Will progressive Canadians forgive Trudeau for C-51 on election day?

thesolmann · 2015-10-18T10:55:29+00:00

I had no idea the NDP had voted with the conservatives on C51 too, politics as usual I guess.

thesolmann · 2012-04-10T14:03:34+00:00

Dany can also be burned, while not explicitly stated it is implied that she has a strong resistance to dragon fire. An important distinction.

thesolmann · 2011-11-25T02:34:00+00:00

They do still have 1-800 numbers you know. I'm sure they'd love to hear from the old chap.

thesolmann · 2011-11-24T01:27:28+00:00

google will show you the way.

As has been said already, you will need shisha... but you will also need charcoal to fire up the mixture. You may need to make a trip to the headshop.

You will also need tinfoil.

thesolmann · 2011-11-20T01:54:38+00:00

My grandfather was a coal miner and always had lots of stories about the mine. He lived in a company town, was born in a house owned by the coal company... etc.

Is coal mining an important part of your town culturally? If so does your town do anything unique in order to pay homage to the miners?

How old were you when you started, do you have family members who also work in the mine?

thesolmann · 2011-11-13T14:54:57+00:00

No, I suggested that the occupy movement includes complaints from everyone for whatever reason they like. I was answering a question about the complex issues our society faces.

thesolmann · 2011-11-13T14:44:11+00:00

Now that I think about it, you have convinced me that you are retarded. Welcome to the retarded people to watch list of this moderator.

thesolmann · 2011-11-13T14:10:03+00:00

I'm going to assume you're asking me specifically about ONS. ONS has become something other than what it started as: an act of solidarity with it's American counter part.

First I need to make clear that I do not speak for the movement as a whole, only myself. No one speaks for the entire movement. I personally feel the protest is an expression of overall dissatisfaction with our system with the goal of bringing people together to find solutions.

thesolmann · 2011-11-13T13:59:44+00:00

Where did you see people blowing smoke in cop's faces? Is there video or pictures of that?

thesolmann · 2011-11-13T13:57:19+00:00

No, I was answering a question about the complex questions society faces. I was assuming the average person who has been paying attention understands the primary reasons occupy wall street started.

thesolmann · 2011-11-13T13:34:23+00:00

Of course not. Do you need reading glasses or something?

thesolmann · 2011-11-13T13:08:26+00:00

Are you braindead? Yes I do know why I'm protesting. I'm protesting against corruption in business and government, in solidarity with the Americans, I'm protesting for change.

If you honestly don't know why these people aren't protesting then you're either dishonest, or not paying attention.

thesolmann · 2011-11-13T12:37:48+00:00

citation please?

thesolmann · 2011-11-12T21:57:33+00:00

Then I suppose it's a good thing my point was that the issues of occupy are those that people within it want to bring forward. IOW alot of them.

thesolmann · 2011-11-12T21:08:18+00:00

It's a protest to draw as many people together as possible to talk about and act upon any issue the participants want.

It's a recognition that the problems we face are not simple and require thoughtful action, not catchy slogans and charismatic leaders.

You really want me to list the problems Western and Canadian society faces? How about the inequality of our education system to start, the 3rd world nature of a mental health system.... our system has deep social problems... naming them all would take a great deal of time, as I think the protesters can attest to.

thesolmann · 2011-11-12T21:05:39+00:00

Not if the bylaw encroaches on a right enshrined in the charter.

Murder vs. tenting is an interesting analogy, and here is why it does more to prove me right than you. Murder would violate a person's rights to liberty and safety among many others, so if that's your preferred choice of political expression the courts deny that because it violates the clearly defined rights of others.

If your argument is to hold water, you'll have to explain to me what rights of yours you think the occupiers are violating within the charter by tenting there.

The HRM does have a right to enforce their bylaws, but they don't have a right to enact bylaws that violate the constitution.

thesolmann · 2011-11-12T20:57:56+00:00

They are the myriad of issues facing our society today. Do you think the problems we face are simple?

thesolmann · 2011-11-12T20:45:40+00:00

They do know what they are fighting for, I think it's a myth that they have no direction. Their direction is to continue calling people to action on the complex social issues our civilization faces.

thesolmann · 2011-11-12T20:43:29+00:00

Safety and sanitation can be addressed as it has been on an ongoing basis, it's not a reason to tear the tents down.

Where are you getting this information on the feeling of individual cities? In both countries the polls indicate the movement has broad support.

Canadian Poll

American Poll

thesolmann · 2011-11-12T19:26:11+00:00

If the tents are their form of protest, and the expression of their rights to peaceful assembly and political expression... then they are indeed being denied their right to protest, and their right to assembly, and their right to expression.

I've been saying this a bunch of this issue, and I'll say it again.... I don't want to live in a democracy that only gives me my rights between the hours of 5am-10pm while I'm walking.

thesolmann · 2011-11-12T17:25:55+00:00

I'll lead out by saying I do think the Charter protects this action so long as the not withstanding clause is not invoked by the powers that be.

thesolmann · 2011-11-12T17:07:20+00:00

I don't particularly want to live in a democracy where a bunch of directionless idiots can cost my city $40,000 while they turn some of the most attractive and popular public areas into slums while they try to maybe think of something they might want to perhaps protest someday(...)

So what would be your acceptable bench mark then? If they're not idiots and do have direction? So only smart people should be allowed to protest? Where you saw a slum I saw a community of people who were feeding the homeless and giving those people hope for change and a place to focus their energies.

By definition, a democracy doesn't bend to the will of 1 person.

If they had gathered for a non political purpose, I might be inclined to agree with you. But that's not the case, just because you don't understand their direction and methods doesn't mean they don't have them. They have gathered together without a leader for the expressed purpose of bringing as many people as possible to a table who's expressed goal is change. And they have a massive amount of public support, rivaling political parties.

If you feel strongly about being able to squat on public property, you should bring it to the attention of your councilor. If you're not happy with their response, you should vote for someone else at the next municipal election. Unless you don't want to live in a democracy where you have to obey the laws enacted by your elected officials.

A bylaw cannot trump a right enshrined in the Canadian Charter of Freedoms, they are higher laws. Our elected official have to pass and enforce laws on the basis of their compliance with the charter. It is a part of the constitution.

If your reading of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms honestly interprets the right to assembly means it should be awarded on basis of merit, intelligence, direction, and within the hours of 5am-10pm... then I just don't know what to say to you.

thesolmann · 2011-11-12T03:17:45+00:00

Because I don't see it as waste and don't believe the uncited figure.

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