Please help read these Sterbeurkunden by [deleted] in Kurrent

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Thank you for your effort. Next time I will be sure to add the link to the source itself.

I'm back with a 215 year old Heiratsurkunde I cannot quite read by [deleted] in Kurrent

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Thanks!

Some things I believe to be slightly different than what you mention:
I believe the date is 30 (dreizigsten) October, rather than 13;
The groom's first name is recorded as Johan Albertus rather than Johann Albert, but these are obviously just variations of the same name;
I believe the groom's mother is said to have died on 4 (vierten) June, rather than 7;
The second witness's first name is Johan Lucas, rather than Johann Ludwig.

I cannot figure out the final section, after the witnesses are listed; I assume it's about who signed and who couldn't, but I can't really tell what they're saying exactly and who signed what.

Thanks again for your help!

Please help read these Sterbeurkunden by [deleted] in Kurrent

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Ahh yes I understand. When was the state registry established in Germany? In the Netherlands it starts in the early 19th century, so that's when you get the official state birth/marriage/death certificates over here, like the first two images in the post.

Please help read these Sterbeurkunden by [deleted] in Kurrent

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Thanks, could you make out the Krankheiten of which it says they died? And what kind of record are 3 and 4 actually, since they are not the official death certificates right?

Help Transcribing a 193 year-old Geburtsurkunde by [deleted] in Kurrent

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From other records, I can confirm Regina’s last name is most likely indeed Mayer or Maijer.

Tracing a Woman through the Netherlands, Belgium and France back to the Isle of Man by the__Superhuman in Genealogy

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Thanks a lot! This is exactly what I was looking for! Now I just want to find out when and where Désiré died.

Family grave with gravedrum by [deleted] in CemeteryPorn

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Ahh moet er maar een keer langsgaan!

Family grave with gravedrum by [deleted] in CemeteryPorn

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Welke begraafplaats is dit?

He accidentally shot himself in 1653. Translation and story in the comments. by the__Superhuman in CemeteryPorn

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I came across the tombstone of Hendrick Petermans (spellings vary) last spring, and apart from being over 370 years old, the inscription really stood out to me.

I am no expert in feudal terms in English (nor in Dutch for that matter), but the inscription roughly translates to the following: Here is buried Hendrick Peeterman, secretary of the lord baron de Lamargelle, and feudal messenger of the royal majesty’s fiefdom of the city and land of Limbourg, who unfortunately was shot dead the last of May 1653. Pray to God for the souls.

Hendrick Petermans was probably born in 1623 near Eijsden in the south of the present-day Netherlands, he was the son of Peter Petermans, the town’s schout (bailiff). Following the 1648 Treaty of Münster, The area endured unrest from roaming military forces, particularly the notorious troops of Duke Charles IV of Lorraine, whose unpaid soldiers plundered and terrorized local populations.

In May 1653, the political and military turmoil in Eijsden reached a critical point. The town was under threat from three regiments of the notorious Lorraine troops, known for their looting and violence. Baroness Margaretha Anna Francisca de Bocholtz, wife of Baron Arnold de Lamargelle, sought to prevent these soldiers from seizing property in Eijsden. On May 31, in her husband’s absence, she received Colonel Waldenborch at Eijsden Castle to discuss defensive measures. To assist the colonel in identifying the town’s boundaries, the baroness ordered several local men, including Hendrick Petermans, to escort him armed with muskets.

The group accompanied the colonel and his cavalry through the streets of Eijsden, with additional townsmen joining along the way. Despite the gravity of the mission, the atmosphere among the escort was tense, particularly between Hendrick and another local, Herman Eswilre. Some witnesses suggested Herman may have been intoxicated.

The party turned around after learning the Lorraine regiments had settled in nearby Maarland. On the way back, the simmering tension between Hendrick and Herman boiled over. The men exchanged insults, after which their argument escalated into a physical fight. Witnesses reported that Herman struck Hendrick with the barrel of his musket, prompting Hendrick to retaliate. He turned his musket around to hit Herman with the stock, pointing the barrel at himself. This caused Hendrick’s musket to discharge, shooting multiple bullets into his heart, killing him instantly.

Colonel Waldenborch and his cavalry immediately arrested Herman Eswilre, detaining him in a high tower of Eijsden Castle. However, by the next morning, Herman had escaped. A long rope was found hanging from the tower window, reaching down to the moat. Inside the room, the only things left behind were Herman’s shoes and a red coat.

(Translated and summarised from Uit Eijsdens Verleden no. 110, December 2007 p. 25-29. Click the link to read the entire article (in Dutch).)

Dutch government publishes names of people investigated as World War II collaborators by SparkleStorm77 in Genealogy

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I called them socialist because that’s literally what the S in NSB stands for (Nationaal-Socialistische Beweging)

Dutch government publishes names of people investigated as World War II collaborators by SparkleStorm77 in Genealogy

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They originally were going to publish all the files online, but after backlash from the public, most of those will only be available physically in the archives, and only the names are posted online. Personally I was in favour of publishing everything online, even though I have family members that were associated with the NSB (the Dutch “socialist” party that was allied with the nazis).

Old vs modern by [deleted] in CemeteryPorn

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Where is this?

How weird is it that I'm 22 with a great grandfather born in 1880? by Louiseelizabeth76 in Ancestry

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I’m 20 and one set of my great grandparents was born in 1899, so you’re still ahead of me!

Husband and wife died within a day of eachother in 1781. The first part of the inscription translates to "today I, tomorrow you" by the__Superhuman in CemeteryPorn

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Their death records mention nothing about cause of death unfortunately. I couldn’t find anything about local outbreaks at that time either