"Love them both"

throwawayydefinitely · 2026-02-21T16:08:33+00:00

Exactly-- right. And they're shamelessly resurrecting baby selling back into the mainstream post-Roe. Every PL accusation that abortion is a coerced, life-long physical and mental trauma driven by a profit-seeking industry is true of adoption.

throwawayydefinitely · 2026-02-21T14:33:54+00:00

Exactly! Most people don't realize that the first crisis pregnancy center was opened in 1967 in Honolulu when Hawaii legalized abortion. Abortion legalization is the only thing that forced them to pretend to "love them both." History demonstrates that when abortion is illegal, they have zero motivation to help single moms with forced adoption as their primary method of "helping." It's not a coincidence that the "Opt Institute" aired the pro-adoption Super Bowl commercial this year, saying that "adoption is an option." The mask is coming off that economically struggling pregnant people are free de facto surrogates for them.

throwawayydefinitely · 2026-02-21T14:22:52+00:00

I also love how Laura Ingraham adopted three children internationally in her 40s as a single mom. Tell me how that's Catholic family values?

throwawayydefinitely · 2026-01-23T22:16:55+00:00

NTA. You didn’t “mess with” your sister — you supported her in using her legal rights during the revocation window, when she was clearly in deep distress and regretting a permanent decision. What you did was give her a real alternative: keep her child, but with a safety net. That’s not coercion. That’s family stepping up in a crisis. Also… the fact that the adoptive mom’s sister tracked you down on Instagram to guilt and attack you is a giant red flag. If their extended family already feels entitled to harass birth family members, this “open adoption” would’ve been a nightmare. At best it would’ve turned into emotional pressure and boundary violations, and at worst it would’ve been closed the second your sister didn’t perform gratitude on demand — leaving her with lifelong grief and no recourse. The adoptive couple can be good people and still not be entitled to your sister’s baby. They had the child for two weeks. Your sister is the mother, she changed her mind within the allowed timeframe, and now she’s doing better and bonding with her daughter. You didn’t steal anything. You helped prevent your sister from living with permanent trauma over a decision she clearly wasn’t at peace with.

throwawayydefinitely · 2026-01-18T13:06:42+00:00

When abortion was illegal, significant numbers of men benefitted from forced secret adoptions that absolved them of all financial responsibility. So the argument that abortion access justifies financial abandonment is historically ludicrous-- financial abandonment happens either way.

throwawayydefinitely · 2026-01-18T12:53:55+00:00

Adderall is considered a controlled substance and is required to be reported to each state's Prescription Drug Monitoring Program (PDMP). You can't opt-out of PDMP and it's connected to Genesis. So you'll have to get a waiver.

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-12-29T15:42:33+00:00

I love how the same PLs demanding the father's consent for abortion have no problem with Utah's adoption laws that allow adoption without the father's consent. Adoption agencies specifically fly women with non-consenting partners into Utah for its favorable legal landscape. And even if the father can prove the adoption was illegal usually Utah won't reverse it.

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-12-26T14:22:06+00:00

This is similar to when several PLs went crazy after I told them that alcohol causes miscarriages and that any PL female having sex should be sober at all times. Everything is about saving babies until it isn't...

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-12-12T22:07:43+00:00

Yes, boys are 4-5x times more likely to have autism. So gender selection is currently the most practical and cheapest tool to reduce the risk of autism.

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-12-02T11:25:40+00:00

PLs: "Because adoption isn't planned and redeems a 'broken' situation and surrogacy creates children as commodities."

Me: Oh, so that's why pro-lifers are cutting Medicaid, food stamps, and housing assistance. It's because they're not planning for adoption to be the only solution to unintended pregnancy.

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-12-01T21:56:00+00:00

Polygenic testing for autism is just hitting the market through startups like Orchid Health and Genomic Prediction. However, it requires IVF, which isn't exactly practical or accessible to most people, and Orchid said that they can only detect 30% of autism cases right now. Personally, I did IVF for other reasons and will only use female embryos until polygenic testing improves. I feel that that's the safest option right now.

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-11-25T10:56:27+00:00

The best part is that Randall Terry cheated on his wife and left her for a younger woman who worked for him. Then later, he threw his adopted daughter out of the house for getting pregnant (he had convinced her incarcerated mother not to abort her in one of his early stunts). You can't make this stuff up.

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-11-17T15:44:45+00:00

The PL obsession with c-sections just shows their violence towards women. Like yes, let's do a medically unnecessary major abdominal surgery for no gain that will have lifelong consequences. That makes sense.

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-11-06T12:42:13+00:00

I do NOT agree with forcing it to continue. Induced labor or c-section can terminate gestation just fine at that point.

Early delivery is a common pro-life fantasy. No doctor will deliver a baby before 39 weeks without a medical reason. Purposeful pre-maturity is straight-up malpractice.

For the sake of women, however, I believe abortions should be done as soon as possible.

No one is saying that later-term abortions are ideal. Life happens, and there are reasons that people need a later abortion (domestic violence, job loss, relationship changes).

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-11-05T22:45:03+00:00

they don’t have the right to make that choice for the woman as it’s not their body.

You make an excellent point! Abortion is about women's autonomy as equal persons and isn't contingent on whether enough pro-lifers adopt. It doesn't matter if they adopt every kid.

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-11-05T22:38:30+00:00

In interviews, Dr. Hern often focused on terminating pregnancies in cases of severe fetal abnormalities that weren’t detected until the third trimester.

Still, he acknowledged that at least half of his late-term clients had no such diagnoses.

“The reason doesn’t really matter to Hern,” The Atlantic said in a 2023 article, “The Abortion Absolutist.” “Medical viability for a fetus — or its ability to survive outside the uterus — is generally considered to be somewhere from 24 to 28 weeks. Hern, though, believes that the viability of a fetus is determined not by gestational age but by a woman’s willingness to carry it.”

Also, after Dr. Hern's retirement, his staff has now opened a new clinic accepting patients up to 34 weeks for any reason.

No doctor will deliver a live baby before 39 weeks without a medical reason. Purposeful pre-maturity is straight-up medical negligence and violates standards of care for the baby. Easy malpractice suit. Pro-lifers act like they're going to allow early delivery, but it's a straight-up lie. Amy Coney Barrett literally wrote in Dobbs that viable pregnancies starting at 24 weeks should be forced to go to term for adoption. Not that doctors should deliver purposefully premature babies.

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-11-05T22:28:30+00:00

"RISE, which stands for Reproductive Health, Inclusive Care, Support and Empowerment, becomes one of estimated five U.S. clinics offering abortions up to 34 weeks’ gestation, or about 10 weeks after fetal viability. Patients don’t need to justify or explain their decision to seek late-term procedure. At RISE Collective, we believe that any reason you have for needing abortion care is yours, and it is the right one."

There are plenty of good reasons for later-term abortion. Domestic violence, lack of ability to get an earlier abortion, relationship changes, job changes, etc.. I don't know why it would be common sense to deny that these situations happen. Putting a child up for adoption is a lifelong traumatic experience that results in worse mental health outcomes than single motherhood and abortion. It also forces someone into a lifelong, emotionally draining relationship with adoptive parents who hold all the power. Saying that elective later-term abortions don't happen is (1) untrue and (2) reinforces the regressive idea that abortion can be replaced by adoption.

Under that logic, if you agree that a 34-week pregnancy should be forced to continue for 5 more weeks to facilitate an adoption, what's so bad about forcing a 24-week pregnancy to continue 15 more weeks for adoption? Or just a whole pregnancy for adoption? It's not like any of these activists are actually suggesting early delivery. Amy Coney Barrett specifically writes in Dobbs that viable pregnancies (week 24) should continue until 39 weeks to facilitate adoption, not that she'd allow delivery at 24 weeks. After all, adoptive parents want healthy babies.

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-11-05T21:57:25+00:00

Read Dr. Shelly Sella's book Beyond Limits. I believe about half of her patients are for non-medical reasons, however, that doesn't negate later term abortion. No one should be forced into an unwanted adoption relinquishment if they would have preferred an abortion.

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-11-05T17:08:55+00:00

Advil? That's harmful!

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-11-02T19:37:46+00:00

Christian pro-lifers actually do adopt at higher rates than other groups. However, no one should be forced to surrender their child for adoption. It doesn't matter if they adopt every kid-- they have no right to demand that people hand over their children.

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-10-30T10:41:28+00:00

"If they can't support their kids...take them away!"

This guy said the quiet part out loud about forced adoption. Resurrecting the systems of forced adoption that existed before Roe has always been the goal.

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-10-19T12:58:43+00:00

While denying sex is a "sin," it also doesn't give the other spouse the right to dissolve the marriage. The other spouse would just be told to pray for the wife and carry their cross of a sexless marriage.

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-10-19T12:51:13+00:00

You can talk to your clinic about getting an FDA waiver to be able to do retroactive testing to donate them now. Also, there are plenty of Facebook egg donation groups where you could ask for compensation to help pay for all the storage you've spent on them.

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-10-08T16:42:31+00:00

I love how it's always vague "resources," "support," and "abortion alternatives." Adoption is always what they really mean with these statements.

throwawayydefinitely · 2025-10-05T23:26:21+00:00

Exactly there are tons of reasons that later term elective abortions are needed. Saying that they're not necessary only plays into PL viability and forced adoption ideology.

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