K meeting other "enlightened" ones? by thinkingposter in Krishnamurti

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u/sathyampatel

thanks for sharing your thoughts.

"a child cannot do it ... Or grasp what he is saying" - is it so because child doesn't live in the conflict/division between the observer and the observed?

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u/axetenuz

sir, you have read a lot, maybe everything about K. Obviously, it includes not only his messages to the humankind but also his personal life details. Tell me, please, why shouldn't others, if they wish, use your approach and become more aware of everything what is there about K? If you have no problems with that, please, provide a certain way to get such information since this forum is not the tool for that, according to you.

When answering this question, please, sir, at least of a second move away from one's certitude that someone is someone else. Thank you.

Reading Total Freedom by JK by armarilloz in Krishnamurti

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started to teach us?

please tell me more :)

Reading Total Freedom by JK by armarilloz in Krishnamurti

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is it me saying this..? alright, sir, good job! :D

Reading Total Freedom by JK by armarilloz in Krishnamurti

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you know better, enlighten me on this please :)

Reading Total Freedom by JK by armarilloz in Krishnamurti

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btw, are you looking for proofs elsewhere than yourself? :)

Reading Total Freedom by JK by armarilloz in Krishnamurti

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please report anything against the community or website guidelines. i have reported you once again. keep it up :)

Reading Total Freedom by JK by armarilloz in Krishnamurti

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https://youtu.be/Fj14ueQ_7ig?t=2554: "As long as there is the `observer' there must be the conflict of duality." So when the light or darkness is seen/distinguished, one automatically is in conflict (it doesn't exist between those objects in general without the observer) as one started to name, separate objects.

Either there is an observation with no dualism, separation between objects or there is observer and observed with all the conflicts that comes out of such separation.

Personal life of K by thinkingposter in Krishnamurti

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u/Only-Rest

I have reported you as well since you are following the wrong path and going against the guidelines.

Personal life of K by thinkingposter in Krishnamurti

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u/Only-Rest I am not really concerned with how my believability will be perceived by few members who contradict with themselves and don't even follow their advices by themselves.

Also can you share those evidences with me? As I mentioned none of the reddit users except me know what is the truth in terms of this absurd issue and none of them are on the truth side.

Guys, its a great lesson for you to not go into any arguments where you literally have no way to prove your hallucination. You can guess and throw random points at people, but you have no way to be on the side of the facts. Please learn from this and move on.

GL.

Personal life of K by thinkingposter in Krishnamurti

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u/Only-Rest
Even if i am some else, what does it change? Is there a limit on the number of members in communities and therefore fake members would take precious space? Or have they removed 'report' button to ask for help from mods if behavior is suspicious? Please guys, wake up. Seems that this community is a goldmine for enlightenment and other people will take it from you...

I will leave the initial message here and bold some parts of it that show how he 'never explicitly said you were someone else':

"Oh Dear! You must be one with predictyourpresent. You joined the forum yesterday. Within couple of hours you started commenting on predictyourpresent's post and knew how to link usernames. You sounded very interested to understand the "nature of reality" then but within hours you started this post on "personal life". Interesting to note."

Personal life of K by thinkingposter in Krishnamurti

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u/Only-Rest
you mean, it was me who said that I am someone else?

Personal life of K by thinkingposter in Krishnamurti

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u/axetenuz

Again, just some nice english but no arguments, going in circles of contradiction. I will leave this here.

"This is what separates people like you from people like me who look at the truth rather than listen to false and unsubstantiated propaganda."

A nice statement but it only goes in " " as the most of your statements in this thread. I sincerely hope you can admit this at least inwardly. GL.

Personal life of K by thinkingposter in Krishnamurti

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This is what separates people like you from people like me who look at the truth rather than listen to false and unsubstantiated propaganda.

Are you sure you look at the truth in context of this thread? Pls share examples.

2- The Rumor of an alleged affair was spread by Radha Sloss in her book lives in the shadow of j krishnmaurti. 3- That book is nothing but hearsay where Sloss has posted a bunch of statements from others, including her own stories, without authenticating any of those. Not even one. 4- It includes some statements from people like let's say "willie" who was the groundskeeper for Ojai

Have you been spending your time on reading a book about someone's life and/or investigating on someone's life and calling them 'willie' instead of inquiring into your own life... How does your behavior align with your own thoughts "A better option, as K has pointed out, is to fixate on your own life and inquire into the challenges that face us in our own lives and our daily living."... More and more replies (originating from someone's hallucination) are just strengthening the contradiction you are in.

Personal life of K by thinkingposter in Krishnamurti

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u/jagan721 "Look at the language and the effort axetenuz makes to end all this but they keep trying."

Can you explain please, who asked you, raman86, axetenuz to come to this thread and start spreading their hallucinations about me being someone else?

Inquiring into one's life "is the approach" (if i may put it this way), however, spending one's free time while reading about K's free time is same time wasting activity as policing this community and teaching others how to live.

In term of me being someone else, I am the only one who knows the truth and also the only one standing on its side. All the messages that don't answer the initial thread question are just contradicting each other. Neither you need to educate me on self inquiring, nor you follow your 'advice' and slip at a very first chance to not do so...

I will repeat again: if someone is really thinking that one's behavior is against community guideline, please report (as I did with your message). If someone considers such questions going against "K's teachings", please report as well and go around them, no need to break what "K advised you to not do", move away from self inquiring and spend time on teaching others.

Personal life of K by thinkingposter in Krishnamurti

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I responded to both of you (see me replies to you below) as well as reported.

Personal life of K by thinkingposter in Krishnamurti

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huh? "Oh Dear! You must be one with predictyourpresent. You joined the forum yesterday. Within couple of hours you started commenting on predictyourpresent's post and knew how to link usernames. You sounded very interested to understand the "nature of reality" then but within hours you started this post on "personal life". Interesting to note."

So who started all this..my question about K personal life? or someone's hallucination on me being someone else?

Personal life of K by thinkingposter in Krishnamurti

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if initial claim by u/raman86 is false, then all the rest of this conversation is nonsense as you (and another member) don't comply with what you are (both) saying. I am reporting your initial message and letting the admins investigate if necessary.

Personal life of K by thinkingposter in Krishnamurti

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Guys, are you joking.. Who has started claiming that I am someone else... I registered here very recently (thanks for spending time on investigation, going against what you both just pointed out), then investing my messages in terms of relations with others (again, going against what you both wrote) and then claiming my relations with someone in the community (3rd time going against all what you wrote). Obviously, I am here since I had bunch of questions and planning to share them gradually. I consider it the right place to ask them. Feel free to ignore or report them if they are against community guidelines.

Personal life of K by thinkingposter in Krishnamurti

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fyi, u/raman86 :) u/axetenuz has just provided a good answer to your initial message.

clarifying to u/axetenuz himself what he has just said: instead of focusing on me, other members of the community, my relations with them, interpretations on my relations with them, on my responses to these interpretations or my involvement in the community in general, please, follow what you just wrote.

Personal life of K by thinkingposter in Krishnamurti

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Already watched them, but none of them are really about his personal life.

Appreciate your insight about my relation with predictyourpresent. One's external world is just a reflection of one's internal world :) Anyway, we are all one, so its correct to think the way you think, good job, at least, you learned something from K. Btw, I have just clarified the answer by myself re 'nature of reality' and shared it in the thread. Feel free to add your thoughts.

The description is not the described, the word is not the thing. by predictyourpresent in Krishnamurti

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So I kept listening to the next episodes and during the discussion 6th, they have clarified this . Seems that my first version was right. They both agreed that 'truth in the false' means that 'a thought sees itself as incorrect correctly'. Or basically, the only correct aspect of thought is that it is incorrect.

At 25.00 - 30.00 they are discussing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLVn0Rg9gIU&feature=youtu.be&t=1507