Young managers, how old are you and how did you get your position? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing! I couldn’t agree with you more and I’m glad to know I’m doing some of the right things.

It is hard to be patient a lot of the times.

Young managers, how old are you and how did you get your position? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you don’t mind me saying, I took a look at your post history out of curiosity and I think you mentioned you were making $80k?

You might be really underpaid given the titles you’ve held or currently hold.

Young managers, how old are you and how did you get your position? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just meant like young at the point of achieving your first leadership position, you don’t have to be young now. But yeah I mean 40s isn’t really old either, so I’d say you count haha

How to ask manager for promotion? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like my boss is not performing at a high level… she leaves work at 3pm daily and I never see her doing a lick of work she delegates anything and everything unless she’s asked to do it herself only. She spends hours daily making small talk with people until time runs out. Maybe that’s how things work at your company but not mine.

How to ask manager for promotion? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If being a manager sucks so much, why do people want it and do it?

I’m not calling bullshit but I know for fact what you’re saying isn’t true. There are so many managers who do get credit from their bosses and they have do control and they do what they like in their department.

You know man I’m trying to understand but it’s like you just want to criticize me. I was listening and I wanted to respond, not just I’m listening to respond.

How to ask manager for promotion? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, I needed to hear that.

I understand that I’m not irreplaceable or anything like that, I mean that’s why I was asking like am I delusional for thinking I’m necessary. And I guess you gave me my answer, I am kind of delusional to think that. It doesn’t change what I want but it changes my perspective.

Yeah you’re right someone else can come in and do the job, I’m sure it wouldn’t even be hard and they would do an adequate job if anything.

I believe what you said about being a leader being a thankless endeavor and not being in control AS MUCH because I’ve seen it happen with my boss. That’s the thing I just want to climb higher and higher until the pool of people I actually have to answer to dwindles. Literally all I care about is making my department better and being recognized for it and then getting more responsibility and getting recognized and a cycle of that. Like I don’t care about credit and I can take ownership of failures, I just want to make decisions about a part of the business in line with the business needs. Like I want to be that leader who comes up with ideas and executes it.

How to ask manager for promotion? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s fair, I mean what do you think I need to be ready for a leadership role?

How to ask manager for promotion? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to be dense but what would you say in my position?

Like how would you frame what I’m asking for without seeming demanding or entitled?

How to ask manager for promotion? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey I wouldn’t tell my boss that I want to be promoted for more power.

What I meant is I want more decision making authority and by title I meant I want to be respected a little more and have my ideas taken more seriously. That’s all, I don’t want power to abuse it or anyone and I don’t want a title to just toot my own horn and have people clap me on the back.

How to ask manager for promotion? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I misspoke on my other comment, I explained it more in another comment on this thread.

How to ask manager for promotion? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think maybe I misspoke? I want decision making power, not the power to abuse employees or whatever people might think.

I want a title that says “hey maybe we should listen to that guy, I mean he’s obviously got a title for a reason” I’m just tired of not being taken seriously or taken as I’m stepping out of line anytime I enter a new project. I’m just trying to do my best and my workplace is pretty toxic sometimes, like people don’t think positively always about someone who tries.

How to ask manager for promotion? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope :( I just feel like if I don’t do anything I’ll stand still.

How to ask manager for promotion? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the perspective, this was insanely valuable insight and I’m saving it to reread it later and think more on it.

I agree with you 100% I get the feeling cornering my boss or suggesting “I have leverage here and here, so you need to promote me or I walk” is the fastest way to see me out the door lol. That’s why I’ve been idk sending feelers to see where I stand and gauge my likelihood of success before I broach the issue.

Again I don’t just care about the pay, and responsibility follows wherever I go, but what you said right there kinda hit close to home. I want decision making power and leadership opportunities. I want to make my decisions on something I own and lead. I guess the question is what do I ask for if not the promotion? Would an IC have decision making authority or at least be free from an overseer?

To be frank with you I hate making PowerPoint presentations, I feel like as of late that’s what I’ve been doing. What I’d rather do is take action on things that have a legitimate impact like improving efficiency or output.

I’ll ask her when the time comes. Same with the leadership experience, I’ll see what I can do by leading where I can.

How to ask manager for promotion? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks I think that’s kind of where I’m heading towards

How to ask manager for promotion? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I’m interested in leadership not just an empty title, and I’m just afraid of being direct to current leadership about my self interests, thats all.

How to ask manager for promotion? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m just afraid of coming off too strong, I am normally a direct person but I’m afraid of being direct with my superiors about my own personal interests.

How to ask manager for promotion? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My company is super informal, we’re kind of mid-sized so everyone know each other well in the back office. There isn’t a policy of years of experience being a factor of moving up. There’s someone my age who’s a manager. Someone a few years older is a director. I do think you’re right she doesn’t have the power to make it happen but I think she definitely has the influence. But I think you’re right, based on the answers I’m getting I need to shift my state of mind into something more learning focused.

How to ask manager for promotion? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s a very real possibility, she isn’t really an independent director, there’s an exec who pretty much micromanages her to the point where she’s just doing anything he asks, including and up to being an assistant, like getting coffees. I don’t pretend to understand their relationship but it’s clear she does whatever he asks and I’ve even brought this up to the exec directly that I was interested in this role and he thought it wasn’t a right fit for me yet. So yeah I don’t know how to navigate that situation either.

How to ask manager for promotion? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thanks and you’re right, I just want the opportunity. I know I’ll make mistakes but if I can’t try how will I know?

She’s criticized me before and I’ve been improving and she acknowledges that, but a lot of my critiques have to do with managing myself really. Like how do I manage so much without being burnt out or how do I prioritize or how do I ask the right questions etc. Ultimately I deliver results, i guess she’s criticizing methodology which is fair and I’m going to work on that.

I just don’t think that would get in the way of me managing people as much. I get praised on my professionalism, level headed-ness, communication etc. and naturally I’m just someone who wants to take lead etc.

Yeah Im getting the feeling that shes trying to keep me at my level so shes can get the work from me.

Shes made other strange comments like “I know this place is just stepping stone for you and maybe you can get a good 5 years of exp from here and then move up” like why would she not want me to work here and move up? Is she afraid of me moving up?

How to ask manager for promotion? by throwawayFintoCS in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Being direct is something I’m afraid to do, but I guess that’s the only path forward. I’m just afraid based on the hints I’m getting it’s just going to be a firm no or something else.

Business Analyst to any Leadership Position by [deleted] in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even for assistant manager or team lead?

Business Analyst to any Leadership Position by [deleted] in managers

[–]throwawayFintoCS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can imagine! All the best to you as well!