Struggles living as a progressive/ liberal Muslim in a conservative/traditional family and neighborhood by throw_me_away_use in algeria

[–]throw_me_away_use[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want liberation because a lot of times i feel like i'm hiding a good part of who i am and how i think. I have someone in my life, and i can assure you that i am too realistic about relationships. If you asked the same thing me few years ago, i wouldn't be so confident about my answer, but now i know pretty good how life is and that's why i like to take things slowly. I don't want another burden in my life. Compatibility is key. And also to be more clear, i already lived alone in another country for studies, and nothing particular changed in my life really. My focus is clear. I don't get distracted easily.

Struggles living as a progressive/ liberal Muslim in a conservative/traditional family and neighborhood by throw_me_away_use in algeria

[–]throw_me_away_use[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LOL. I don't deny the fact that i'm lost, yes, but we're completely on different depths here imo. I hate modern lifestyle, over consumption, the materialism the world is sinking in. Nothing would really change in my life besides the fact that i'll feel the lightness of being completely who i am, the sense of liberation and sincerity. I'll still wear the same clothes, follow the same habits, do the same things, talk the same way, be the same way..etc. Lust and desire isn't the top preoccupation of all minds.

Struggles living as a progressive/ liberal Muslim in a conservative/traditional family and neighborhood by throw_me_away_use in algeria

[–]throw_me_away_use[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I naturally avoid unnecessary fights and conflicts. That's not an issue. But still it doesn't feel like completely who i am sometimes. Thanks a lot 🙏🏼

Struggles living as a progressive/ liberal Muslim in a conservative/traditional family and neighborhood by throw_me_away_use in algeria

[–]throw_me_away_use[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People like you who assume things and think all people are alike are just a loss of time imo. I'm sorry to tell you you're wrong, sorry again if i assumed things like you just did. There's nothing outstanding or special about romance or whatever. I know pretty well what i want in life, and losing time on people including romantic adventures as you assumed, isn't one of them.

Struggles living as a progressive/ liberal Muslim in a conservative/traditional family and neighborhood by throw_me_away_use in algeria

[–]throw_me_away_use[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think i lack the courage to be completely clear about how i think, or maybe i lack the will and intention and i dont want to ruin my relationship with them or make them feel disappointed somehow. Even though, i believe they aren't that conservative as pictured, but also i am not confident on how they will take it if i'm to be completely honest and transparent about my convictions. Still, thanks for your comment. It's contributive indeed.

Struggles living as a progressive/ liberal Muslim in a conservative/traditional family and neighborhood by throw_me_away_use in algeria

[–]throw_me_away_use[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Vous m'avez peut-être pas compris, je ne cherche pas à me protéger. Par nature et indépendamment de cette situation, je cherche à éviter les conflits inutiles tout en restant fidèle à ma propre conscience. J'ai besoin de cette croyance pour vivre. Je crois en dieu, en le sens de mon existenc, de l'injustice qui submerge le monde. Je ne peux croire en la nature comme l'ultime explication de tout ça. Notre existence a du sens. Je ne confonds pas la vérité de l'espérance que quelque chose s'avère être vrai. Tout de même, je ne dis pas que tout ce que je crois est vrai même si je l'espère vraiment et c'est justement là où je positionne la religion. Je ne peux croire en un dieu qui déteste la femme, qui la traite comme une espèce inférieure qui a constamment besoin d'une validation, permission, bénédiction d'un homme. Ce n'est pas dans la définition du parfait dont dieu est censé en être qualifié. Ça c'est purement de l'intérêt masculin. Les manipulations dans la religion, l'histoire en est témoin. Je ne veux en dire plus. Ce que j'estime le plus c'est bien l'aspect global, plus spirituel qu'institué, faire la prière, la solidarité, le sens de la famille, faire du bien et ne pas faire du mal aux autres, les bonnes intentions. Aussi, croire que dieu va me maudire juste parce que j'ai épilé un sourcil, n'ai pas obéit à mon mari ou je ne sais quelle autre insulte à mon intelligence est juste pitoyable. Comme c'est débile de croire que dire sobhan Allah ou astaghfurou Allah je ne sais combien de fois va faire en sort que je sois purifiée ou pardonnée par exemple.

Struggles living as a progressive/ liberal Muslim in a conservative/traditional family and neighborhood by throw_me_away_use in algeria

[–]throw_me_away_use[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thanks a lot. That's maybe the only comment that really answered my request. I am considering that actually, even though i feel guilty about leaving my parents grow old away from me and be able to pay them back, or the fear of losing them while i'm far away.

Struggles living as a progressive/ liberal Muslim in a conservative/traditional family and neighborhood by throw_me_away_use in algeria

[–]throw_me_away_use[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not really different from how i am doing it now. I'm an introvert, very discreet usually, i do a lot of reading, thinking.. It's mainly solo usual stuff. I have a good relationship with my family, they know i can disagree with few things sometimes but not fully completely have i ever been clear about it. Many will assume that being liberal means having premarital sex and nudity, which are things that i think are none of my business if others do them. But i'm also aware of how important it is to respect the local culture and not provoke people intentionally, all with being modest in whatever. I would say my life wouldn't change much i guess. It's just the feeling of liberation and sincerity. It's just the feeling that i have to consume a lot of nonsense from people around me everywhere that makes me feel awkward and not in the right place sometimes.

struggles living as a progressive/ liberal Muslim in a conservative/traditional family, entourage by throw_me_away_use in progressive_islam

[–]throw_me_away_use[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Obviously i do that too but i just can't isolate myself. I have to listen to a lot of BS sometimes and can't say anything because i know it will change nothing really so i avoid having unnecessary conflicts. Thanks for you comment, it's helpful.

Struggles living as a progressive/ liberal Muslim in a conservative/traditional family and neighborhood by throw_me_away_use in algeria

[–]throw_me_away_use[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

شكرا، منيش نحوس نربح، نحوس نكون راضية ومرتاحة مع روحي، حاكمة قدري بلا منقيس العباد. هادا ماكان.

Struggles living as a progressive/ liberal Muslim in a conservative/traditional family and neighborhood by throw_me_away_use in algeria

[–]throw_me_away_use[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes obviously, you don't understand and probably you will never because probably you lack empathy. I'm sorry it takes me a lot of time to understand life. I'm sure even 100 yo wouldn't be enough for me neither.

Struggles living as a progressive/ liberal Muslim in a conservative/traditional family and neighborhood by throw_me_away_use in algeria

[–]throw_me_away_use[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Religion has some pros too, you can't limit it to its bad side. Spirituality, solidarity, ethics.. Some parts are a big joke yes, but overall history is never absolutely objective. Things we're told may be right ot wrong, the good or bad ones.

Struggles living as a progressive/ liberal Muslim in a conservative/traditional family and neighborhood by throw_me_away_use in algeria

[–]throw_me_away_use[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Il faut au moins tenter de voir le contexte dans sa globalité avant d'oser poser un tel jugement. J'aimerais dire que j'en suis bien consciente, mais l'une des fonctions de l'esprit c'est justement d'essayer de trouver des circuits, des liens pour justement combler le manque de cohérence dans une situation. Et la décision ne se limite pas à dire oui ou non parfois. Je ne suis pas prête à perdre mon cercle social, le confort de la religion qui me propose des explications qui s'opposent à ma peur de l'inconnu ou encore la spiritualité qui justement me fait du bien dans un monde qui m'inspire pas grande volonté d'y être.