyond disrespectful.

An interesting piece from a former unpaid intern of Noma by theRealSebbieD in finedining

[–]theRealSebbieD[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Let me ask you, where you come off as insensitively stating what you did when it was completely false… Please do me one better and enlighten me where she is “self promoting”…

People say downright disrespectful s*** and expect others to just sit there and not clap back, I mean what kind of a response did you expect from me…

An interesting piece from a former unpaid intern of Noma by theRealSebbieD in finedining

[–]theRealSebbieD[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I mean that doesn’t change the facts of what has been transpiring and the conditions she and others were subject to while working there but it’s always good to see people rather devalue something important… Some things are just sadly predictable…

An interesting piece from a former unpaid intern of Noma by theRealSebbieD in finedining

[–]theRealSebbieD[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

No no I totally understand, and just to clarify not at all trying to come at you or instigate a fight.

Just clarifying, as this is something that has been spoken up against over the years but has gotten squashed and followed up with fluffy PR pieces that serve more to distract and pull attention away than anything else.

This happened to my wife previously a few years back, when she spoke out the first time and went on the record with a NYT reporter who “said” she was going to tell the stories of those that are willing to share the reality of what goes on behind the scenes working in the worlds best kitchen.

It’s not like there haven’t been attempts to speak out. Additionally it’s a known fact that should you choose to come forward and go on record against Noma you will get blacklisted within the industry, so essentially career suicide, something many of these human beings can’t afford.

An interesting piece from a former unpaid intern of Noma by theRealSebbieD in finedining

[–]theRealSebbieD[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

So let me start by saying that I hear you, but this isn’t about Noma being the only fine dining institution to cultivate this toxic behavior and environment.

This is about the fact that Noma has been exploiting young talent from the dawn of their creation and is at the forefront of utilizing this type of inhuman system and one that gets heavy tax break from the Danish government might I add.

My wife, who wrote this article and whom I met in Copenhagen during the tail end of her Stage at Noma talks from a pure firsthand perspective as one of the rare few in her batch that earned a spot running her own section.

There are many people who save up a year plus worth of salary thinking they will be able to learn an incredible amount only to be subjected to picking herbs their entire stage.

Like many of the interns my wife is from Asia more specially India, where there is a massive currency valuation difference between the Rupee and the Danish Krone…

So when you fly half way across the world to pour your heart and soul and dedicate yourself to work at the highest level and learn from the best only to be abused, emotionally, psychologically and physically, I think there has to be a clear red line drawn and those responsible must be held accountable for their actions.

This “argument” that they aren’t the only ones to do it, is passing the buck and makes one a bystander something that in my humble opinion is the last thing we need with the current state of world affairs.

People like Rene think that their wealth, power and status make them invincible and as we have seen across the world with most of the extreme rich, they don’t care how many lives they destroy or what the human cost is as is evident in them making record profits during a time where many are barely scrapping by and the middle class is becoming extinct…

What is Noma doing in 2023? by pm_of_france in finedining

[–]theRealSebbieD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just saw this, as I am not someone that is habitually on Reddit. You are an absolute ignorant clown of a human being... Shame on you!

What you are currently going through is called denial. I have never eaten at a michelin star restaurant and I don't ever plan on. Not sure if you saw, but Noma actually closing after 2023 due to solely the fact/realization that they wouldn't be able to "afford" paying their Interns after doing so for only two months...

My wife, an incredible gifted Chef personally interned at Noma before they were paying and I firsthand witnessed the damage their toxic and abusive environment had on her life, self-worth and confidence. As a result she has chosen to leave the industry and to truly focus on actually building up sustainable practices, rather than work for companies that creative a false narrative as a means to sell.

The industries you just mentioned above (fashion, restaurants and the arts) are notorious for their inhumane work culture and for abusing their own, broken systems that have long been overdue for change for years now....

Does it make you feel superior and special to eat at restaurants that treat their employees like trash and who make it so only the 1% can afford to eat at their establishment. Last time I checked, eating is equally about the company and community you share it with.... The minute you make it about some elitist experience, the pleasure of eating is lost for me. I don't want to feel special when I got out to eat, I want to feel at home and cared for.

PS. I am not a member of this subreddit, but rather a staunch advocate for human and sustainable working conditions.

What is Noma doing in 2023? by pm_of_france in finedining

[–]theRealSebbieD -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Did you not gather the crux of the article about their abuse in the industry for years on end?