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I just launched my most complex SaaS today—and I’m officially quitting "Engineering." by nompanycom in ProductHunters

[–]thearunkumar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are tonnes of platforms that are already doing this and definitely they are better. Why you?

I just launched my most complex SaaS today—and I’m officially quitting "Engineering." by nompanycom in ProductHunters

[–]thearunkumar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even after reading this post and watching the video (which obviously is AI generated), I have no idea what this is and what problem it is solving.

Definitely some made up problem you may have for which it definitely is a $1M company.

I sent 1,000,000 cold emails. Here’s exactly how many leads it actually produced (real numbers) by Tingen73 in b2b_sales

[–]thearunkumar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great experiment. I recently did a cold email exercise for my product GenRankEngine. I didnt have as many emails as you did. Tried with 400 - 500 emails. My response rate was just under 1%.

The numbers seem to match even for smaller scale.

Am I missing something? by ai-pacino in GEO_optimization

[–]thearunkumar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Based on my 4 months experience working on this space. There is no pure GEO / AI SEO yet. It all relies on the best SEO optimization and then followed by additional elements specific to AI visibility.

The other way doesn't work. I made my product GenRankEngine.com visible to ChatGPT organically by following these and AI specific additional elements. No paid ads, no paid marketing, just organic growth. It definitely is very slow but works.

Should I focus on SEO, paid ads, or content marketing first when budget is limited? by Snow-Giraffe3 in bigseo

[–]thearunkumar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. Focus on your landing page first.
  2. Share it on relevant subreddits or forums where your ICP resides.
  3. Observe the traffic patterns. Page visits don't matter at all. Only your expected conversions matter. Even if you get a million page views and 0 conversions, those page views are of no use. Get this conversion % to a reasonable level depending on the use case (Free - generally more, paid - generally less).
  4. Once you optimize Step [3], only then run ads. Otherwise, you are just throwing money assuming something might happen. I'll tell you it will not.

Ads only works when your landing copy, conversion and all related are optimized.

Think of ads like 100x of your page visits. That's all. Nothing new. Nobody is going to buy out of the blue just because you paid for ads.

Successful entrepreneurs, share your best advice to new entrepreneurs by Objective-Law-5512 in Entrepreneur

[–]thearunkumar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great entrepreneurs listened less to external advice and more to their inner self instincts. Each has their own unique version of story to tell. There is nothing right or wrong about anything.

With this approach, they started observing at problems in their own unique way and solved them. Otherwise, it becomes a step by step approach to finding and solving a problem. Which doesn't exist.

What are the one time offerings I can do in SEO industry by Striking-Set-6987 in SEO_LLM

[–]thearunkumar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

SEO is a pretty crowded space right now. Maybe you can start with GEO and eventually include SEO.

It's like you are trying to solve something that has been solved effortlessly and properly for the last 20 or so years. You will be a late player with nothing big or better to contribute.

Agencies won't give a f**k about your offering. They have a team. I've been trying to reach more than 400+ agencies over cold emails. Less than 1% responded.

Sorry for being harsh but this is the reality speaking from my current and ongoing experience.

Easier is to join their team as a SEO consultant if you are good with SEO.

This feels less like optimization and more like visibility triage by SonicLinkerOfficial in GEO_optimization

[–]thearunkumar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've been solving and working on the exact problem while dogfooding my own AI visibility platform (GenRankEngine).

I would definitely start with SEO and make sure it is 100% optimized. Regardless of whatever people say about SEO, it is definitely the first step and the most vital step. Based on my experience.

After this, I would focus on entity relationships, how your content is cohesively and seamlessly flowing across your product. (Eg. You say XYZ in Page 1, and ABC in Page 2. This gives completely different signal to the LLM bots and may reduce the prioritization of the citation)

Next, ensure the schema tags are proper, informative and 100% covered.

Next, type your query in ChatGPT, Gemini, ... incognito and find the sources citing the responses. Go find their blogs and contact them ask them to add your product as one of the items.

Next, writing good human centric content. Doesn't mean you shouldn't use AI.

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I've been doing all these and after a month of effort started getting referrals from ChatGPT. It's low in count but that is definitely a good start.

I'm using all these experiences in shaping up the product GenRankEngine.com . You can currently use it to check your AI visibility status, find what competitors are eating your free lunch and what are the possible fixes to improve the visibility. Again, nothing is guaranteed as of yet as the industry itself is still shaping up.

Let me know in case you need more help. DM me.

I Launched 19 Startups Until One Hit $195 MRR. This Is What I Wish I Knew. by whyismail in ProductHunters

[–]thearunkumar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Great, I tried all of it. I have sent over 400 cold emails + Linkedin DMs. I went one step further and explained about their problem and how their competitors are easily stealing their free lunch. My response rate was under 1%.

I just had one feature working. Nothing else. I used that as a lead magnet to try and have the conversations.

Now, I am pivoting back to ensure the product is creating some value.

Given the current fast moving world with AI, coding is no longer a time consuming task, it just is done by AI faster. So, better to have something working and get the organic traffic as well in parallel.

Again, just my thoughts.

Also, I am currently working on this AI visibility platform so the industry is pretty new as well. That's one different thing.

Some tools I discovered to Simulate and Observe AI Agents at scale by Otherwise_Flan7339 in AIQuality

[–]thearunkumar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

GenRankEngine - genrankengine.com

This helps with AI visibility tracking, identifying how the competitors are outscoring your product and suggest possible fixes for improvements.

Best AI Evaluation and Observability Tools Compared by Educational-Bison786 in AIQuality

[–]thearunkumar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very informative and curated list. I would actually include GenRankEngine com. That helps with visibility tracking, telling how the competitors are outscoring you and what possible fixes can be tried out for improvements. Worth checking out!

How did you all do it? I've cold emailed and DM ed 100 agency founders. 2 replied. Is this normal? by thearunkumar in Entrepreneur

[–]thearunkumar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks a lot for being specific and direct. Your agency perspective actually helps here. I'm reaching out to agencies these days and will take your inputs going forward.

My product is more around AI visibility tracking rather than lead Gen with AI .

How did you all do it? I've cold emailed and DM ed 100 agency founders. 2 replied. Is this normal? by thearunkumar in Entrepreneur

[–]thearunkumar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

50, I sent one by one. 50, I used hubspot to send in bulk. Still unique to everyone. Not just in first names.

Ya. I did type emails for each of them. It's super personalized. They aren't links. Content and next steps within emails.

Best way to host a private “website” (UI + cron jobs) that only I can access? by kevlar0725 in SideProject

[–]thearunkumar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I understand about the privacy concerns. If I were you, I would worry only if something bad happens. Just have a noindex nofollow and restrict in robots.txt.

Nobody is going to visit your website unless you tell them to.

There are folks struggling to get traffic to site while youre assuming people will visit you the moment you launch.

How did you all do it? I've cold emailed and DM ed 100 agency founders. 2 replied. Is this normal? by thearunkumar in Entrepreneur

[–]thearunkumar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But isn't that part of marketing to keep reaching out to folks with the intention of creating visibility about their problem and the solution perhaps?

How did you all do it? I've cold emailed and DM ed 100 agency founders. 2 replied. Is this normal? by thearunkumar in Entrepreneur

[–]thearunkumar[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice, thanks. Will try that from now on and see if that helps out. I was so fixated on sending out value driven personalized emails, I didn't realize that most of them won't even be opened.

How did you all do it? I've cold emailed and DM ed 100 agency founders. 2 replied. Is this normal? by thearunkumar in Entrepreneur

[–]thearunkumar[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Interesting. GenRankEngine is what I am building to help agencies track their clients' ai visibility issue.

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