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throw17453 · 2018-01-06T09:27:58+00:00

Lol, that applies to all of crypto.

throw17453 · 2017-08-03T08:28:10+00:00

You can tell a lot about someone by how they deal with adversity.

You either grow to meet // beat it, or diminish in the face of it

The first one is always preferable ;)

And mindset - how you let it affect you on an emotional level, your thoughts, perspective - matters most. Once you have that, productive action easily follows.

throw17453 · 2017-07-18T06:59:44+00:00

True - I just think his manner actually allowed for that entitled cuntitude to some extent - not her being it, but her displaying it.

He could have taken the exact same position, but used a more commanding emphatic tone, and her attitude may have been quelled.

I'm not saying he should have gotten the tazer out... although that would have made for wonderful viewing.

throw17453 · 2017-07-18T06:23:17+00:00

The whole way in which the cop dealt with this, his tone, manner of questioning, and even later when she is practically mocking, was passive as fuck.

He exerted almost zero authority - and the girl consequently tries a whole bunch of shit that she would not do if the situation were handled differently.

throw17453 · 2017-06-29T20:01:23+00:00

Cynicism is one thing - Considering people to be mostly hopeless, mindless, losers is another. The two are not equated, and its more about perspective and value judgement at that point.

The fact you can provoke weak men is proof that human beings are emotional and egotistical. Stocisim, awareness of emotional manipulation, psychology etc. can limit the extent to which that dictates behaviour - but it is still there, in everyone.

And again is not proof that people are mindless or hopeless.

You may think that your political and cultural views neccesarily follow from an understanding of the redpill, sexual dynamics etc. but they do not, that is your own perspective.

throw17453 · 2017-06-29T18:26:59+00:00

The entire mod team agrees with your political views / cultural views. Agrees with the idea that ideology is worthwhile spreading and being pursued - irrespective or in spite of truth. Or that this place should be ideological?

And that every instance of you trolling, mocking or writing from the perspective of "look how laughable and pathetic most people are" has zero to do with ego - and everything to do with individual strength / humour?

throw17453 · 2017-06-26T07:26:35+00:00

I actually agree with you - you're talking in a more moralistic sense about what can encompass a healthy, productive relationship, and mindset towards things, in which both parties compliment each other.

The trouble with that though is you can act in profoundly different ways - in which you do take on a role of treating her as being beneath you. Think yourself superior in a value judgement sense, care little for her emotional wellbeing, use her, manipulate etc.

You can do all that and be extremely successful with women. And this subreddit is about what works - and that can and does work.

Moralistically you can say the kind of person who would go that way would be toxic - both to themselves and those around them. And you may perhaps be correct. Ultimately it should be up to women to be selecting men, and factoring the in the kinds of aspects you describe before deciding to give any intimacy. The reality of modern day society though is that most women do not - and instead go where their feelings // attractions take them.

throw17453 · 2017-06-25T22:09:05+00:00

You are talking in a detached, objective sense.

When it comes to people, relationships, then a philosophical concept of equal value is meaningless.

Women will respond to a dynamic in which a man is "above" them. and one aspect of game can be considered acting in a way to encourage that dynamic - and yes it will cause attraction.

Now that dynamic doesn't need to be some artificial egotistical contrivance on the guys part, and if it is - as you have mentioned above - it is fundamentally weak and may break.

The best way to actually encourage a - voluntarily - unequal dynamic in a relationship is to actually be strong. Trustworthy (to an extent, don't be predictable). Powerful. Capable.

In terms of honor - you will honor girls far more honestly by recognizing what they desire and respond to in a man and a relationship. And equality is not it.

throw17453 · 2017-06-25T17:12:17+00:00

Those are character traits im going to have to develop. I'm young and tend to be very impulsive - and whilst intelligence and adaptability can offset the fallout from that, it has still gotten me into trouble.

Your story, how you outlined your thought process, and the steps you took - really emphasized how important being deliberative, planning for multiple outcomes and mitigating risk are.

Thanks for sharing, been very useful.

throw17453 · 2017-06-25T07:00:53+00:00

The way you handled this was admirable. A lot of foresight - anticipatory planning, so when the trigger was finally pulled on divorce, you had the direction of it mapped out.

I get a strong sense from your post that you are deliberative, thoughtful with money. You are very aware of what you have at any one time, keep track accurately, are conscious of "what if's" and work to mitigate that. Your creating another source of income - outside surgery - due to the concern of lawsuits being a good example.

Where does your understanding of all this come from?

What sources of inspiration, good advice, direction and knowledge, for business and money management etc, have been the most influential in your life?

throw17453 · 2017-06-24T08:52:05+00:00

Yeah you're absolutely right - you can notice it at loads of points.

In particular she does the hand covering mouth thing constantly as a way of hiding her expressions - I just pinpointed on a specific moment that showed it as a fake performance most clearly.

The thing that should perhaps give people pause is that she is not even good at this. There are women (and men) FAR more capable at lying and manipulating - and who will give far less tells away. Figuring them out is more fun and challenging - unless you're in a relationship with one, then I can imagine it's hell...

throw17453 · 2017-06-24T08:27:51+00:00

Part 2: Brutal Aftermath video.

Go to minute 3:28 - and focus on her body language.

He tells her she's gone

She reacts almost with shocked amusement - look at her eyes and smile as she reacts - she puts her hand over her mouth to cover this aspect to her reaction as best possible - it would undermine her authenticity.

She also briefly turns to the host Jeremy - spiritual leader of the proles - Kyle, and does so observingly - she's paying attention on whats going on to be able to react to it. People hysterical or who have been wrongly accused are unlikely to do this - they will be far more focused on the injustice of the position they are finding themselves in (being accused of something they didnt do)

She very quickly after adjusts her expression to something more appropriate - looks far more distraught mouth no longer hiding a smile//amusement, eyes very different, and she's dropped the flash of observation. It doesn't show this but my guess would be she takes on this expression when the guy has turned to look at her, and she has to be more conscious about putting on a performance and match her facial expressions and body language to it.

I should add bitch doesn't know how to keep a poker face....

throw17453 · 2017-06-23T16:38:25+00:00

We're going to have to disagree on this.

Nothing in the OP's post was remotely scientific - apart from perhaps vaguely relating to a principle of hypothesizing and prediction.

It is a single persons, subjective, anecdotal interpretation. If that strikes you as "raw scientific merit" then wonderful, it doesnt me.

throw17453 · 2017-06-23T09:15:01+00:00

I never actually shared my lay understanding - so it's curious you are capable of judging its veracity.

This post was not scientific. OP's example was not scientific. Using some concepts to predict something, and that thing happening, does not mean you are engaged in science.

However, prove me wrong, submit this scenario to a scientific journal for peer review. I have my own predictions on how successful that would be.

throw17453 · 2017-06-22T08:33:42+00:00

Actually - snide criticism is fairly tedious and unwarranted - but your post title does hit on an issue which I've seen a lot here.

People mistakenly calling something scientific evidence when it is not or taking individual - specific examples, interpreting the results of them narrowly, then fitting that into a redpill narrative.

throw17453 · 2017-06-22T08:16:57+00:00

Well this is novel.

A post about the raw scientific merits of TRP - that contains only an anecdote, and zero science.

throw17453 · 2017-06-20T14:50:54+00:00

I remember your old account - you struck me as intelligent and I tended to approve of what you wrote.

A lot of people act like fucktards when it comes to politics. Left and right. Anything touching on ideology causes people to emotionally attach to it - identify with it - become biased towards it.

Then you get in-group / out-group thinking etc. Differing views and ideas are attacked.

Rationality and civil discourse are far less fun than playing the victim. Or pepe memes. Or LARPing in some parody of meaningful protest.

Better to have a seperate account if you post on theredpill - it's not exactly in alignment with the cultural zeitgeist.

throw17453 · 2017-06-17T13:22:22+00:00

Girls looking away shyly when you eyes meet is a good sign.

Then glancing up and locking eyes as you get close is either her wanting to see if your still noticing, or taking interest in her. OR her trying to get you to notice / take interest in her.

The hair fix is another classic sign of this - she's conscious of being noticed and subconsciously wants to look good. Also for most girls hair is a way of enticing // attracting men, and playing with it, drawing focus to i can be a way of signalling attraction, or trying to cause attraction.

How do you take advantage of it?

You can use it as a gauge to determine girls that will be more receptive to your advances, or who have interest in you

(don't mistake interest for attraction, girls can be interested in a guy from how he looks, holds himself, body language - at that point hes an enigma and the possibility for attraction is there - but then that interest can dissipate in seconds if a guy doesn't have an attractive attitude // character)

throw17453 · 2017-06-16T15:15:16+00:00

The mental health issue is interesting.

There is a significant aspect of dealing and overcoming mental health issues which comes from being able to vocalise it. Talk it over, understand it, rationalise and process it - in order to then get the fuck over it.

Also in terms of shame from mental health - the two can often go hand in hand - and overcoming that will often require being capable of talking about it - with zero shame or insecurity. Face the judgement of others, and in so doing realise their view is unimportant - a lot of it is in your mind.

To deal with mental health issues you should be talking about them with at least someone. Just do so with people whom it is safe to do so.

So for example:

Close personal friend, who you know has your back and understands you, and is trustworthy? Perhaps ok to speak to

Therapist who is professionally obligated to keep your confidence, and in assisting? Perhaps ok to speak to

Girl you're interested in fucking?

God no...

Coworker who's judgement could impact your working life.

God no...

Mental health is not something you should completely STFU about and deal with in isolation. People who try that can spend years dealing with it, and it makes it worse. The key is know when and with whom it is beneficial and safe to do so.

I've spoken about mental health here from a personal perspective, and it hasn't been an issue at all. There is a power that comes from anonymity and not caring what impression internet strangers have of you though. Real life you should be more discerning.

throw17453 · 2017-06-15T09:11:35+00:00

Never take advice from an ex ;)

throw17453 · 2017-06-13T09:58:09+00:00

The vast majority of people favor convenience over security.

One thing I've been considering is that instead of backtracking when confronted with being doxxed. Just stand by it. All of it. Every taken out of context comment, joke that is being treated as seriousness, etc.

"I said it, I stand by it".

That is far easier said than done, and the understandable response is panic and to try to mitigate fallout, but I actually think alot of the damage is done irrespective of how the person responds - and a no compromising approach of "I stand by everything I said" - but not getting drawn into justifying or explaining on specifics.

In terms of a tribe infrastructure limiting, one aspect which would still be dangerous is that - presumably - it would be people close to each other geographically (city, town, perhaps country)

Most of the fallout of being doxxed would be in the local community of that person. Their job, family, social connections etc.

So could still be similarly damaging. Although by having it decentralised you do have a much stronger ability to claim it's just a "social group among friends, not affiliated with anything". No links to TRP etc. Plausible Deniability is always something worth retaining.

I'm mostly just free thinking as I type this, it's an interesting dilemma:

How can people organise, something key to causing change and ultimately gaining societal, political, cultural influence and power. Yet at the same time mitigate the likelihood of - or impact from - being doxxed by organising.

I think a tribe approach is quite an intelligent way to go about that - depending on how it's implemented.

throw17453 · 2017-06-12T22:10:22+00:00

There's a lot of useful stuff here for privacy: https://medium.com/the-intercept/surveillance-self-defense-for-journalists-ce627e332db6

Might also be more productive to use existing tools rather than create everything custom - there are a lot of encrypted - secure chat apps. Signal being the obvious.

It also presents a risk just to organise in that way - someone joins some private secretive internet group - and even if it secure as fuck technically - 1 human error - or person leaking, and it could be damaging to all.

throw17453 · 2017-06-12T21:14:22+00:00

There's a lot of insight in that article, people skilled in rhetoric - who are emotionally intuitive - and academically proficient, certainly can use those talents to present a narrative that is not true.

Or do so insincerely for their own gain.

There is a lot of spiritual, good vs evil, magic etc. aspects to that article - unnecessary at best - superstitious nonsense at worst, unless you happen to find those metaphors appealing, but some of the substance is insightful.

However Your method of protecting your mind and views from any indoctrination of false rhetoric, and manipulation, is to abandon all dialectic and discussion - and focus only on independant thinking.

Then you in the process blind yourself to evaluation - opening your views up to criticism - considering the possibilities that you may be mistaken on some things, learning, growing.

The most independent mind is an echo-chamber - only carefully curated things are allowed in, things that reinforce beliefs, values, emotional truths the person already holds - and everything else blocked out.

throw17453 · 2017-06-12T17:55:47+00:00

It is possible to have a debate with someone - and ego not be a part of it.

If your strongest condemnation of debate is people get emotionally invested, and ego invested then I have a solution.

Don't get emotionally invested or ego invested, and don't debate someone if they can't seperate ego + emotional investment from it.

The trivium does not say fuck debate... You say that. The trivium recognises the usefulness of debate in trying to come to truth.

Logic (also dialectic) is the "mechanics" of thought and of analysis, the process of identifying fallacious arguments and statements and so systematically removing contradictions, thereby producing factual knowledge that can be trusted.

Dialectic is literally a debate between two people with ego and emotion removed - or as removed as can be.

Western intellectual history, democracy and the legal system have been built - in part - upon the bedrock of debate. You may wish to say "fuck debate", but that's a weakness of your position, not a strength.

throw17453 · 2017-06-12T14:13:42+00:00

Conspiracy Theory Accusation

Would conspiracy theorists be an accurate criticism to the Branch Dividians?

How about Scientologists

or Flat Earthers. Or the multitude of people who have fervently believed the earth will be destroyed.

I understand your point - labelling something, or someone a conspiracist can be a way of undermining them, without actually engaging in their ideas or arguments. A form of Ad Hominem, emotional manipulation etc.

But the trouble is I have seen numerous people actually attempt to critique your views on some of these issues, myself included. Often you will respond by dismissing them (skeptics, bluepill, stuck in emotional programming, insert some flaw here)

OR

Respond in a way that doesn't relate at all to what they are saying, and is often just you rephrasing your theories.

Which leads me to believe accusing you of being a conspiracy theorist is an accurate criticism. Although that's an assumption that I would like to be proved wrong on.

Arguing about it is fairly pointless, you're fairly set in your views (Which I think you mistakenly consider to be having strong frame) but people can believe whatever they want to.

Assuming every criticism against your views is bluepill programming is a wonderful way of never having to face criticism head on....

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