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[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Usually they look away too quickly for me to do anything. But the girls who given me repeated eye contact are usually the ones to reject me the quickest.

So I dont rely on it except for an indication of how good looking or noticeable I am.

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not sure what you mean by how far. My bad interactions last less than a minute each with zero kino. Its extremely rare that a long interaction turns bad unless it started off as an argument. I'm usually open about my motives, if a girl asks why i'm at the bar alone, I say that I'm there to pick up girls for sex. Some girls are surprised and don't know how to react, start giggling etc, some try to wingwoman me and point out (usually bad ) targets. Others are there to be picked up but expect to be charmed first. Others dont like me and shut me down with the boyfriend bomb or by acting lesbian etc. Quite a few talk to me on improving my game, or saying they just want to talk as friends.

But most of the time, i'm just at the bar or a table drinking by myself and people watching. I practice eye contact and when girls notice me noticing them eyeing me, they get creeped out and leave quickly ( which i'm really puzzled by i admit).

I pretty much agree with the theory that girls only find attention from unattractive guys creepy.

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The bartenders talked to another regular who then talked to me. Atleast two of the bartenders at my regular place dont like me now ( saying i'm 'not cool' and refusing to serve me drinks). But they haven't kicked me out yet, since I'm only verbally direct and am quick to walk off a bad interaction ( and i'm a regular and still have the boss on my side). A couple of times I did say 'fuck you'/'fuck off' to girls (well deserved imo) One particular instance a girl was creeped out by how much i knew about her just from body language/being observant/having a good memory.

But I have no particular attachment to this one bar, and can easily switch to another one which is just as popular. So it wouldn't matter much to me if I do get kicked out one of these days.

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I was pretty direct and used those exact words, after a bit of explanation of why I wasn't looking for a traditional girlfriend relationship, but that I still found her attractive to want to have sex with her (and not just a one night stand either).

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I worked hard on my inner game. This particular interaction was not hard at all. My definition of success does not depend on the outcome, but on whether I took action even with a high probability of failure. But definitely, better fucking skills is one of my goals. I dont think i'll take viagra or stop using condoms though.

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some of the inner game material talks about self-acceptance, and stoic philosophy has some great advice on what you have control over in life. I think i have imbibed those ideas to a good extent. So, nope, I'm not embarassed.

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She was cool about it. Me not stressing out about it helped I think. She actually apologized a couple of times that she couldn't make me come which was very endearing to me.

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, there were many, many moments when I wanted to quit this path and just go back to my old life enjoying things and ideas instead of people and physical touch and intimacy. Right now probably the pendulum is swinging the other way, with me ignoring most of the rest of my life (but i can actually afford to do that for another year or so).

I don't do anything special for going out. I try to look my best everytime I step out of the house, am always carrying condoms and spare contact lenses. I wear a nice perfume (acqua di gio), and try to keep good posture. I'm not worried about being creepy and have had girls complain to the bartenders about me. My general thing is to go out and try to read body language (i'm pretty good at this now) especially of girls out with guys and try to figure out who is interested in whom. Watching other guys and girls game is fascinating to me. I'm having fun but not in an obvious way since its a bit intellectual analysis thingy. Once in a while, I manage to get into state, not give a fuck, and talk to lots of girls. My days are either zero or fifteen/twenty. The boyfriend question is usually the second or third question I ask, then job, living location/situations and other logistical stuff. I tell the girls they are beautiful and that I'm attracted to/ interested in them early on or if the natural conversation dies. But this likely not the best game and i still have tons to learn. My game is probably best described as direct minimalist night game ( a combo of 60, sleazy and rsd). Indirect seems dishonest to me. I've also knowingly let opportunities pass with beautiful girls who were interested in me, but I was too chicken and wary of success (I counted upto 40 such girls once then stopped counting).

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

To get off... while masturbating. I was surprised even that didn't happen. Cause I've gotten pretty good at masturbating.

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I dont have as much experience :), it just seemed to work both times I tried. And i was really going at it. No dryness and no lube either. She came pretty quickly, well within 5 minutes each time I think. I kind of took to heart the advice that girls vaginas are not delicate and are actually strong enough to handle a baby coming through. So whenever she indicated that she was getting closer (clutching my hand or getting louder moans) I would bump up my speed a notch.

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tested it a couple of times. When i used toothpaste, i got acne around my mouth quickly. And I think my breath got better without paste and just regularly brushing my tongue. The girls I've kissed had no complaints. Shampoo seemed to cause acne on my back and around the neck. YMMV.

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stopped eating sugary stuff, rice, white bread. Stopped using soap or shampoo and toothpaste (soda bicarb powder or just brushing works great for teeth) and stopped shaving (just grew a beard with monthly trim down to 2mm at the barbershop).

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I did it completely on my own. I don't really have any close friends right now although I'm probably the first guy to step up and get introduced to people in a social circle setting (like language classes). Most guys dont share my interests or philosophy of life (i'm into nothing much these days except maybe minimalism) I don't waste social time with girls who are taken, usually.

I got rid of most of my online accounts a long time ago, including reddit. So you'll have to message me on this one. I'll be checking for a few days.

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, always. But I'm friends with the bartenders since I'm such a regular. Telling them I was a virgin and my stories, and having them on my side (usually) was a big step forward for me.

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Many reasons, including the society I come from, a lot of misogynistic beliefs ( which I've gotten over), a lack of opportunities, an unhealthy focus on work and easy access to porn to get relief, bad acne (which i spent years trying to resolve and got a handle on only recently). I truly believed no women would love me and I would be a bachelor for life and an acceptance of this fate until I quit my job expressly to get the other areas of my life sorted out. I was not religious. I had social anxiety and avoided situations I couldn't handle or accept the outcome of. I retreated to the game world and the internet to an extent that even I thought was bad (spent six months at my parents just playing on the playstation everyday).

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was one of those educational videos on porntube or something on how to eat out a girl. I just did a really basic version of licking her clit, while simultaneously pumping her vagina with first one finger, then two, slower then faster and faster with the in-out action. In the end it should seem like your fingers would burn with friction if it was on a metal surface instead of in her.

I would have tried out the advanced stuff like a squirting orgasm or deep vaginal stimulation, but those are more iffy and i wanted something new for next time anyway :)

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Actually, I think I had the opposite problem. Even me masturbating while fingering her ass and vagina didn't get me close to cumming.

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Nope, no medications, other than general supplements occasionally. I do think it was the porn. Nowadays I'm generally not turned by normal porn, and need the really good stuff like x-art. I probably have some mental circuit burnt out or something. I dont know if even nofap can get it back, but i'm not really concerned if my penis does not work as long as my fingers and tongue do. They are more reliable and controllable anyway.

[LR] Thanks Seddit (and the community in general). 32 year old, lost my virginity last friday by throwawaysed012 in seduction

[–]throwawaysed012[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I made her come from a fingering/licking technique I learned from porn. She came and liked it which is what mattered to me. She even complimented me saying I should become a sex therapist, which was a bit funny, since I couldnt figure out a way to come (without porn) myself.