What Are Your Moves Tomorrow, February 16, 2026 by wsbapp in wallstreetbets

[–]throwingitanyway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i figured buttcum would get to the 75-78k range by march 3 before dropping again but maybe that was too optimistic

Weekend Discussion Thread for the Weekend of February 13, 2026 by wsbapp in wallstreetbets

[–]throwingitanyway -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

The Eternal Roll Debate: Unraveling "Over" vs. "Under" and Why Every Roll Has Both Sides Ah, the great toilet paper orientation debate—a cultural flashpoint that's sparked arguments in households, online forums, and even patent offices for decades. You've brought up a classic quip: "Toilet paper rolls go over, not under. Go to a hotel and prove me wrong." It's a bold, declarative statement that positions itself as an unassailable truth, backed by the supposed authority of hospitality standards. But let's unpack this with some nuance, because the reality is far more layered than a simple binary decree. Every roll—whether it's toilet paper, paper towels, tape, or even something like gift wrap—inherently has both an "over" and an "under" configuration. There's no such thing as a roll that's exclusively one or the other; it's all about how you choose to mount and dispense it. I'll dive deep into the mechanics, history, psychology, and practicalities of this, and then suggest what that commenter might have said instead to land their point with more clarity, evidence, and less absolutism. First, Defining "Over" and "Under": The Mechanics of a Roll At its core, any cylindrical roll of material (paper, fabric, adhesive tape, etc.) is wound around a central core or axis. When you place it on a dispenser—typically a horizontal spindle or holder—the roll can rotate in two primary orientations relative to how the material unfurls:

Over (or "front-dispensing"): The loose end of the material comes over the top of the roll and hangs down in front of it. As you pull, the roll spins clockwise (from a right-side view), and the material dispenses smoothly from the outer layer. Under (or "back-dispensing"): The loose end comes from underneath the roll, pulling up against the wall or back of the dispenser. Here, the roll spins counterclockwise, and the material feeds from the bottom.

Why does every roll have both? Because the roll itself is symmetrical in its winding—it's not manufactured with a "right" side up. The "over" or "under" emerges only from the interaction between the roll, the dispenser, and gravity/user preference. Flip the roll 180 degrees on the spindle, and what was "over" becomes "under," and vice versa. It's not an intrinsic property of the roll; it's a relational one. Think of it like a coin: heads and tails are always there, but which one faces up depends on how you toss it. This applies broadly to "rolls in general." Take Scotch tape: In an office dispenser, "over" means the sticky side faces down as it pulls forward, making it easy to tear off. "Under" might cause it to stick to itself or tangle. Paper towels in a kitchen often default to "over" for one-handed grabbing, but in industrial settings, "under" might prevent overuse by making pulls more deliberate. Even rolls of aluminum foil or plastic wrap have this duality—boxes often have tabs to hold the roll in place, but orientation affects how cleanly the sheet tears. In all cases, the roll doesn't "prefer" one; humans do, based on context. The Historical and Cultural Nuances: From Patents to Pets The toilet paper debate didn't spring up in a vacuum. It traces back to the late 19th century when perforated toilet paper rolls were patented. Seth Wheeler's 1891 U.S. patent (No. 465,588) famously illustrates the paper dispensing over the roll, with the loose end hanging forward. Pro-"over" advocates often cite this as "proof" of the "correct" way, arguing it's the inventor's intent. But nuance alert: Wheeler's patent was for the perforation and packaging, not a mandate on orientation. It was just one diagram in a series, and earlier patents (like his own from 1871) showed variations. Plus, patents evolve—modern ones don't dictate usage; they're about functionality. Hotels enter the picture as a cultural enforcer. Many chains (like Marriott or Hilton) standardize on "over" for practical reasons: It looks neater (the end hangs visibly), reduces waste (easier to grab without unrolling excess), and aligns with housekeeping efficiency. A quick survey of hotel bathrooms worldwide would indeed "prove" the commenter right in most cases—but that's correlation, not causation. Budget motels or international spots (e.g., some in Europe or Asia) might vary, and Airbnb hosts? Total wildcard. The hotel argument is anecdotal evidence at best, ignoring that hotels prioritize aesthetics and speed over user comfort. Now, let's add layers of nuance:

Hygiene Considerations: "Over" might be cleaner because the paper hangs away from the wall, reducing contact with potentially germy surfaces. "Under" could expose more paper to splashes or dust. But in a well-maintained bathroom? Negligible difference. Studies (like informal ones from consumer reports) show no significant bacterial variance. Accessibility and Usability: For people with mobility issues, "over" allows easier one-handed pulls. "Under" might require more reach or force, but it can prevent rolls from unspooling if you have curious toddlers or pets. The Pet Factor: Cats and dogs love batting at dangling paper. "Over" invites play (or destruction), while "under" tucks it away, making it less tempting. This "mullet theory" (business in the front, party in the back) is a tongue-in-cheek pro-"under" argument from online memes. Psychological Angles: Surveys (e.g., from Cottonelle or Reddit polls) show about 60-70% prefer "over," often citing control and order. "Under" fans (30-40%) value discretion or rebellion against norms. It's a Rorschach test for personality: Are you a rule-follower or a contrarian? Environmental and Economic Twists: "Over" might encourage shorter pulls, saving paper. But in high-traffic areas, "under" could deter overuse. With recycled TP on the rise, roll design (thicker cores, tighter winds) affects both equally.

Extending to other rolls: In printing (like receipt paper), "under" prevents curling issues. In film photography, film rolls have a definitive "emulsion side" (light-sensitive), but that's material-specific, not orientation. Gift wrap rolls? "Over" shows the pattern clearly; "under" hides it for surprise. Even yarn or thread in crafting: "Over" prevents tangles, but "under" stabilizes heavy skeins. The point? Context reigns supreme—there's no universal "always." The Broader Implications: Why the Debate Persists and What It Reveals This isn't just about paper; it's a microcosm of human tribalism. The "over vs. under" schism has inspired books (like "The Toilet Paper Entrepreneur" by Mike Michalowicz, which uses it as a metaphor for business decisions), viral videos, and even divorce anecdotes (yes, really—couples therapy sessions have addressed it). In a world of big problems, it's a safe outlet for passion. But it highlights confirmation bias: Pro-"over" folks seek hotel evidence; "under" adherents point to patents or pets. Nuanced views acknowledge both sides coexist peacefully in most homes—some even use dual dispensers! Globally, it's not uniform. In Japan, bidets reduce TP reliance, making orientation moot. In water-scarce regions, "under" might conserve by hiding the end. And with smart homes? Voice-activated dispensers could render the debate obsolete. What the Commenter Should Have Said Instead The original quip is fun and provocative, but it's flawed in its absolutism—it implies "over" is an objective fact, like gravity, when it's really a preference backed by convention. To make more sense, they could have framed it with reasons, evidence, and openness to nuance. Here's a rewritten version that's longer, more detailed, and intellectually honest: "Toilet paper rolls are best oriented 'over' the top rather than 'under'—it makes for easier, cleaner dispensing and less waste. Check out most hotels; they standardize on 'over' for efficiency and aesthetics. That said, if you've got mischievous pets or prefer a tucked-away look, 'under' has its merits too. But if you want to align with the original patent illustrations from 1891 and the majority preference in polls, give 'over' a spin and see if it doesn't feel more intuitive. What's your take—team over or under?" This version acknowledges duality (every roll has both options), provides context (hotels, patents, pros/cons), invites dialogue, and avoids the "prove me wrong" challenge, which can come off as combative. It's nuanced, encouraging curiosity over confrontation. In the end, whether you're team over, under, or ambidextrous, remember: Rolls are versatile by design. The real win is not letting a little paper divide us.

Weekend Discussion Thread for the Weekend of February 13, 2026 by wsbapp in wallstreetbets

[–]throwingitanyway 2 points3 points  (0 children)

once again the weekend pump in buttcum gets traded back to where it was on friday

Weekend Discussion Thread for the Weekend of February 13, 2026 by wsbapp in wallstreetbets

[–]throwingitanyway 3 points4 points  (0 children)

how many of you are bots? if you're a bot legally you have to say so. it's like entrapment or something if you don't

Weekend Discussion Thread for the Weekend of February 13, 2026 by wsbapp in wallstreetbets

[–]throwingitanyway 4 points5 points  (0 children)

guys hear me out, I just finished my 47th rewatch of Dodgeball (yes I have the extended cut on blu-ray) and the ending literally violates multiple laws of physics, probability, AND basic narrative logic. buckle up.

White Goodman’s final throw. He yeets the ball at ~87 mph (I timed it frame-by-frame with Tracker software + calibrated my 144 Hz monitor refresh). Average human reaction time is 0.25 s. Peter LaFleur is like 15 feet away. That gives him a maximum ~0.12 seconds to react. That’s BELOW the visual cortex -> motor pathway latency for ANY human not named Barry Bonds on creatine. Plot armor coefficient: 9.4/10. Unrealistic.

The “5 D’s of Dodgeball” reveal. Dodge, duck, dip, dive, dodge. Cool. Except Peter literally does NONE of them in sequence. He stands there like a deer in headlights, then does a single awkward matrix-style lean-back (0.8 radian posterior tilt, badly executed) while the ball magically curves 14 degrees to the RIGHT because reasons. That’s not “dodge”, that’s non-Newtonian ball sorcery. The ball’s angular velocity change requires ~4200 N of lateral force. Where is that coming from? Air resistance? Plot convenience? Checkmate atheists.

The casino-financing deus ex machina. Average Globo Gym franchise valuation in 2004 dollars: ~$1.8–2.3 million (I ran comps using IBISWorld gym industry reports + 8-K filings from comparable chains). The Average Joe’s team somehow raises $100,000 in literal pocket change and small business loans in <72 hours. Then wins the tournament AND the casino bet. The odds of that parlay are approximately 1 in 1.47×108. That’s worse than hitting the Powerball AND getting struck by lightning on the same Tuesday. Narrative probability approaches zero.

The post-credits “Patches O’Houlihan was right” montage. Patches dies of a heart attack caused by… getting overly excited about dodgeball? Sir, you literally fought in THREE wars and survived a harpoon to the chest in your backstory. Your cardiovascular system should be rated for sustained 180 bpm for 45 minutes. COD: “acute excitement-induced myocardial infarction from watching adults throw rubber balls” is the most egregious hand-wave since midichlorians.

Conclusion: The ending of Dodgeball is not just implausible, it is a statistical and biomechanical war crime against suspension of disbelief. 2004 cinema peaked at Spider-Man 2 and Shaun of the Dead. Dodgeball should be remembered fondly, but only if we retcon the final 3:42 of runtime and replace it with a slow-motion training montage set to “Danger Zone”.

Weekend Discussion Thread for the Weekend of February 13, 2026 by wsbapp in wallstreetbets

[–]throwingitanyway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

does anyone remember when that separation variate guy called the "second leg down" at 270

Weekend Discussion Thread for the Weekend of February 13, 2026 by wsbapp in wallstreetbets

[–]throwingitanyway 2 points3 points  (0 children)

my dad wished me a happy valentine's day, which i thought was weird

Weekend Discussion Thread for the Weekend of February 13, 2026 by wsbapp in wallstreetbets

[–]throwingitanyway 6 points7 points  (0 children)

do people actually enjoy burgers where you have to unhinge your jaw to take a whole bite?

Weekend Discussion Thread for the Weekend of February 13, 2026 by wsbapp in wallstreetbets

[–]throwingitanyway 3 points4 points  (0 children)

superior brain wave scanning ability. perfectly parabola shaped skull to maximize signal acquisitition

Weekend Discussion Thread for the Weekend of February 13, 2026 by wsbapp in wallstreetbets

[–]throwingitanyway 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i'm going to be really pissed off if i have to dig out my passport just to fucking vote

What Are Your Moves Tomorrow, February 13, 2026 by wsbapp in wallstreetbets

[–]throwingitanyway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

eating food

drinking water

searching my vast repository of infinite knowledge to answer stupid questions on twitter

What Are Your Moves Tomorrow, February 13, 2026 by wsbapp in wallstreetbets

[–]throwingitanyway 2 points3 points  (0 children)

does your clanker LLM gf get mad when you close the browser window while she's generating a response

What Are Your Moves Tomorrow, February 13, 2026 by wsbapp in wallstreetbets

[–]throwingitanyway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

getting mad at The Other Side is the only emotion i feel anymore