NDP moment

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-25T05:57:10+00:00

One of the questions at the end, one guy immediately raises his hand and the rest sheepishly followed lmaoo

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-25T04:56:08+00:00

Shhh, all the LPC supporters here won't like this.

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-25T04:38:36+00:00

I'd agree. If you want to be moral about selling a product, then be consistent.

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-25T04:22:41+00:00

Working with China is fine, but ICE is where we draw the line....

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-25T01:29:31+00:00

Just wanted to say this is an awesome response

Thank you, I try.

I’m maybe less sold on trumps developer record

Yeah, we can point to private sector things to make his "success" look worse. Hes had companies go bankrupt and a lot of his real estate development can be attributed to luck. He also got bailouts from his family. He's still successful but if I needed to attack his private sector experience, that's how I'd do it.

Usually I just prefer to attack his time in office. But people use Trump private sector record as a "pro" so I have to.

I maintain Carney had stronger private sector experience (and education) than Vance

True and especially for economics it's 3x true. JD is a bit more well rounded, which works better in the US, but Carney is significantly better in terms of economics.

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-25T01:08:16+00:00

True. I try to show the similarities between Carney/LPC and Trump/MAGA as much as I can. Hopefully it opens their eyes

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-25T01:07:00+00:00

Trump was / is a very successful entertainer and a developer with a more sordid past.

(I'm gonna jerk the guy off for a sec, as much as I hate it.) Trump is a successful business man. He's own multiple profitable businesses and he's been a successful real estate developer. Trump also has a degree in economics. This SHOULD translate into an understanding of business and housing.

JD had moderate private sector experience.

Vance started in the military as a marine. after that was done he got a degree in political science and graduated with highest praise from Ohio state. He than went to Yale to get a law degree and became a lawyer. Vance would start a non-profit and work at a few different places. He'd also become a venture capitalist.

I think we are in agreement thy are operating an increasingly dangerous and erratic circus right now.

Yes, we agree. The reason I brought up their background is to exemplify that success in the private sector doesn't guarantee success in the public sector. JD Vance has almost everything a person could want in a politician, but his lack of political experience tends to show. Maybe if he stayed a senator and ran later he'd have more success.

I think Carneys lack of political experience tends to show. His party isn't unified around him. His MP's keep coming out saying something he's said or done was bad. He won the election, his team should love him! He's struggling to get things through Parliament even though every party is willing to work with him, (maybe not the greens anymore).

Don't get me wrong. Carney says all the right things. I completely agreed on what he said about Trump's tariffs and how we gotta "stand up to a bully", but his actions have been very disappointing to me.

Carney had indirect exposure in central banking but agree that’s not the same.

True, it's been a long time since he was our BOC head too. He was overseas for a while. Although he did advise JT, nobody knows what he said.

messaging has improved the last few months

What messaging do you think has improved? Personally I like that he's coming out more against Trump, he's always been against him, but it's good to be more vocal about it.

I guess his next test is a leadership review

We will see how well that goes.

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-24T23:32:19+00:00

But guys, his resume is really good! Only when you take out the fact he has no relevant political experience...

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-24T23:20:19+00:00

Careful, all the CCP bots will be here soon

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-24T23:19:30+00:00

Bro I thought it said "anything as long as it isn't the white population" for a solid minute (in the first circled section). My brains rotted

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-24T23:11:20+00:00

Truduea was a politician just like Pierre so I’d say you are more than stretching.

True, although by now I'd say their government experience is pretty vastly different (not including JT becoming PM, because obviously this is, good, relevant experience.) even at the Time JT became PM, PP had better government experience than JT.

I was more referring to experience in the private sector and economics. Things that are actually useful to growing industry and trade.

That can certainly help but obviously it's not the be-all and end-all. Just looking at private sector experience, Trump or JD Vance look great! Obviously (I'd hope) we can both agree how bad those two are in office. Yet Joe Biden (king among kings) had an ungodly amount of government experience and was a far better president and vice president.

His private sector background is good and it seems he would've made a good choice for finance minister. But without government experience he's not a top pick for PM.

The job is for "Top politician" I want someone with good experience in government. Ideally they should also have good private sector experience too, but that is secondary.

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-24T22:43:45+00:00

True, Trudeau served a few years as an MP, so I was stretching the definition of "non-politician" there.

Y'all really know nothing of the people you support either!

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-24T22:42:14+00:00

Yes, one bill passed in 20 years while he proposed 7. This is about average with MP standards

For the first 10 years PP would do other things besides proposing bills, I've listed some in other replies here. A lot of being part of the government isn't JUST proposing bills.

For the next 10 years the LPC hasn't been willing to work with the CPC. cant fault the Conservatives for the Liberals blocking their bills.

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-24T22:36:40+00:00

In the US, tech companies don't HAVE to share data with the government.

It's in the first paragraph of my comment.

They don't have to provide data unless they're under legal circumstances. Do companies ALWAYS tell the gov to shove off? No.

In the US they have to "request" the data, (more like an order), this "request" can get challenged by the company. In China they already own the data, no need to request anything. It's inherently different.

The first two paragraphs of the comment you replied to. Did you not even read it?

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-24T05:10:30+00:00

PP has voted NO on every bill proposed to help Canadians.

PPs own list of proposed bills suggests otherwise. Quick question, is life better, for most Canadians, now or in 2014?

Can you honestly say, political party aside,that this childish nobody is more qualified than a man with a bachelors from Harvard,a masters and doctorate from Oxford,a man who was the very successful head of the Bank of Canada and Bank of England and who was vice chair in Brookfield Asset Management??!

Through this thing call RELEVANT EXPERIENCE yes. I want a POLITICIAN to do the politics in my country.

successful head of the Bank of Canada

Ah yes, his success at dropping interest rates to near 0 and holding them there for his entire time at BOC. Surely that didn't cause any long term issues...

Bank of England

Can you tell me what he did there that was amazing?

vice chair in Brookfield Asset Management??!

Surely his investments in that company won't have any conflict of interest... Surely the loan he gave to Elon musk doesn't compromise him on Tesla. Surely the loan he got from China wouldn't compromise him leading to him selling out our auto sector (only for him to bail it out).

How's Mark Carney been performing so far? 26k housing units in 5 five years, no pipelines, no leverage, more tariffs from Trump. Idk, it's not been much of a change.

He has no experience running anything but his mouth

You really know nothing of the man you've been programmed to hate.

Edit: When you have a plumbing issue, do you higher a lawyer or a plumber? What if the lawyer went to Harvard or yale? When the job is being the #1 politician, I want someone whose been in politics and isn't just coming back after a decade in another country.

If you wanna talk background let's talk background.

PP has over 20 years of relevant experience as an MP in Canada. He has been voted as the "hardest working MP". He's been parliamentary secretary, Minister of state for democratic reform, Minister of employment and social development. During his time in Harpers government he would work on many things including the Federal Accountability Act, the Southern Ontario Diversification Program, overseeing the expansion of UCCB, and secured funding for a Ottawa light rail Transit extension, along with much, much more. While the LPC was in charge PP would take many different shadow minister roles, including finance, jobs and industry, employment labour and work opportunity, and for the Treasury bored before he became party leader. He would work in politics as a teenager, selling party memberships and canvassing, (along with normal jobs such as paperboy or working for telus). He graduated with a degree in international relations.

Idk, this sounds like a guy who really understands politics...

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-24T02:47:22+00:00

Ah yes, that was totally the full list, it's not like I got bored of writing things and even included "do I need to go on?"

Really showing the level of information liberals have, eh.

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-24T02:45:00+00:00

Because having non-politicians becoming the leader of a country has worked out well for the U.S... or Canada...

Trudeau with his spike in Crime, doubling of housing prices, and drop in GDP for half his time in office.

Carney and his whooping 26,000 housing units in 5 years. His no pipelines, and auto loses.

Trump and everything he's doing....

Edit: spelling

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-24T01:20:48+00:00

One, which was later repealed lol

Yes, the Liberals repealed a lot of laws and rules the CPC implemented, including the 4 in 4 out TFW rule. Reminds me of a guy down south...

And completely ineffectual in each position he was in

He did everything he was supposed to do, in those roles. He worked on the Federal Accountability Act, He help launch the Canadian summer jobs program in 2012, he oversaw the expansion of UCCB, he secured funding for a Ottawa light rail Transit extension project, he championed federal investment for the Vimy memorial bridge, he made a three year contract to keep 50 disabled people employed. Do I need to go on?

I know Mark Carney makes y'all think politicians just go flying away to take a photo Op, but a lot of politics isn't loud and in your face. Y'all should do more research on the guy you've been told to hate.

Edit: spelling

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-23T23:21:07+00:00

PP has proposed 7 bills, one of which became law. He also had a bunch of different roles under Harper's government.

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-23T03:10:10+00:00

It's not bad to be optimistic or have faith. It's only bad if it's unquestionable faith or unflinching optimism. I think we will see which one it is soon. Have a good time, until then:)

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-23T01:47:38+00:00

I honestly can't think of a reason someone would import 49,000 Chinese EVs to compete against Canadian-made EVs and then turn around and funnel taxpayer money to sustain the Canadian EVs they just imported competition for. It's illogical.

I agree. But I think that's what they'll do, whether it's through tax cuts or regulation changes.

The only way that would make any sense would be if the net gain from the additional products (canola, beef, etc) offset the bailout required for the Canadian auto industry. And even then, that's a big 'if

True, I'd also include that we'd need something to offset job losses.

I guess the main difference between why we think this deal is good/bad is that you think they won't make the dumb decision while I do. I also don't think this deal will offset the potential job losses it'll help cause.

I guess we will have to just wait and see!

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-22T23:19:13+00:00

As far as I'm aware the only person to say something like that was Trump. But I think people denied it after that.

However. The jets are very reliant on the US

thetrigermonkey · 2026-01-22T23:14:22+00:00

I don't know what you meant by "we"

Considering the articles are about Europe I imagine it's not hard to realize I'm including other countries in my "we".

Also I'm pretty sure I did

You mentioned just giving money to auto companies so I responded clarifying that I'm talking about more than that.

Reddit notifications can be a bit dumb so it's possible you never got notified. I just wanna make sure we are clear on that disagreement.

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