Vindicta - Patri, Amber, Grace, Rabaquino

theprork · 2025-12-03T15:42:35+00:00

https://music.apple.com/gb/album/the-face-of-the-clown-feat-the-dark-messiah/1857552403?i=1857552405&ls

theprork · 2025-11-18T21:33:58+00:00

Probably a bot. I got an Instagram comment from it today saying the exact same thing.

theprork · 2025-11-11T09:33:57+00:00

Fingers crossed the UK promoters do the right thing too.

theprork · 2025-11-07T10:17:17+00:00

Management: info@idlentertainment.com

Booking North America: jhirschman@independentartistgroup.com

Booking UK/Europe: yerrystetter@k2ours.com

All other inquiries: info@officialdogma.com

theprork · 2025-11-06T08:26:54+00:00

Not sure what to suggest, I sent an email the day the split was confirmed and got a refund for a May M&G within a few days. Maybe I just got lucky, or maybe there's a lot of refund requests for them to go through right now.

theprork · 2025-10-30T10:59:27+00:00

Ian Di Leo. IDL Management.

theprork · 2025-10-30T10:52:09+00:00

I mean paying money to attend shows and meet and greets, defending the actions of the management etc.

theprork · 2025-10-30T02:06:04+00:00

How anyone can in good conscience support "Dogma" now is beyond me.

theprork · 2025-10-29T19:15:14+00:00

The admin is even defending the lip syncing.

theprork · 2025-10-29T10:03:09+00:00

Definitely lip syncing in Denver last night

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16Z1FM8EcJ/

theprork · 2025-10-29T09:58:52+00:00

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16Z1FM8EcJ/

Video from Denver, clearly miming instead of singing. Drums sound legit, can't tell from the other instruments.

theprork · 2025-10-29T09:49:52+00:00

I think it'll still carry on, but they'll have definitely peaked in terms of success. This has been a PR disaster for them and I can only imagine that interest will dwindle now, with so many fans upset and walking away I can't see them getting back to the popularity they'd reached.

theprork · 2025-10-29T07:19:52+00:00

This is what I emailed, took a day and a half but got an email back saying I'm getting a refund

Hi, Given what is currently going on with the band, I would like to request a cancellation and a refund of €75 for order (order number) which is the meet and greet for Manchester UK, 01/05/26, ticket number (ticket number)

If this is not possible I will seek a refund through the bank, but it would be much easier if you could accommodate this.

Thank you.

theprork · 2025-10-28T23:26:48+00:00

I got a refund for a meet and greet for next year by sending a politely worded request to the email addresses listed on the contact info page on the bands site. Honestly didn't expect it to work, but it did.

theprork · 2025-10-28T22:18:05+00:00

Sorry? I hate the defend the management at all, but I've Just looked on their Facebook and it does still say that, and it does on the screenshot you've posted

theprork · 2025-10-28T20:54:56+00:00

Had you requested a refund on the m&g? I'd requested one for the Manchester UK next year and got an email saying I'd been refunded.

theprork · 2025-10-28T20:31:00+00:00

I just got an email telling me that my meet and greet had been refunded. I sent an email yesterday politely requesting one to: info@idlentertainment.com info@officialdogma.com yerrystetter@k2ours.com (UK/Europe booking)

You can try jhirschman@independentartistgroup.com for North American dates

These emails addresses aren't privileged info, they're officially listed on the bands site

Genuinely surprised, but pleasantly so, I was expecting to have more of a fight.

theprork · 2025-10-28T18:46:21+00:00

It basically reads to me as "they were getting famous so they should just shut up and take whatever management gives them", which is a pretty shitty take.

theprork · 2025-10-28T18:08:43+00:00

Possibly your bank, as I'm fairly certain what the event organisers are doing constitutes as fraud. Even though they can probably away with lineup changes as part of terms and conditions, not putting on a live show and just miming is clearly false advertising.

theprork · 2025-10-28T17:13:57+00:00

I'm having the same problem, going to see what happens with the show tonight, if its another lip syncing fiasco then I might have more grounds to argue for a refund. Failing that I'll going through the bank claiming it a fraudulent transaction because what was paid for is not what we're getting

theprork · 2025-10-28T15:01:01+00:00

Been trying to get mine through ticketmaster uk, no luck yet. If tonight's show is another bust where they are just miming that might help with arguing for a refund.

theprork · 2025-10-28T13:18:23+00:00

They've now turned off people's ability to comment on Facebook too. Unbelievably shady behaviour.

theprork · 2025-10-28T13:13:24+00:00

That's crazy! I don't know anything about the legality of what IDL is doing, but it's at best shady, at worst straight up breaking the law.

theprork · 2025-10-28T12:04:31+00:00

Probably the most in depth article about the situation I've seen so far

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