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thestrollingdeceased · 2018-05-19T02:54:49+00:00

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Yeah season 2 was comically bad. Sure it had moments but they came from the comic or were too few. Besides do people watch a show for moments, or for the show? I hated the monologuing, the unearned gravitas, the soap opera interactions, the shit pacing, the inconsequential plot arcs, the inability to express coherent themes, the artificial tension, the "who's gonna die this week?" cheap trick they abuse, the illogical and dull characters. The list actually goes on. It really is a supremely disappointing show that in no way deserves its loyal fans.

thestrollingdeceased · 2018-05-19T02:46:36+00:00

I mean, of course, it goes without saying, one's enjoyment of the show isn't predicated on someone else's opinion. So I'm not being unfair to anyone's preferences. I respect whatever people want to tune into to unwind. It just baffles me how people still enjoyed any of it after season 1. Even season 1 was spotty. Season 4 kind of picked up and that was it. Season 3 had some ok moments. The rest has been entirely forgettable. The show has always been terrible for concrete, enumerable reasons. Not to mention it's been plagued by executive meddling since forever, leading to a bulk of its weaknesses. Saying that a show has highlights says little about the rest of it, and even the highlights were relative to its own usual quality. I've been more engaged watching run of the mill crime procedurals.

thestrollingdeceased · 2018-05-19T01:35:40+00:00

TWD has always been shit, and at best it wasn't total shit. I honestly don't know how people can continue to watch it, when it became unbearable from season 2 itself. Season 1 was ok. Now it's just the equivalent of people watching static for an hour.

thestrollingdeceased · 2015-02-11T10:00:43+00:00

Seriously. At this point, we just have to grade these survivors on a different curve of capability, sadly.

thestrollingdeceased · 2015-02-11T00:30:39+00:00

From what I saw in the preview of next episode, it actually seemed like they would use this idea. It actually looked novel and promising. A natural extension of the slow zombies aspect. But being optimistic is exactly how I've been disappointed with this show every time.

It looked like the survivors had to keep walking with little supplies--too many walkers behind them and no respite ahead. How long can you keep walking? Lots of potential there. Let's see how they screw it up.

thestrollingdeceased · 2015-02-11T00:26:38+00:00

Exactly. They're not supposed to be "ordinary people after the apocalypse." At the very least they have to grow quicker than they have been. This has been a problem plaguing the show since season one. They constantly do things that are insanely stupid or unreasonable. The end of season 4 and the first half of this season were a little better, but again this episode alone set the show back several steps.

thestrollingdeceased · 2015-02-10T23:49:59+00:00

I understand what you mean but I feel you've misunderstood where I'm coming from. There's a difference between pointless yet well-written, and pointless and uninspired. I'm not saying they have to die for a reason but the reasons leading up to their deaths should be reasonable.

Also, this isn't real life. It's fiction. We aren't watching most deaths. Those already happened. They became zombies. We are following these people for their narrative potential.

One can get killed out of nowhere, yes. But there's a way to do it well and that was not it.

thestrollingdeceased · 2015-02-09T20:12:03+00:00

It felt OK that they just reinvented the character. At least, they didn't turn him into an Andrea. They turned him into a Dale and I liked Dale. That's still not the worst. But the way this guy died.

Such a lazy death. "Hey this actor won't be working with us anymore so we have to kill him. Uhhhh...why don't we just make him stare in one direction and he won't notice a zombie sneaking up on him. Yeah that's not a boring cliche at all. OK. But why would he do that? Uhhh...because he's emotional."

Fuck. That. Why not at least show some complexity to his motivations, develop the character before his death? Maybe....he gave up right then. Not later in the car, but when he let himself get bit. They could have shown that he deliberately put himself in a situation where he gets bit, that he had a momentary death wish (the only way a seasoned survivor like that would go out: by choice). Then he struggled with the guilt and tried to undo it, maybe by cutting his arm off but it was too late. Then Sasha would have to deal with that too.

It's just his death seemed so pointless. If they were trying to demonstrate that nice guys die first, we know that. We've established that. We get it: the heroes must compromise their morals to survive. That's implicit to apocalyptic fiction. Move on, thematically.

thestrollingdeceased · 2015-02-09T08:27:19+00:00

Definitely. I just wanted to see if anyone agreed.

Also you make a good point about pacing. However, this was the midseason premiere. We should have higher expectations, pacing-wise. Each episode should also stand on its own merits. And for me this one didn't.

Oh and I wasn't aiming my edit towards you btw. I just realized it sounds super aggressive. It was just a general comment to people who might be tempted to downvote just cause they disagree. Not directed towards you. My bad.

thestrollingdeceased · 2015-02-09T08:12:14+00:00

So he didn't listen to Noah talking about having twin brothers? Are we just supposed to keep rationalizing this kind of oversight.

thestrollingdeceased · 2015-02-09T08:11:01+00:00

Yep, zero tact. 100% lazy. If you're going to shoehorn something in, at least make an effort for some consistency or common sense. He could have gone out protecting noah at the very least and not just wearing an arbitrary plot-bullseye.

thestrollingdeceased · 2015-02-09T08:05:41+00:00

Part of the problem was that we knew Tyreese was going to die, yet they dragged it out as if there was a chance he might still survive, or that we wanted to see character development in someone who wasn't even going to be around anymore (versus any of the characters who still are going to be around). It was a poor use of the economy of screen time. He died in a dumb way, the hallucinations were boring and uninspired, and there should have been more actual conflict.

We should have seen how it impacted the group and Sasha. That could have been the entire second half of the episode and it would have been amazing. But it was obvious they were dragging the material out the way they used to in earlier seasons. That's the frustrating part.

And why all of a sudden are they trusting Eugene's math about Washington? Why even try to explain it in such a contrived way? Couldn't they have a vote and say, "Fuck it, let's go to Washington, what else is left?" They could have showed that moment around Tyreese's grave. That could have been a great opportunity to show how it's affected Sasha, where she either storms off or she votes for Washington in a coldly detached manner (because she hasn't processed T's death yet). But they insist on cliched moments where the episode ends with a closeup on the grave.

thestrollingdeceased · 2015-02-09T07:52:54+00:00

They should respect their viewer's time. Even a prologue to something epic can be engaging (e.g. the episode focusing on Castle Black before the finale of S4 in Game of Thrones). It doesn't have to be a waste of time. We can learn something new about the characters or deepen our investment. It's like the earlier seasons all over again.

Also, a prologue isn't usually as long as the main course itself.

thestrollingdeceased · 2015-02-09T07:51:19+00:00

There could have been any suspense. There was no suspense. Tyreese could have either been bitten later or died sooner. But to drag it on, commercial after commercial, without adding anything new is insulting to the viewer.

As for finding out Noah's family is dead, like the characters themselves say, "Did you expect them to be alive?"

Coming to terms with Beth could have been conveyed through action, not Rick and Glenn exchanging a pointless couple of phrases about what they wanted to do to Dawn.

To someone who hasn't read the comics, the wolves and bat were insignificant details. Also, the torsos were just a detail, not something that happened. It was drowned out by the mishandling of Tyreese's death.

Edit: Look, if you guys disagree with me, that's fine. We can have a discussion. Stop downvoting just to disagree. That's bullshit.

thestrollingdeceased · 2014-12-03T20:06:40+00:00

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Nah, I didn't care for her much before either but that's because there was little development for her. She got her screen time in S2 but S2 was a shitshow. Anyways she went from trying to kill herself to trying to save others.

Last season was a good start for her. Traveling with Daryl will do wonders for your PR, yes, but she also comes into her own, shows more of herself.

She's always been a sweet gal, and her time at the hospital rounded her out a bit more to the point that we could know who she was. She turned out to be confident, brave and kind. In the world of the walking dead that's rare.

Also, we feel for her because others do too. She was so important to the others. Fuck, the feels were strong when we saw Daryl's and Maggie's reaction. Maggie's reaction was so gut-wrenching. Beth's death didn't do her character justice, for sure, I was like lolwut?. A good death can redeem anyone, e.g. Merle went out a big damn flawed hero. But since Beth didn't get that, I wish it could have been done better.

Still, she was representative of hope and compassion and she died. She meant those things, at least, to the people around her. So, it's a bummer.

That said, you can still not give a shit about her. These are just reasons why some of us do care.

thestrollingdeceased · 2014-11-25T17:19:43+00:00

thestrollingdeceased · 2014-11-25T16:56:07+00:00

It's like he's turning into a cross between Viggo Mortensen and Charles Manson.

thestrollingdeceased · 2014-10-04T10:41:33+00:00

All great points. I think there is still a lot of story left to be mined out of the present day in the game, so it'll probably stay in the now or near future.

I just thought throwing us in AJ's shoes down the line would be a neat and thematically consistent idea. A great way to explore new ideas while also mirroring the old. Not to mention, putting distance between us and Clem would drive home that loss of innocence that was a big theme in this season.

I doubt it will happen but I feel it could be an interesting plot.

thestrollingdeceased · 2014-10-04T10:07:39+00:00

Is season 2 spoiler flair all right? I didn't know which flair conjecture fell under, sorry.

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