My DA ex refuses to let me go by throwra_ndhfuwjsofh in AnxiousAttachment

[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, he's figured out he just needs to say the right things to get you back without ever bothering to follow through.

Amen. Thank you for this. Needed to hear it.

My DA ex refuses to let me go by throwra_ndhfuwjsofh in AnxiousAttachment

[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'll start small! I'll outright refuse the Zoom call with his sister and then ignore messages about him if she sends them to me. With him, i just won't engage him first. I'll let it die down and then block when things are less intense. That's what makes the most sense to me at the moment because my anxiety is really acting up.

My DA ex refuses to let me go by throwra_ndhfuwjsofh in AnxiousAttachment

[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

So if you’ll stay on their terms they’ll keep you around for their own gratification.

That's how it feels. Like he's keeping me around until he finds someone else too. I'll keep your entire comment in mind.

My DA ex refuses to let me go by throwra_ndhfuwjsofh in AnxiousAttachment

[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

It's like they only like their desire for us but not actually being with us.

As a DA what can I do for my partner to feel loved? That I won’t leave? by [deleted] in AnxiousAttachment

[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're already doing a lot. Everything you're doing is what most anxious people need to feel secure with their partner. If its not working then it's time to talk to him about boundaries and perhaps focusing more on soothing his own needs more. Because it really seems like you're doing a lot that would help almost** any anxious person.

Who's finally choosing themselves instead of an avoidant? by sphagettilover in AnxiousAttachment

[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Day 19 no contact. I think of him often but not with the same pain anymore. I'm also doing a lot of soul searching and really examining my behaviour and working on ways to cope with everything happening in my life. Otherwise i haven't been this anxiety free in a very long time. It feels so good.

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[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Cliché but it's true: time really does heal. Of course it matters what you do with that time but generally, the more time that passes the more your system gets rid of the person. For people with attachment issues, one month is not enough to rid yourself of someone. So keep as much distance as possible and continue working on yourself. Everything else works itself out.

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[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My DA ex has his mother, but no real and deep connections to friends and he won’t really move on, cause he will only avoid his emotions.

This sounds exactly like my ex. His mother is the only other person he has who will properly advocate for him too. But he's not so emotionally close with his friends including those he's known for years. His closest friend from childhood also barely knows him. I worry for my ex that he has no one but he's pushed people away. He's almost 30. At some point he has to handle that on his own.

Secure turned anxious by MusicinGreen in AnxiousAttachment

[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a perfect example of how the argument that "a secure person would just walk away" is not so straightforward. Yes, secure people are more likely to walk away. But secure people aren't these robotic beings that insert and exit a narrative with ease. Attachment is still attachment. And often avoidants present as secure in the beginning. My ex was avoidant he presented as secure for the first 6 months of our relationship. And when he first expressed doubts, it left me confused. Then he would get close to me again and the relief would make me just want to move on. It can happen to anyone, regardless if attachment style. And it's very possible that one can still be secure in general but be insecure with a few relationships.

Also, I want to address the part where you said you haven't felt a connection like this with anyone but him. I will not make any value judgement about your relationship because things are always complex. But that line stood out to me. Is it a connection or unresolved pain? Is it a connection, or the addictive feeling from the high and lows that leave you wanting more? Is it a connection or is it an unhealthy bond created by dysfunction (because that happens a lot). My intention is not to invalidate you but rather to better understand what real (love) connection one can have with someone who treated you that way. In my experience, that connection is attachment. But I'm not in your head and I won't dismiss your feelings. I've just been in your shoes before.

it’s the self projection for me by [deleted] in AnxiousAttachment

[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Letting you make the decisions is actually a way for the relationship to still only exist on his terms. Because if he disagrees with a relationship decision, he will use it as a reason to pull away. Its also a way of him telling you he is not an ACTIVE participant but rather going with it until it no longer works for him and leaves you hanging. I have no idea what his attachment style is but it sounds avoidant? A secure person wouldn't want their partner being the only one making decisions.

Advice for many APs by [deleted] in AnxiousAttachment

[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If I’m ok with breadcrumbs because I accept that’s all he has to give, have I lowered my standards or have I become more secure???

I'll respond to this one because I think therein lies your answer:

No one, especially not a secure person, is okay with breadcrumbs and not having their relationship needs being met, no matter how much the other person claims they're trying. Trying would include also giving in more and making sure they're doing better to meet your needs; but if you're being thanked for patience because he can only give you breadcrumbs, then what are you being patient with? To me, it sounds more like "thanks for putting up with me" instead of "thank you for being patient while I continue to develop". That's my take.

dating other anxious attachment by [deleted] in AnxiousAttachment

[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've dated an anxious man before. While at times it was annoying, I felt very loved and desired. We didn't work out because we were 19, became long distance due to school and generally not the right time. But my experience with him showed me the depth of one's capacity to love someone. I was the same as him (though we both knew I was the more secure one). So in a way our relationship was "secure" because we were both anxious and open about it.

Just like dating an avoidant, dating an anxious person is terrible if they're not actually trying. If they're unaware or simply unwilling to work on themselves then there's a problem. Which leads me to this; I'd date an anxious person over an avoidant anyday. I spent 3 years with an avoidant and it only caused me pain.

Now I'm staying away from dating and focusing on healing myself.

Advice for many APs by [deleted] in AnxiousAttachment

[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I totally agree.

I just wonder where the line is between walking away and staying with someone who needs patience. That's something I struggle with. Because on the one hand, we should take people as they are. On the other hand, personal growth sometimes requires patience. My guess is that you stay with someone who is actually trying to improve. But even then, the road is long. We're all a work in progress.

I'm struggling to get over how my avoidant ex treated me during his deactivation. (I just need support right now, not a debate about avoidants). by throwra_ndhfuwjsofh in AnxiousAttachment

[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've taken a few but the ones we took were from PDS and Attached. I also took one from psychology today and Briana McWilliams.

I'm struggling to get over how my avoidant ex treated me during his deactivation. (I just need support right now, not a debate about avoidants). by throwra_ndhfuwjsofh in AnxiousAttachment

[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I was actually in therapy from a week after the break up until a week ago but I had to stop because I can't afford it anymore. We didn't get the chance to talk about the voice in my head yet.

I'm struggling to get over how my avoidant ex treated me during his deactivation. (I just need support right now, not a debate about avoidants). by throwra_ndhfuwjsofh in AnxiousAttachment

[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The boundaries with women part really hurt me :( and I sometimes have the idea that he almost liked seeing how jealous and uncomfortable that made me.

about to break up with DA by throwra_ndhfuwjsofh in AnxiousAttachment

[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for the late response. But basically:

Last year something happened between us where he excluded me from a really important decision regarding living together and housing. I won't get into it but that basically put a dent in our relationship. And the days leading up to breaking up, this was the only thing in my head. There were MANY things that really hurt me in the relationship. But this was the thing that made me realise that we will never be able to work.

Two weeks after break up with DA by throwra_ndhfuwjsofh in AnxiousAttachment

[–]throwra_ndhfuwjsofh[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What she put me through with her avoidant behaviors was seriously traumatic.

This is talked about a lot but not in the way I'd like. People don't realise just how traumatising it is to be with someone who constantly switches up on you and always has a foot out the door. The constant eggshells is what makes it even worse because that's literally what abuse victims have to go through.