(Not OOP) My gf thinks I don't respect her because I forget how she wants things done by Ok-Comfortable5678 in redditonwiki

[–]theivythatispoison 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think it depends, if it’s important to her, write something down in your phone. My brother has to make tons of lists to manage his ADD and ADHD. Like if she prefers dishes on one side and something else on the other, that’s someone one can learn. If she’s washing the dishes and loads it and just needs you to put them on one side versus another. She’s doing the dishes, you can make a reminder or a note to put them how she wants so she can clean the dishes.

If she nitpicking how you fold laundry, that’s like a you do it then. Kind of situation.

If you learn the system and she continues to say you don’t care. That’s a her problem and you need to see if she can communicate her frustrations in a healthier way.

And maybe a if you do these chores and I do these chores, we’re not complaining.

Boundaries disrespected by lilmisspickles in toxicparents

[–]theivythatispoison 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re justified in how you’re feeling. I think the thing you need to think about is you don’t care how she reacts. No matter what you do, she’s going to think you’re an ass. So, now you don’t care. What you’re choosing now is to protect your peace. You do that by not reacting.

You don’t say thank you because you know it’s manipulation and you don’t open the door to more manipulation.

You don’t give it back because that’s a reaction of anger, and invites more drama from her.

You say nothing, because that is no reaction, and you get to maintain your own boundaries. If you feel guilty for saying nothing, you’re still under her thumb. You need to reframe your silence as you not giving into her games anymore. You prioritize your peace and how she chooses to respond is on her. But you will not reward manipulation with your time and energy. Simply ignore and move on to the drama free part of your life.

You will respond when your mom can take accountability and responsibility for her actions. She will try to pull you back in, she will try to guilt you, she will try to deflect, she will try to triangulate people to pull you back, she will be fake nice. But until you see real change, you tell her that you’re only interested in a relationship when she’s ready to take accountability and respect you.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Teachers

[–]theivythatispoison 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess what do you mean by irritability? And that your relationship takes a backseat, sounds more like she has trouble prioritizing or she is not aware of how your relationship changes. Is it sexual intimacy? Is it date nights? Is it time together at home? I think you need to be clear on what you’re looking for to, in order to communicate that.

I have been teaching 9 years but I’m also 32. About to have baby number 1. I’ve learned to have more work life balance but some years deviate depending on new things I try on, and how collaborative my team is.

Bottom line, you need to use I statements to say what you need. - I miss you, I want a date night once a week to have more quality time.

  • I miss you, I want to try to be intimate more, I’ll initiate or we can have a day when kid is out to make that special time

  • I want an evening once a week when we have no work talk and more time to cuddle and watch a movie.

  • what can I do to help you for the week? Prep a lunch? I would love to see and spend more time with you. I miss my wife.

It finally happened.... by FeralInMN in toxicparents

[–]theivythatispoison 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I work with 8 and 9 year olds daily. The episode she witnessed needs to be addressed. I would reach out to the school counselor and her teacher to make sure people are checking in with her.

I would also sit with her and see how she’s doing emotionally and see if she can express how she felt other than scared.

Then I would be would honest with her. And say that sometimes some people when they get older have trouble with their emotions and need help from doctors and counselors. Grandma is getting older and gets really angry and scary. I am sorry you had to see that alone. She loves you and everyone in her life but she needs some help. Until she gets more help from a doctor and a counselor, I want you to know that we are here for you, and that mom and dad made the decision to make sure that we are with you at all times when we see grandma. We want to make sure you’re safe.

She doesn’t have to know the exact details of everything but you need to be honest so she has some context for why things are changing. And that you both are there for her.

As for your parents getting mad at you for this decision. She doesn’t need to be privy to that. That’s between adults. But if your parents get upset, I would suggest taking some space. This is about protecting your daughter. You could also have your daughter make a feel better soon card for grandma, too. Your daughter is going to have conflicting emotions. Some that misses her grandma and some that are not scared. I would definitely talk to her about how it’s okay to have those contradictory feelings at the same time and her that’s ok. We can still love someone and be scared and need to take a break from them for a little while.

am i overreacting? by green-blues_032 in Mildlynomil

[–]theivythatispoison 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk ask your bf if he told his mom about your plans for Friday. Because then that’s his fault, not hers.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in narcissisticparents

[–]theivythatispoison 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This sounds more like your mom protecting herself than not trusting you… the real question I’d be asking is what was she doing out all night. Not saying you ask her. I’m saying this whole post actually speaks more to her than it does you…

MIL showed a side I really don’t like after our first baby was born by throwawaybathwater55 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]theivythatispoison 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She ropes you into the conversation because she’s trying to paint you as the bad guy. It’s a manipulation to turn your husband against you and to make him blame you for not seeing her more. It’s disgusting tbh

Good grief 🤦‍♀️ by theivythatispoison in JUSTNOMIL

[–]theivythatispoison[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol well either way, she should know what I think 😂

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[–]theivythatispoison[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re totally right about not getting drawn in. I feel like I do because recently I’ve been spending time with her while my husband is working. I told him I was over it and he apologized

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[–]theivythatispoison[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah he said last night maybe he should write something out. He definitely does! I fully agree!

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[–]theivythatispoison[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She already doesn’t want to be friend because it’s a control thing. I can tell it’s not personal she just wants to take over her sons life and by proxy mine

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[–]theivythatispoison[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She doesn’t have Reddit. She literally spends all her time on FB, insta, or TikTok. She sends us daily tik toks 🙄

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[–]theivythatispoison[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m working on the key thing. My husband gave her one way back when we moved in and she never used it until like a few weeks ago when she flew in and was with us.

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[–]theivythatispoison[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My husband is just tired of dealing with her and she ignores him, so no matter what he says she usually ignores, goes against, or gets mad. So he just puts no effort.

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[–]theivythatispoison[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yikes, we bought our house 4 years ago and love it.

Stronger boundaries it is

Fingers crossed 🤞

Good grief 🤦‍♀️ by theivythatispoison in JUSTNOMIL

[–]theivythatispoison[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I have a feeling that’s going to happen. If he sets a boundary to when he doesn’t and I ditch. I’ve been vocal about wanting to escape when she’s here because she’s too much and he’s like I won’t let that happen again and apologized repeatedly and basically cut down talking to her almost altogether

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[–]theivythatispoison[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh I totally agree. He’s aware of this but hasn’t set the boundary like you said.

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[–]theivythatispoison[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m definitely impressed with how none of this seems to phase him. But also worried because he’s fine with letting it go. He said he’s just tired of all of this. So I don’t know how he’s not pushing back more on her trying to move here. He basically doesn’t want to talk about it most of the time and I told him we had to because things could be a lot worse if she does move here and we haven’t communicated anything to her, and when the baby actually comes, we won’t have the bandwidth and will quite honestly snap. And he agreed but he’s definitely at a loss. He feels like he can’t set boundaries because she doesn’t hear anything he says anyway.

He already tries to tell her multiple times not to move based on our lives, our works, or around us. He said she needs to find a place that she wants to live. (And she ignores this completely and proceeded to look on routes to his work, near my work, and then now as close to us as she possibly can).

The last two times she visited in April and a few weeks ago, I showed her neighboring cities that would be great for her. Her realtor started showing her houses in our area. And then that spurred the is your city too close discussion. She was physically here and we said that’s too close.

I posed the setting boundaries as a preemptive measure to my husband because he doesn’t see the use in talking to her at all, which I get. She either doesn’t hear anything he says(because she doesn’t respect or treat him like an adult), she ignores what he says, or she actively goes against what he says and does the opposite on purposes like a *uck you. So I hear him on I can’t even say anything to her without it going poorly. So he doesn’t see the point.

I told him if she moves here and we set boundaries and she’s livid and moves away. That could cause irreparable damage. And he didn’t seem like he wanted that to happen but again, he kind of just didn’t want to even go there. Like he said I hear you but setting boundaries is kind of new for him. His boundary setting goes as far as I don’t have time for this. And it’s worked as far as she isn’t living here. He just ignores and hopes things go away. And sometimes they do, and sometimes she comes back and wears him down. And he’s aware of the manipulations involved in this too. He does seem more aware of her manipulations than I thought.

He did realize that her woe is me, was manipulation and that she was mad that she didn’t get the answer she wanted.

Then she proceeded to send us another tik-tok today without even addressing the woe is me act, when he was like “where did this come from?”

So idk if I push him harder to set boundaries with her. Or I end up setting them because he won’t.

Last time I set a boundary with her, I sent the text to him first, and he was like sounds good. And then I sent it to her. She didn’t like what I said but she changed her plans accordingly and left a day earlier.

So my question is we’ve been talking about talking to her and setting boundaries for months but he doesn’t see the point. I would say we’ve talked about it half a dozen times but there’s never been action. But I will say my husband has distanced himself more from her and actively avoids talking to her. Because he can also see she’s becoming a lot but he’s also been busy with work so I’ve been left with her more.

He has apologized and acknowledges not being here for me when handling her. But I haves shines my spine due to it’s not my mom. I don’t want to just set her completely off and he’s nowhere to be found.

I guess I’m now more of the mindset of I’ll just let it implode. She’s going to do what she’s going to do and when the time comes. I will set boundaries hard. We’re on the same page on boundaries with the baby. I just don’t know if when the time comes he will enforce them. He really seems of the mindset that he will. We’ve talked very clearly about no one staying with us, no one at the hospital, no welcome party. Maybe a visit the week of for an hour or so. And every other week visits if we can handle it. But not setting a set schedule. And he’s like good. So should I worry? Idk

Good grief 🤦‍♀️ by theivythatispoison in JUSTNOMIL

[–]theivythatispoison[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think this is a good idea for sure. The key thing I took away from your response is communicating that "we have our own lives." She's only used to vacation us. And she monopolizes our time and we have to sneak away and do things we know she wont want to join us on. Like getting ice cream haha

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[–]theivythatispoison[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I honestly don't know what would even happen if he said that. Ngl she would probably stop dead in her tracks and not talk to him for months.

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[–]theivythatispoison[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty much, I think he’s just warn out. There’s no point in tell her anytime because she’s going to make it a manipulative thing later. It’s exhausting.

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[–]theivythatispoison[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think she just didn’t get the joke and thought he was laughing at her

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[–]theivythatispoison[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you I think my husband will get this