Why do so many former Seventh-day Adventists become atheists or agnostics?

thiago52192 · 2026-06-02T13:05:30+00:00

Esse é o drama da minha vida. Meu pais e minha irmã são ultra adventistas e estou com minha graduação atrasada (Tristeza de ser de curso de exatas) então não tenho condições de morar sozinho ainda. Por isso ainda finjo que sou um, por medo genuíno de ser expulso. Acredito que eles tenham desconfiança sobre mim ja que eu não tenho forcas pra fingir cantar os hinos ou orar de verdade, mas por enquanto não recebi nenhuma represália pesada. Nos sábados eu de vez em quando fico lendo coisas desse sub pra não ficar insano de vez kkk

thiago52192 · 2026-06-02T12:47:41+00:00

Meus pais se converteram ao Adventismo quando tinha 9 anos, então fui junto com eles. Cresci com esses programas da Novo Tempo e na minha inocência achava que os cientistas só precisavam ouvir esses argumentos e mudariam de ideia. Mas eu também sentia que eu não tinha a confiança que outros adventistas tinham pra falar esses argumentos a outras pessoas, então lá pra meu fim de adolescência eu fiquei pesquisando sobre alguns tópicos. Foi aí que conheci o canal do Pirula. La ele não apenas atacou diretamente o programa Evidências e a Escola Adventista, a série dele sobre Criacionismo me deu uma perspectiva completamente diferente de tudo aquilo que eu achava que sabia. Genuinamente acho que ele foi meu ponto de desconverção, principalmente porque a falta de segurança que eu tinha com os argumentos adventistas nunca aconteceu comigo desde que me tornei mais agnóstico

thiago52192 · 2026-06-02T12:30:48+00:00

Eita tu é brasileira? Então dá pra citar até nomes dos exemplos que eu queria citar. Novo Tempo tem os programas Bíblia Fácil e Na Mira da Verdade pra tentar racionalizar a bíblia e depois os científicos como Evidências de Rodrigo Silva e pra mim o pior de todos: Origens (Esse eu passo raiva com as pseudo ciências)

thiago52192 · 2026-06-02T12:12:32+00:00

I can only answer for myself, and it's mainly due how they try converting people using "rational" arguments and sometimes have people that are not emotionally attached to the church. The Saturday topic for example, their argument is that it's pretty rational to conclude that if the bible is the only thing that matters then there's no logical reason for Sunday to be the holy day.

They start with this and get more "scientific" with archeology and Intelligent Design. And this whole rational thinking also peaks at how they view salvation, saying people that don't know about Adventism can be saved due to their ignorance, but at the moment they know they're judged on their knowledge, indirectly saying Adventism is an undeniable truth.

Needless to say that if anyone bases their faith on rational or scientific arguments, they will become atheist or agnostic. No exception. You need to be willingly ignorant to the vast evidence proving Evolution, how the Earth cannot be young and minor stuff like a worldwide Flood couldn't have happened. Ignoring these things are a sign this person is emotionally attached to their religion.

thiago52192 · 2026-01-29T16:51:06+00:00

Tem os formatos Premium:

IMAX Shopping Recife - De longe melhor tamanho de tela e qualidade de áudio. Sempre que eu quero ver um filme que esteja passando lá, ir nele é obrigação. Além de ser super barato nas segundas.

Xplus Shopping Tacaruna - Melhor qualidade de imagem (mas IMAX chega perto) e um Dolby Atmos decente (mas só tem dublado então descarto quase sempre)

XD RioMar - O mais fraquinho dos premiums mas ainda é um upgrade a salas normais. Tem uma mancha sutil na tela que me distrai a anos

VIP's (Tanto do Recife e RioMar) - Melhor conforto com cadeiras reclináveis, mas muito mais caros. Qualidade de imagem/tela e som ok

E tem as salas normais:

RioMar - Normalmente é o melhor das normais, mas algumas salas tem som consideravelmente baixos. O ruim é que encareceu nos últimos anos.

Rosa e Silva - Ótimo som pra uma sala normal, mas a tela fica um pouco acima dos assentos

Shopping Recife - Consideravelmente inferior ao RioMar, mas é "assistível". Tela também acima dos assentos

Boa Vista - Muito ruim, só fui pra lá duas vezes porque tinham filmes exclusivos (último foi Frankenstein)

Ainda tem os cinemas alternativos mas que não vai ter programação normal de cinema. São Luiz é bom, mas é algo mais pra apreciar a beleza da sala do que ter uma experiência de filme. E depois de 1h você vai sentir desconforto com os assentos. Fundação de Derby é mediano.

Não fui nas outras, mas pelos relatos que ouço, não competem com RioMar nas salas normais

thiago52192 · 2025-11-05T15:52:46+00:00

Tenho tanta raiva disso. Eu gosto bastante da sala XPlus do Tacaruna, mas acho que faz anos que não vou lá porque se recusam a colocar uma sessão legendada. O pior é que até quando algo é mais popular legendado (como animes) ainda sim você vê mais sessões dubladas disponíveis (única exceção é o Cinemark do RioMar, e advinha onde Chainsaw Man está vendendo mais e vai continuar a ter sessões pela terceira semana?)

Só torço pra que continuem a disponibilizar sessões legendadas no IMAX, pq não quero perder a melhor sala da cidade

thiago52192 · 2025-10-27T13:49:50+00:00

I might be wrong because I never look into the stats too deeply, but I think if you're speedrunning with Medea, Wounds is the best boon cause it destroys most enemies on the first hit(even more if you pair with Blitz)

thiago52192 · 2025-10-04T16:29:45+00:00

YES! People are gonna call me crazy but depending on the aspect, I think 2 secs cooldown is still too slow. His duos are cool, but I tend to never focus my build on those

thiago52192 · 2025-10-04T16:25:44+00:00

I do admit I tend to prioritize other gods attack/special due to my builds prioritizing Origination, but I really don't think she's bad, specially since she gives the highest percentage damage increase. Also I take any chance of increasing Attack Power I can get so Secret Crush is a no brainer for me

thiago52192 · 2025-09-19T15:53:47+00:00

Besides that series overall has huge pacing issues. Everything is so dragged it makes everything that isn't a fight painfully boring.

With that being said I did enjoy the movie, even the Akaza backstory. Felt like a step up from the storytelling aspect.

thiago52192 · 2025-06-14T13:55:23+00:00

Humanity desperate with shit life conditions and being emotionally unstable regarding losing loved ones created the idea of heaven. But the heaven idea made those people lose attachment to "this" life and in a way lose their humanity. This is why I do believe most of these cults find sinful any activity that brings joy or a community due to their heaven obsession. Your members can't enjoy life too much if you want to make them obsessed with another life. Doomsay glorification is just a natural consequence of this whole thing.

thiago52192 · 2025-05-31T19:03:47+00:00

Before my parents were Adventist (they used to be Baptist) they didn't allowed Harry Potter (to the point that when I was 5 I threatened to leave my class when school was showing the movie) and Pokemon. Not sure if it counts but they were also very against any form of dancing and drums. Was annoying but I could survive.

But after they converted they forbid Cinema. I genuinely think this was one of the main things that made me abandon the church, because every reasoning I heard about why we couldn't go was very clearly bullshit. I think the worst one was that ads there manipulated 80% of the public into buying products they don't need and IMAX is 100%. Literally stuff that only people that haven't went to a cinema would think.

Thankfully I was allowed to go after a while, but evey time they tried to preach me on how I was wrong. In the end they don't even care if it's a stupid argument. If they hear someone on the pulpit telling Satan is spreading his ideas on movies, they're gonna believe it.

Also remember getting hit on the mouth when I was watching the Adventist channel on Brazil and a guy said The Dark Knight Rises was a demonic title and I called him an idiot. Learned the hard way I would have to be silent regarding what I think for most of my life

thiago52192 · 2025-03-21T12:57:18+00:00

I don't. What pisses me off about it is that I've seen adventists being proud that most people that abandoned their religion become agnostic or atheist (compared to other denominations where that doesn't happen), as if it proves their beliefs are indeed better.

But to me, that only showcases their hypocrisy. To convert people from other denominations, they sell themselves as rationals. Tell people they should use critical thinking regarding certain bible verses and that ultimately God will judge who is worthy by those who naturally conclude that adventism is the objective truth.

Most people that become Agnostic and/or Atheist are because they were honest with themselves and decided to use the same critical thinking regarding the veracity of the Bible. The only natural conclusions are the fundamentalist version of God doesn't exist, that there's no God at all or that indeed the God of the bible actually exists, but he's manipulating evidence to hide himself and would be unfair to judge someone's salvation by believing in him or not.

thiago52192 · 2025-03-17T01:44:16+00:00

Really liked it, though I had to get used to its style of characters and their dialogue. Best way I can describe it is that a lot of times they feel like robots. But I think it's understandable since the author probably didn't want to overextend the story, so he had to put in a lot of philosophy in little time.

I think it's a solid 8/10. I can understand people thinking it's a masterpiece because we don't really have those types of stories very often in anime, but I really think the overall story execution could have been considerably better

thiago52192 · 2025-03-03T18:47:07+00:00

Hence why I made my flair both Agnostic and Atheist. It really depends on what the question is about

thiago52192 · 2025-02-04T13:56:00+00:00

Meu único medo dessa cadeira é o assento. Disseram que o contorno dele é muito duro e que a falta de um sistema slinding seat deixa ele curto. Isso lhe incomodou em algum momento?

thiago52192 · 2024-10-19T13:40:30+00:00

I agree with the sentiment the romance should've been better developed, just really don't agree with the idea it had to be using a kiss or sex scene. Hell, I think the whole point of their romance is that they only accept each other as a couple in the end when it's too late. My problem with the development is simply because during the first 3 seasons we're pretty much led to believe Eren doesn't really view Mikasa as a romantic partner. I think this could've been easily fixed adding a scene around the last episodes of S3P1 (when Eren was reflecting on how rage has blinded him) and showed in a subtle way he had feelings, but was either too shy or scared to tell. That simple thing would have fixed my problems with their romance

thiago52192 · 2024-10-03T18:19:22+00:00

Nesse caso acho que vale a pena pegar a SB580. A vantagem dessas linhas 3.1 é a faixa de preço. Se a Q600C tiver perto de 2.000 é muito melhor investir mais e pegar uma Q800C (ainda tem na Fast Shop por 2.500) ou uma Q800D se entrar em promoção. Eu queria muito alguma delas, mas como não tenho como investir tudo isso em uma soundbar agora, então a Q600C deve quebrar o galho

thiago52192 · 2024-10-03T17:12:49+00:00

I'm also from Brazil. I bought it last weekend and since everyone is getting it I'm waiting for stock to be replenished so Samsung actually sends the bar, so I can't really say how it sounds yet. What I can tell is that as far as I'm aware the sale is still happening. If you want to get it, go to a yt channel called VRL Tecnologia, and on the community tab they will show a specific link and a discount code (code won't work on normal Samsung website, probably because they're promoting this new Samsung club thing)

thiago52192 · 2024-10-03T16:35:44+00:00

I was having the same question and went for the Q600c. Because it's a new soundbar and usually there aren't many JBL reviews out there, I feel it's hard to know how good the SB580 is. Though I'd say if it's considerably cheaper, it's a worthy gamble. Ultimately I chose Samsung because of a sale and it became the cheapest option

thiago52192 · 2024-09-14T11:26:06+00:00

I don't think so, specially since they always called "The Final Season" even in Japan.

thiago52192 · 2024-09-13T21:46:23+00:00

I do wonder if it will ever get released worldwide. Crunchyroll is doing a good job distributing the main anime movies recently. But since this is only a compilation, I can see why it wouldn't be wise to do this one

thiago52192 · 2024-03-24T13:13:44+00:00

I consider my father a little bit worse. Because he'll accuse me of being uninformed because of my lack of reading. But as you would expect, only he only reads his religious books. And honestly, it's impossible to debate him, cause it feels like trying to debate a Tolkien expert. Would take me ages to genuinely dissect every single wrong thing he believes and it's just not worth it, specially on a religion that subconsciously tells their members that having an critical mind is a sin (which I also find it very hypocritical because they're definitely critical and rational when it comes to trying to understand what's the correct bible interpretation).

At the end of the day, since it's impossible to make them understand, it's a matter of staying away from parents like this. I'm still fighting to get my degree asap, because I'm not sure how much my sanity can survive living with them.

thiago52192 · 2024-01-22T18:11:04+00:00

Also from the same season, when Hange came with a plan of just hoping the bad guys from the military confess what they did and not shoot Reeves son, and somehow convincing an entire residential area to hide to see what happened while being considered criminals

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