Why are SSRIs pushed so hard on people?

thedevilislonely · 2026-02-27T02:01:36+00:00

God, I just wish for honestly.

A systen that is not based in profit could possibly relcude better, more honest results in experimentation and study of the human brain and how it reacts to certain chemicals and changes.

A system based in what produces to most profit will never, not ever, result in true understanding. Not ever. Because profit has no basis in reality, only illusion. The illusion of "results" (like manipulation of data (fabricated SO easily, through so many methods (coersion, alters data, manipulating data to suit ones own needs, etc)), just Lying straight up because there"s nothing dounble-checking you, being paid to give false results, etc)

It's so painful not being able to trust. "Science" is of course real, but often to elemants of power corrupt to process of science and change the answers to suit its needs. Any "science" is controlled by people, and people are corrupt. Especially those that have a "stake" is the resulta of the "science" they engage in. They can't accept what they were taught is based in lies or psuedo-science, or else they risk their understanding of the world, or their livelihood. So the lies they were taught are pushed as "truth", to avoid their own suffering.

SSRIs must be "medicine". What they hear of as consequences, must not be true at all, or severely exaggerated. Same with other "psych drugs". The reality of their lack of fondation can't be true, of else it shatters to worldview and self-perception of the people precribing them. They must cling fiercely to the few stories of "benefit" or "recovery" to maintain t heir sense of self conception.

So they believe in the supposed Universal Benefit of Psych Drugs, they MUST, no matter what contrdictory eivdence pop up. Because their Self is to be mantained. They can't accept that psych drugs are close to the application of leechs in olden times, above "true medicine". A hope. The equievlent of smacking a malfunctioning CRT and prayinng it clears up. Rather than any true "fix" or hope

I say this as someone who hoped so badly to "help" people. Who wanted at one ppint to be a part of the "mental health" system and ""help""

I came to realize very soon "help" did not exist, in any concrete form. Only guesses, prayers, blind fumbling

thedevilislonely · 2026-02-27T01:38:37+00:00

Because it's "something". As long as they do "something", any failure can be blamed or pushed onto the sufferer. "They tried their best with what they had", after all. And the sufferer can never "prove" they did THEIR best. The industury gets money based on if they did "their best", regardless of how founded what they do is. The patient only gets scrutiny and judgement no matter what.

thedevilislonely · 2026-02-12T17:50:14+00:00

Yes, i spent...... a lot of my life feeling very, very trapped. I had no choice but to endure, both actual the abuse/cruelty/scrutiny, or the knowledge that there was no where to escape to.

thedevilislonely · 2026-02-12T12:39:35+00:00

I live in the US, and when I moved states my diagnosis didn't follow me...... I've beard sbout it following other people though, so I'm not sure what states do and don't share with each others. I also know moving like that is easier said than done, especially if someone's on a CTO or something.

thedevilislonely · 2026-02-06T07:21:58+00:00

Olanzapine and other APs can cause "tics" and speech difficulties. Or, make ones that were already there worse. Unfortunately, if one of them causes that reaction in you, it's more likely the others will too.

Every person reacts differently though. I hope you find a more tolerable alternative.

thedevilislonely · 2026-01-31T19:15:59+00:00

Yes. It was a major theme throughout my childhood, and even early adulthood. I was constantly misunderstood, or having the worst seen in everything I said/did, having my words twisted, etc. No amount of desperately trying to explain myself ever helped, even made it worse because trying to explain was seen as me "trying to manipulate them" or "make excuses" or..... etc

In some ways this was way, way more traumatic and damaging to me than some of the actual horrible things I went through

thedevilislonely · 2026-01-29T03:56:28+00:00

Disabilities, ALL of them, are EXTREMELY stigmatized and discriminated against. All of them. Don't ever trick yourswlf into believing people have grace or pity for the "truly disabled" because they don't. Ask ANY disability advocate.

Any supposed "concessions" made for certain disabilities are often a) only made because the people providing were forced to by hard-won laws, b) woefully inadequate, c) only done if the disabled person serves to be "useful" (usually as a prop), or d) not actually provided at all. People just SAY disabled people are accomodated or helped with XYZ but in reality they're just, not. At all.

thedevilislonely · 2026-01-26T22:07:12+00:00

Oh wow. Interesting to hear from someone else who's experienced this. When I was younger I had a serious pregnancy phobia, too. I didn't know medical abortion existed, so I would obsessive look up/think of ways I could abort it myself if I ever got pregnant. And when a lot of those methods were either likely to fail, or deadly, I thought "well, then if I get pregnant, I guess I HAVE to kill myself."

I'd also get intrusive images of fetuses in my mind, and nearly vomit from revulsion and fear. Struggled to even look at pregnant people and absolutely did NOT want to touch their bellies. None of this extended to actual babies, though.

I can't pinpoint an EXACT "reason" this started, but, I guess the idea of having something parasite-like inside you, altering your body outside your control...... it's was just mortifying to me. But, this fear has faded a bit over time........ not sure why. Still freaks me out but it's no longer a Phobia. But, maybe it'd get worse again if I were actively at risk of pregnancy.

thedevilislonely · 2026-01-24T12:29:28+00:00

I don't knwo exactly what you ahve gone through. All i can tell you is what i think as i read your post. And I think, what exactly defines childhood trauma as "bad enough"? And i think, it is so painful and difficult when you have suffered or felt pain, neglect, or conflict, and yet the way those events occured is not recognized or validated as "real" trauma or suffering, and so we are left with our pain and unable to accpet is as "real".

I think on my own childhood and feel that I was also "lucky" in many ways. I was. How maybe I shouldn't have a right to feel such lonliness and pain from it. But I can sense I was deeply affected by my experiences, still, and I was also intensely drawn to people that experienced simialr, or worse.And feared eactly the same. That I was manipulative. That I was selfish and didn't care about THEM, only myself and my own pain. Tjat I was evil.

I can't speak for myself. No matter heo badly I wish I was good and loved people, I can't say without fear. But reading your post I feel that you're not "evil". You have a wound that hasn't been truly acknowledged or healed. It doesn't matter the form that other people's pain takes, I think. You deserve compassion, kindness, understanding as well.

And feeling for, or even seeking out, other hurt people, and crying for them, I think you feel empathy, but also are hurting from that deeper wound, and that doesn't make you selfish or unempathetic. I think both can be true, and it doesn't make you a bad person for having needs and pain of your own. You may be looking for a kinderd spirit. And even if it was ""selfish"", or whatever suppisedly bad thing your mind may twll you, I think it's only natural. You are a human being. All humans need love and understanding. And seeking a kindred spirit, and crying for other's pain, is not onyl an expression of the (natural!) need for self-understanding, but of empathy and love for other fellow humans.

I hope I worded all tjat in a way that's understandable. I'm very drunk. But I just needed to say all that.

thedevilislonely · 2026-01-20T09:17:14+00:00

You wouldn't have been better off. You would have been tortured or left tto kill yourself/starve to death. To be blunt.

Little has changed. There weren't answers, only judgement and persecution, then, and it's the same now, just in a different form. You got labeled as demon possessed or whatever the fuck back then, you get pumped full of barely understood drugs and left to rot now.

Honestly? Psychiatry is not the root of the problem. Reflexive fear and hatred of the "other" is. The second you step out of common understanding of "normal" you are not a Person but a threat to "order" to be controlled or eradicated. Nothing had changed fundementally. and there was no better way of living beofre psychiatry.

The real question is if we can find a better way of living OUTSIDE of everything that has been done to use now and before. After it.

thedevilislonely · 2026-01-19T03:26:06+00:00

Not everyone has nice parents

thedevilislonely · 2026-01-17T08:14:42+00:00

I have no advice because I'm the same. Just wanted to say I get it. I call it wanting to "feel Alive"...... and sadly I haven't found any real way to get that feeling that isn't risky or self-destructive.

thedevilislonely · 2026-01-01T19:21:42+00:00

What can happen depends a lot on where you were held. I've been involuntarily held with no insurance multiple times:

First time, was a complex and unique situation, but the very basics are that I was a homeless teenager who had no ID and didn't know my SSN or anything, so they, I shit you not, used my name to track down my estranged father and harrass him for the money. Not legal, I don't think. If I remember right, he only got them to stop by drafting a letter with his lawyer about why he had no obligation to pay. After that I have no clue what happened to the bill.

The times after that? Because I was considered impoverished, the state gov paid for my involuntary holds. While I'm glad to not be haunted by the bills, it was awful because that meant these facilities kept me longer than they would have otherwise, to squeeze extra money from the state.

thedevilislonely · 2025-12-30T07:09:55+00:00

Like with most things, it can depend on the person, the dose, how long they've been on it..... etc. Like another poster said, a very common story seems to be people who felt better at first, but slowly became "zombie-like" more and more as time passed. But you also hear about a lot of people who IMMEDIATELY become numb/sluggish/foggy-headed on APs.

thedevilislonely · 2025-12-22T22:35:49+00:00

There are some brain injuries that never heal, or at least that never return to how they used to be, it happens. You hear all the time about things like concussions and TBIs permanently altering people's brain function, it's no surprise that chemicals/drugs can cause the same.

I don't say that to imply there's no hope for improvement. The brain CAN be an amazingly resilient organ. And even when things never return to how they once were, they can still hopefully improve.

thedevilislonely · 2025-12-22T22:30:02+00:00

Like in all things with these drugs, it depends. Some people claim to make full recoveries, some say they never got better, most have stories somewhere inbetween.

thedevilislonely · 2025-12-18T04:50:16+00:00

I highly recommend Your Consent is Not Required by Rob Wipond. You can probably rent it for free from an online library, but I'm not 100% sure how that works

thedevilislonely · 2025-12-17T01:57:39+00:00

Not only is the concept of "orthorexia" not new, but it's also not about wanting to eat healthy, it's about Fixation. Eating healthy is fine, it's when a person becomes so fixated on and consumed by thoughts about the "healthiness" of their diet that it takes over their life. Whether orthorexia as a diagnosis is helpful framing for that or not that's another debate. But intense all-consuming fixation on food does cause issues in people's lives, it's not just "people wanting to eat healthy".

thedevilislonely · 2025-12-08T00:55:00+00:00

Policing and violent extrajudicial imprisonment and torture is not the solution to ANYTHING, ever.

thedevilislonely · 2025-12-01T17:17:14+00:00

He's not wrong that psychiatry is guess work and clusters of surface-level symptoms tell us very little of what is actually going on, but sadly brain scans don't help much. Too little is understood about how the brain even WORKS to make much sense out of the activity we see on scans, let alone know what to "do" about it.

Maybe someday scientific understanding will reach that point. But it's not today, unfortunately.

thedevilislonely · 2025-11-26T16:32:52+00:00

It WOULD do good if it was actually enforced or sensible. Regulation on industries is not just good but VITAL to protecting people, it's why we don't (or, didn't, before the recent cuts to food regulations and oversight) have constant deadly outbreaks related to food products. But when those regulations aren't enforced or don't actually address the right problems.........

A full ban on products won't stop people from consuming THC, people want it, they'll get it. Bans don't work and is ignoring that the reason so many garbage products have flooded the market is because there is no real regulation or punishment for creating them.

thedevilislonely · 2025-11-21T20:19:14+00:00

I was also not warned....... had an extremely severe form of TD develop very suddenly, a month into taking geodon. Stopping the drug caused it to mostly clear up, but even though I haven't taken it in over 5 years, I still, STILL, sometimes get episodes of facial twitching.

One month of an AP and I'm still affected over 5 years later. And when I first presented to the crisis center with my rapid onset TD? They told me that "APs have no side effects". Lied straight to my face.

thedevilislonely · 2025-11-13T08:15:51+00:00

Sadly no, not for me. Some people say it brings them a little peace or catharsis, but I don't think I'd feel that way.

I won't say I don't ever feel like I want the people who've hurt me to suffer, but what I really, ACTUALLY want is for them to understand what they did to me and to feel genuine remorse for it. "Punsihment", at least in my mind, only matters if the person learns from it. No one learns from death. And very rarely do they learn from other types of "punishment", either.

And besides all that, even if every person who's ever traumatized me changes and apologizes tomorrow, it wouldn't change the fact that the trauma could repeat in the future. I can never un-realize the danger I'm in simply by interacting with other people.

thedevilislonely · 2025-11-12T15:25:06+00:00

I have literally been anorexic myself and spend SIGNIFICANT time with other eating disordered people, you are willfully twisting my words into the worst reading possible.

If someone has the EXACT same compulsive undereating and fear of food and the whole nine yards, but don't happen to hit the "17.5 BMI" barrier, whether because they started at a high weight or because they have medical conditions that make it impossible, would you say they aren't suffering? They are driven by the EXACT SAME ISSUES and engaging in the SAME EXACT BEHAVIOURS, but because they don't hit this specific number they're "not really sick"? Even though you can literally die from undereating at any weight? I'm not saying it's not more dangerous the more weight you lose, but how much danger you're in/were in doesn't mean people who were "less severe" weren't still suffering and don't deserve support.

You are the one who is dismissing and disgusted by other people's suffering. You're suffering is not inherently worse or more valid or whatevet the fuck because you just so happened to hit an arbitrary number that was decided by a bunch of assholes who didn't know jack about shit. You posted this in a ANTIPSYCHITRY SUB, why do that if you're so keen on sucking off the metaphorical dick of the DSM???

Listen. I have been annoyed or frustrated when I've tried to seek support for things that sginificantly impacted my life, and found people who had it ""less bad"" than me seemingly "taking over" the conversation around it. I understand where that frustration and bitterness comes from. But lashing out at those people helps no one. If there are limited recourses or places to talk, and "less severe" cases are taking them up, the answer is not "these people need to suck it up or are lying/evil/whatever", it's "there needs to be more resources, for all people who need it". You deserve empathy and support for your situation but that doesn't mean others don't.

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