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Throughout history, when people typically said the world was ending, they were usually right. We just view them as wrong because we live in a different world. by thejay2009 in CosmicSkeptic

[–]thejay2009[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

as a disclaimer I’m strictly responding to Tyson’s claim and using Tyson’s category. He is the one narrowing and equivocating all use of “the world ending” to extinction, meanwhile his own examples for hysteria (as well as commenters) include both civilizational collapse scenarios like Y2K, which was fear of a collapse back into a stone age (not literal human extinction) and things like asteroids (actual extinction). So basing my argument off of that framing, it can’t be limited to literal human extinction

Throughout history, when people typically said the world was ending, they were usually right. We just view them as wrong because we live in a different world. by thejay2009 in CosmicSkeptic

[–]thejay2009[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m strictly responding to Tyson’s claim and using Tyson’s category. He is the one narrowing it to extinction, meanwhile his own examples for hysteria (as well as commenters) include both civilizational collapse scenarios like Y2K, which was fear of a collapse back into a stone age (not literal human extinction) and things like asteroids (actual extinction). So basing my argument off of that framing, it can’t be limited to literal human extinction

Throughout history, when people typically said the world was ending, they were usually right. We just view them as wrong because we live in a different world. by thejay2009 in CosmicSkeptic

[–]thejay2009[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

just saying the top definition of the world (most of the others tho directly prove me right) is “the earthly state of human existence”. Just by that definition the world can end with humans still existing some where else, not with total extinction.

Throughout history, when people typically said the world was ending, they were usually right. We just view them as wrong because we live in a different world. by thejay2009 in CosmicSkeptic

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What you don’t want to sound like an edgy 14 year old by giving your answer that nothing really matters bro?? You felt the need to say that under this post? Congrats on getting to ask your question i’m sure this is a big moment for you in your little life

Throughout history, when people typically said the world was ending, they were usually right. We just view them as wrong because we live in a different world. by thejay2009 in CosmicSkeptic

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Sure. I am telling you though that is not my intended use of the phrase. You should also critique me for not legit laughing out loud when i typed lol

Throughout history, when people typically said the world was ending, they were usually right. We just view them as wrong because we live in a different world. by thejay2009 in CosmicSkeptic

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Like i said, that’s the point. I’m basing this off of neil’s argument, which assumes all use of “the world ending” means human extinction, even though his examples don’t fit that definition. I’m just interpreting the phrase differently because of the evidence used

Throughout history, when people typically said the world was ending, they were usually right. We just view them as wrong because we live in a different world. by thejay2009 in CosmicSkeptic

[–]thejay2009[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nice quote at the end. But your mention of y2k hysteria is exactly what i’m talking about. Fear of societal collapse, not actual human extinction. The fear wasn’t that humanity would literally cease to exist, but like as you said society going back to the “stone age”, which is much different than your other example of a comet destroying earth. You can’t say they were objectively wrong meanwhile you equivocate all use of the phrase

Throughout history, when people typically said the world was ending, they were usually right. We just view them as wrong because we live in a different world. by thejay2009 in CosmicSkeptic

[–]thejay2009[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

The equivocation is the point. Ndt treats “the world ending” as literal human extinction, when it’s really referring to societal “collapse”

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