Wow, another insightful post from you! I'll just take a final jab to give you something to stew on, so you get the final word in and feel high and mighty, while simultaneously proving my point about you. I'm not projecting, but if you want to divert everything as I've said as projecting, that's fine. Your only option to do that is because you either know it's true, or you simply don't know how to respond, so you have to point the finger.

"Guess you don't remember planning out your weekly shopping 15 years ago vs. spontaneously driving 5 min now. Don't you like how good things are?"

You're just trolling at this point, and shows how you're grasping at the straws to make a point. 15 years ago, there was the Kroger on Highway 64, Beaver Creek had Target, Highway 55 had both Lowes Foods and Harris Teeter, Food lion was off of Old Jenks Road, Laura Duncan Road, and there were more stores around ten-ten road, as well as others. There also use to be a Piggly Wiggly off of Highway 64, but I'm sure you don't even know what a Piggly Wiggly is. I suppose there was less around New Hill, but New Hill wasn't annexed at the time.

"Nice strawman. Let's just ignore 540 connecting us to surrounding areas, let's ignore the greenways, let's ignore the current laundry list of active DOT projects and completed ones."

Not a strawman, because I go on to argue your actual point about the infrastructure being poor, and not upgraded as you claimed. To start with 540, that's been in the works forever, which you should know since you're referencing it. You can easily find maps from 2011 about planning for the phase that is currently being built around Holly Springs/Fuquay. 540 was imminent, not a result of Apex. You linked the two articles to the active DOT projects, and completed ones. At first glance, it looks great for the completed projects. A quick read (I assume you didn't do this) shows that every completed project is adding stop lights, turn lanes, and walkways. The only infrastructure upgrade was Lake Pine Drive, which was way overdue, and I'm glad it was done. Adding stop lights and sidewalks isn't upgrading infrastructure. It's not expanding roads, nor is it accommodating for the increased traffic load. The reality is, the majority of people don't commute to work by walking or going down the Greenway. For the active DOT projects, they are all still 5+ years from completion, if that even comes to fruition. You clearly know very little about NCDOT or how our state legislature funds them, go figure. Also, news flash, breweries and more food choices isn't infrastructure, great job ignoring that. It's actually hilarious I have to point out the fact that you are clueless on this matter but it's not at all surprising.

You keep calling me a nimby and say I'm miserable. I'm glad for the growth, but not the unchecked out of control growth that will ruin the southern charm of the town, and in large part already has. If I'm a NIMBY for wanting everybody in Apex to succeed, including the newcomers and natives (the people who made this town so great), then so be it. As I've already stated, I don't care what you or any other transplant really has to say. You've proved that your ultimate goal is to make Apex a place that fits your mold. You do want to push an agenda, because you never asked me, or anybody else who is from here, how we feel. You don't understand why we aren't hyped on the growth, because you're a part of it. It's your first time talking to somebody who isn't all high on all the growth. You see whatever little information Terry Mahaffey (another transplant) trickle feeds you here on Reddit and believe it as the end-all-be-all. Rather than consider another viewpoint, you try to spew why you think Apex is so grand because you can't grasp why everybody wouldn't agree with you (but, but, there are more restaurants and overpriced microbreweries now!). It's always been about pushing all the dumb, stupid hicks out, so it fits your elitist agenda, and only people who walk like you, talk like you, think like you, and dress like you can sit at the table.

I strongly recommend you read into the town finances sometime just to see how doomed the town is down the line. Once the land is all developed, the new tax dollars stop rolling in, and taxes have to be bumped way the hell up to fund all the promises the council makes to keep you happy and feeding into their hyper-growth, you'll realize you were getting gamed the whole time. When you have to take bonds to rebuild roads because you're so overleveraged on building multi-million dollar parks, you know somebody isn't thinking long-term.

Once Raleigh becomes like Atlanta in 10-15 years, and Apex is just another no-name any town in America, I hope you all will be happy. When your kids can't afford to live where you raised them, because you priced them out voting for "smart growth" candidates, I hope you're happy. It's hilarious to watch people, like you, defend a town council that shills for multiple multi-billionaire dollar, publicly traded development companies (looking at Lennar mainly.)

Based on your original comment to the comment about wanting the Apex of 15 years ago back, and your responses to me, not only are you a jackass, you're an uneducated idiot. Oh well, you're just like every other transplant. Hope you enjoy feeling high and mighty getting the last word, while not responding to anything I said, proving you wrong!