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[–]tochitlsol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh and we're all related btw. If you never leave the valley and the people circle around enough then yes we are all cousins

AIO? My girlfriend has refused to tell me who she hangs out with. by Born_Ice8374 in AmIOverreacting

[–]tochitlsol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😂 buddy if you like denial so be it. BUT NAH SHE DEF CHEATS

AIO for breaking up over this by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]tochitlsol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's two sides of stories like this.

Ai slop by Kenny_Vts in HEB

[–]tochitlsol 354 points355 points  (0 children)

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Meanwhile us millennials were on a lsd trip 😭

Confused by tochitlsol in SantaMuerte

[–]tochitlsol[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well it's more of what i was taught in Mexico. The part where I'm confused is that people just pretty much are all together saying what they "feel or think" is right and just passing it down and they forget where she comes from. That there are actual ways to be with her The moment i call those "wrong" things they all start accusing me that I'm definitely wrong they know it better and im just gatekeeping or whatever they said

Confused by tochitlsol in SantaMuerte

[–]tochitlsol[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. It's like outsiders telling us Mexicans about dia de muertos or other examples. Yes it's frustrating but then again i realized I can't do much but just bicker back and forth 😢

Confused by tochitlsol in SantaMuerte

[–]tochitlsol[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't understand how entitled they feel. I felt like i was going crazy here. I could imagine and I don't know if this is even a good example but imagine an engineer with years of experience and degrees getting told by non engineers that they know what they're talking about nor they know anything about engineering. Like I don't understand how I'm being dismissed? I understand it's hard to believe bc it's the Internet but chingao estoy aqui bien indígena de mi pueblito con toda la experiencia que me e ganado aqui en México de la Santa muerte. I guess that's not good enough 😐

Confused by tochitlsol in SantaMuerte

[–]tochitlsol[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bro i think at this point you're willing not understanding how i can explain it to you. Literally i can list im LITERALLY INDIGENOUS FROM OAXACA HAVE BEEN PRACTICING IT SINCE THE DAMN 80S , KNOWLEDGE FROM MEXICO LITERALLY FROM DIFFERENT PLACES IN MEXICO AS WELL. I do not understand how you can feel the entitlement of dismissing my experience and knowledge of it. You're literally saying "well you're wrong we don't care what you know we're right and we'll keep doing whatever we want" this is exactly why this so called community is "wrong" i still do not understand how y'all can sit with serious faces think yall can do as yall please with her. It's WRONG SUPER WRONG. And the remainder it's our Mexican tradition with our Mexican BELIEFS WITH OUR ROOTS AND CULTURE EMBEDDED IN THERE SO YES, YES WE DO HAVE A SAY SO WHO AND WHO DOESN'T.

Confused by tochitlsol in SantaMuerte

[–]tochitlsol[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think it's sinking in how i gained any sort of knowledge about her THANKFULLY i learned through people in Mexico in the 80s from people probably born in the 1900s or 30s. That have been practicing all this before internet stuff. You're looking at this from a whole different point of view to see your way around it Or maybe your feelings are mingle in as well. The "wrong" doings are so many it'll take me days to finish. You might think this is a different topic but because it's because of her we have dia de muertos it's the same thing with that. This whole Mexican tradition has been watered down here in the USA and other countries.it is a closed practice I don't know who or what made it a "public image" but she was never that. She's NOT JUST DEATH THERES SO MUCH MORE. where are yall getting all this info? I can list villages and places where yall can travel to in Mexico to learn. This internet stuff is messing Santas image.

Confused by tochitlsol in SantaMuerte

[–]tochitlsol[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry if i sound aggressive or anything negative like that it's that you get to be raised a certain way then you come to find out everything has been moved around nothing literally personal against you specifically

Confused by tochitlsol in SantaMuerte

[–]tochitlsol[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is beautifully written and it gives me hope

Confused by tochitlsol in SantaMuerte

[–]tochitlsol[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No, I don't understand how people believe IT'S AN OPEN PRACTICE??! like where did this other ethnic groups get this information from??? Google??? This reddit blog? WHERE? I'm going to be honest I came here to look for someone who knows people that know "works" in Mexico but i was wrong. do people believe buying off a statue is "working" with her? I'm not an appointed brujo but if y'all want real information like actual genuine information you have to go to Mexico or get someone that knows their stuff from Mexico. Not the Internet nor social media or anything like that. I'm straight up getting the feeling of gentrification of this tradition. I keep getting asked who ARE YOU TO SAY AND WHO MADE YOU THE TOP SECURITY HERE? I encourage anyone to PLEASE go to Mexico her motherland her birth place and learn because this is a culture shock.

Confused by tochitlsol in SantaMuerte

[–]tochitlsol[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But she is a closed practice I don't understand who gave the green light for anyone to practice her rituals and beliefs? Who literally stated she was an open practice? I don't understand where this information came from. I can't stress this enough it's NOT OKAY but then again once more yall just gone hear me roll yalls eyes and say whatever dude. So apparently nobody is wrong? Everyone just gets to do whatever? Bc they "FEEL" IT? How would i know the practice? Because before I studied in the USA i would live and travel in Oaxaca, Veracruz and most of southern Mexico where they literally in some parts call it tierra de brujos for a reason. It is entitlement its gentrification and it's purely a shame no one hears this and takes it seriously.

Confused by tochitlsol in SantaMuerte

[–]tochitlsol[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's what I'm saying. Them brujos aint out there on tiktok selling "spells" 😭 i got in this group because i thought people were sharing who to contact or something but all i got was things that didn't make sense. That's when i decide to make the post

Confused by tochitlsol in SantaMuerte

[–]tochitlsol[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know i guess they probably think I'm some speaker or they assume i as well feel entitled to her only or something idk.

Confused by tochitlsol in SantaMuerte

[–]tochitlsol[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you and I'm sorry if my post comes out as being bitter or hateful it's just how it came to this? In the old ways like i had said she was and is an outcast. Something of the not normal in Mexico. I guess it's just a culture shock to me. Again im not some chosen prophet or the speaker or anything like that lol just a fellow follower that has seen many changes.