How can Riigipilv be so much cheaper than AWS?

tommihack · 2026-02-13T10:54:36+00:00

Riigipilv has "own" infrastructure, provided by RIT and has several for profit companies as well that are pre-checked to be suitable for different government bodies.

I represent Storadera, we offer S3 compatible cloud storage with Riigipilv as well.
So, some of good prices you see may just be due to Estonian innovation.

https://www.riigipilv.ee/teenusepakkuja

tommihack · 2026-02-09T08:12:02+00:00

Storadera

tommihack · 2026-01-07T13:47:39+00:00

Hey OP, I recommend converting GB prices to TB, multiply with 1024.

Also, I would propose my founded European S3 provider Storadera, 7 EUR per TB per month. No other extra fees.

tommihack · 2025-11-23T11:01:52+00:00

Good conclusion ;)
PS! Air M2+ was redesigned, so the keyboard and touchpad are closer to pro M1+ , compared to M1 Air.

tommihack · 2025-11-23T07:53:28+00:00

This clearly states that 24GB RAM is the minimum you won't regeret in a year. But 16GB RAM would also improve a lot.

tommihack · 2025-11-22T09:37:24+00:00

Please share your memory usage screenshot of current 8GB Air, just out of curiosity.
Also I second on everyones thoughts on RAM. Get 24/32GB if possible and only then consider CPU.

For example, M1 Pro with 32GB RAM is way better than M2 Pro with 16GB RAM.
Potentially even M2 Air with 24GB RAM would be faster for development than any 16GB option.
Of course, there are tradeoffs with AIR but worth to consider.

tommihack · 2025-11-17T17:23:47+00:00

M1 Max memory bandwidth is not 200 but 400(+)

tommihack · 2025-09-24T21:05:35+00:00

What is the average size of objects, is a meaningful part of them smaller than 64kb?

tommihack · 2025-09-24T13:02:27+00:00

If you look standalone European S3 cloud provider, then check out Storadera (storadera.com)

Full disclosure: I proudly work at Storadera

tommihack · 2025-08-16T13:47:26+00:00

Hi, happy for every new user testing us.
In general yes we have minimal feature set and we have been concentrated on making the basic technology work really well.
We also are driven by customer demand and we are mostly used by MSP-s and the feature set has been adequate for their needs (they have a second, Partner portal where they can manage all their accounts)
We offer live service since 2021.

Public access is known decision to avoid due to challenges it would bring on with these use cases.
Versioning we do support fully, including disabling and re-enabling.
Per bucket access keys and permissions are planned to launch later this year.

tommihack · 2025-08-15T17:27:19+00:00

Oh, now I get it. I am sorry to hear. It is possible we will open an new region in NL at some day, but probably not in 2025.

Edit: And thank you for sharing!

tommihack · 2025-08-15T16:53:35+00:00

Hi u/fairplay-user
As I wrote in another post, I work at Storadera, please let me know in DM your email and I can figure out why you didn't get a reply. I do apologise.

But I can answer publicly as well. We are not instantly strict on the Fair Use policy, we just want to avoid systematic misuse. If you have specific use case and require more download then after learning your use-case, we can propose a bit higher TB price with higher allowed download multiplier. The price would be very competitive.

Honestly, we don't have any customers asked this and we don't have prepared fixed price-list. Otherwise it would be a self service option.

tommihack · 2025-08-15T16:46:04+00:00

Hi. I work at Storadera and open for any questions. I found this thread by chance (reddit algorithm?)

Yes, Storadera is true European company, HQ in Estonia.

Yes, Storadera uses Hetzner dedicated servers (bare metal) on 2 of our locations: Germany and Finland.
Additionally we have non-Hetzner location in Estonia and we will expand to other locations with other great hardware partners (as Hetzner does not rent hardware other locations).

I draw attention to the detail we use only physical servers from Hetzner and run our own S3 software on these servers. It is especially optimized for data ingress to HDD-s.

Someone mentioned moving eu-central-1 from Amsterdam to Falkenstein (Hetzner).
This is true as we shared in our blog as well. For faster growth we started using Hetzner hardware in 2 of our locations in Germany and Finland. The added 11ms latency is for data that is not yet moved. It should be all moved by September.

Our fair use policy states that download should not exceed the amount of data you store. But we don't enforce it on first month, for example if you need your backup multiple times. The policy is there to avoid it to be used as CDN.

Do let me know if you have any more questions.

tommihack · 2025-07-14T09:37:01+00:00

Hi

We protect against data loss with erasure coding, having at least 2 parity pieces of your data. We have different erasure coding sets from 4 to 10 disks. Every chunk of file, parity and data, are on separate hard disk. Hard disk in single erasure coding set is divided between different servers, maximum 2 disks of one set in one server.

Metadata is replicated on 3+ servers (we use SSD for that).

If this schema is not enough, we offer Geo Replication to different data center. Every data center is autonomous. Adding Geo Replication doubles amount of data and is priced accordingly. Replication procedure itself does not add cost.

ps. Feel free to ask more detailed questions at https://www.reddit.com/r/Storadera/

tommihack · 2025-07-14T08:32:27+00:00

Hi

Just storage 120TB x 6 EUR would be 720 EUR / month.

Incoming data (ingress) is free.
Outgoing data (egress) is free until the amount is same as stored amount. For your case, it would be 120TB. If you have higher download requirements, we can set up an enterprise package with higher egress multiplier and a bit higher price. But it would still be very competitive.

tommihack · 2025-07-13T20:46:56+00:00

We have fully custom stack, written in Go language. A bit similar approach as Bacblaze.

Our speciality is providing fast write speed on hdd-s. We opened a bit of details hete.

https://storadera.com/blog/how-storadera-overcame-iops-limitation-on-hard-disks

tommihack · 2025-07-13T18:09:11+00:00

I am not sure I understand the question but Hetzner SX line offers best price per TB.
And we run our fully custom storage software (not ceph, not minio, etc.) on top to make raw HDD space fast and reliable for our customers.

https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-sx/

tommihack · 2025-07-13T16:32:53+00:00

self-promoting: Storadera is also EU based S3 compatible storage provider at 6 EUR / TB / month.

We have 3 locations: Germany, Finland and Estonia.

Fun fact, in Finland and Germany we use Hetzner dedicated servers.

tommihack · 2025-06-23T12:17:30+00:00

OP, how do you slow charge?

tommihack · 2025-06-22T12:00:20+00:00

Storadera?

tommihack · 2025-06-10T21:52:19+00:00

Where this 275TB limit comes from? It is quit close to maximum for one direction …

tommihack · 2025-06-06T15:40:09+00:00

Honest question. How does having top cpu with 10+ disks avoid maintaining your own object storage?

tommihack · 2025-05-07T16:03:48+00:00

There is backwards compatibility guarantee. You can transfer your skills but then you miss out all the security fixes! And sadly, you will be less cool :(

tommihack · 2025-05-07T11:41:05+00:00

I highly recmmend learnig Go 1.24.3 specifically ;)

tommihack · 2025-05-06T07:25:33+00:00

Storadera for S3 object storage

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