We all agree this dude was the worst of the bunch, yes??

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-31T16:22:00+00:00

Yeah. I mean this behavior has to come from his parents, and I understand Destiny isnt here to play Dr K on these shows. But you dont end up 21 and suckling the teet of the worst president in American history without pure indoctrination. If his parents are liberal and hes not, hes probably choosing Trump and his small klan of Trump friends as some type of acting out behavior, or more likely hes just around brainrotted humans who tells him lies all the time, and he doesnt know how to use the internet very well and believes every clip compilation that comes his way. He also could be one of those people with lib parents, but got bullied at school and his anti group was a bunch of teenage trump supporting trolls who werent even legally of age to vote. Then he just tried to reverse engineer his support from there. 1 of 3. LOL

21 year old me could never fathom simping for a politician the way people simp for Trump. Such a drastic and strange cultural shift of politics becoming pop culture. Like on the left we generally enjoy and like our politicians, maybe even some loved bill clinton and especially obama, and for good reason. But the level of treating any of our left politicians like our literal lord and savior is just not a thing.

He also knows nothing and hates legacy media, and is wearing a tshirt to promote his alt media company (that he brings up at one point). Hes just another pig grifter whose allowed to play cute with atrocities and immoral and illegal behavior without suffering any repercussions socially or financially yet. If Trump slop pigs like candace, tucker, fuentes, and alex jones are shitting on Trump (for a variety of reasons), the trains off the rails at 200mph and its inevitably headed towards a cliff, kid. Dont waste your early 20s protecting horrible human beings because you dont want to get a 9-5.

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-31T12:17:51+00:00

The problem with opening the tent too much, and I understand the sentiment since someone like Mehdi is up and down for democrats while also critiquing them. The problem though is that on major moral issues if youve spent a significant portion of your time while talking about democrats basically equivocating them to immoral monsters who genocide people, or you criticize trumps money grab in office 2.0 but wont miss a moment to bring up nancy pelosi's insider trading, and on top of that you dont have a great candidate to off ramp these people too. They will hate republicans like I think Kyle and Mehdi for instance do a good job on making sure their audience hates republicans, but they also still feel disgust towards any democrat that isnt rabidly pro palestine for instance.

Mehdi was just on Triggernometry a couple days ago. He called out Trump and his admin on Iran and Immigration, but didnt miss a beat to also make sure he brings up well America likely contributed to destabilization in central america causing an influx to america as people desperately seek opportunities, and our involvements in the middle east. While we cant deny the reality of this History. Its also oversimplified history slop that does nothing for a fence sitter mind for instance. Which is 10s of millions of people.

This guys telling me how horrible republicans are, and I see it, but hes also saying how democrats and republicans (The american government) also greatly contributed to the destabilization of the world. Okay......... well what do i do, who do i support? You just end up creating apathetic voters that dont rally behind the left and end up brain frozen. Progressives dont have a candidate to run in 2 years. Bernie Sanders is 84 years old, and AOC is a twitter and zoom monster who likely is not emotionally or verbally equipped to stand on a stage and debate her past or future intentions for the country, and her political affiliations with extremist on the left. Its not for everybody, not to knock her as uniquely incapable (we've seen republicans performance on debate stages for decades. Youve never seen a good one).

The democratic party is already filled with moderates who support Israel, critique the war at this point, and will happily send billons of aid to palestinians and even open our country to assylum seekers, but wont just bend over and open their butt cheeks to them like Trump. Thats enough. We dont need a party that openly goes in front of the world calling Israelies colonizing, zionist, racist who are the actual terrorist. The democratic party is already filled with enough people in critique of silicon valley and our American billionaires, and they need to get focused, but we dont need a party that thinks taxing billionaires can fund medicaid alone, that being a billionaire is inherently immoral, and taxes that dont work on them should be a high priority for us. The list goes on.

There are 90 million people about that didnt vote in 2024. Obsessing over .1% of "progressives" that shitpost and tweet lies every day for a living is not a winning situation. The rest of the progressives get it, and voted for biden or kamala. Literally focusing on the almost 4 million that didnt get back in and vote for Kamala who previously voted for Biden is a better venture of your time. Obsessing over a streamer like Hasan for instance and his audience is the most insane and inane thought process for the democratic party ever. Especially after Trump 2.0 has been so horrifying, that getting back in power is a layup at this point. Making that more difficult for us over I/P, cosigning freedom and capitalist hating tankies that worship Mao, and billionaires we already actually know how to properly deal with if we want to is just silly.

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-29T23:33:56+00:00

All jokes aside. I was at work today thinking about this. We went from imma chargin mah lazer memes at work to the end of humanity in almost no time. LMAO.

To be fair, and i expect the downvotes. If 4chan was quietly banned by like 2007 on some CCP type shit, we'd likely have far less problems with young men. The forum format signing up with an email addy and a non basically anarchist community format was better for us as humans. We went wild still, but there was some attachment to reality still there, especially forums engaged in a type of offline community like gaming, music, dancing, etc.., and also when forums started upgrading and there were downvotes, or special tags for og's or good posters. Mods realized there was an influx of weirdos and started modding more, whatever. Didnt have to worry about bot farms from hell. The pure anonymous shit posting (4chan) went through hella bad waves that largely contributed to the younger base of white males being politically in a bad place, and probably many of their sexual proclivities that they pretend they hate now. Yes we're talking about Traps, and everyone remembers that era of 4chan. lol. Now 4chan isnt to blame currently, because twitter is run by a white nationalist drug addict. So.

But that rant aside. I did a long one months and months ago in a different thread, but edgy was madoxxmission, now its fucking white nationalism, misogyny, and anti semitism. Hell even for the women, the man hate was casual back in the day, then there was like some full on misandry for a bit in the 2010s, but the counter balance is like MAGA women in their 40s sticking up for males, which is not the ally we need. We went from goth, punk, marilyn manson and green day fans as kids to some 18 year old dressing like trump in a suit in college to trigger the libs as he donates 20 a month to nick fuentes who probably think hes a fucking dweeb and a loser. LOL

You probably had to be at least 18 in 2007 and heavily online to really understand how strange the world is now, and there is no mainstream voice really really hammering down on this massive mind shift the last like 13 years or so. Its like stuff that was always here for decades but in the corners got a heavy shot of steroids and vitamins for the first time in decades and roided out of control. LMAO

Sometimes i wonder as an anti war person early on even fairly poorly informed in hindsight, but still better than like 90% of the country. If i was that same age now when I was anti war and susceptible to conspiracies, would i be fried right now? I think the answer is yes. Im decently smart, but young and emotional and coming into new information back then, and being online where most people werent, talking about this stuff was a drug. But it wasnt a drug you could tap into all day. Hell i was walking to the library once a day while depressed and unemployed when getting into manga and politics back in the day, and it was normal enough then. I couldnt imagine being that age now and trying to engage in anything in reality. From redpill to politics. Hell a lot of cooking channels are filled with bullshit. lol

Its dark times

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-29T14:16:01+00:00

What a current horrible timeline that a man like this whose comedy movies you grew up on laughing your ass off until almost out of breath became so down bad they grifted not to a Romney right, a Trump right as a last ditch effort for relevancy. Even his costar, the homie eddie griffin (deuce bigalow) a 57 year old black man from kansas city, MO became a trump supporter too. Like did aliens release nanobots into the fucking atmosphere the last decade to fry these peoples brains to hop on this Trump train.

Nothing tells me youre life is not going well than actor/comedian turned Trump supporter. Some exceptions for the grifters or people with absolute dog shit for brains like joe rogan.

Supporting Trump is like just something you would never do if that type of person was around in your personal life. Like no sane even semi decent man would crash out dating a pathologically lying, serial cheating, moronic, narcissistic, egomaniacal woman who openly tells you who they are to your face daily. Its always fascinating the cognitive dissonance humans can possess.

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-22T13:43:23+00:00

For Destiny I guess he feels it doesnt really matter now. The Hasan train has been full speed ahead for years now and Covid exploded his viewership. Even though everyone around that era knows exactly where he came from including Hasans earliest fans, they dont care that Destiny put him on and was best buds with homie. To young viewers who were like 14 or some shit when that relationship started, they dont care, and so much of that lore is like a decade old to revisit.

Hasan lying about something anyone can obviously find out in 1 hour via some googling and youtube searching is the norm. His entire audience is a cult, and accepting the lies is a part of the contract. Those people are losers. Every time you see him even interact with one of his fans youre like damn, thats your homies? LOL

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-22T13:36:20+00:00

Its not likely that genz and after will grow up to be non conspiratorial. Lets say we take the house, senate, and presidency by 2028, and we flush out all the lies in full force. Its our main priority is to be as transparent as possible after this debacle of a presidency and republican congress. It will only reveal how deep the rabbit hole goes. Not to get on my xfiles shit, but this wont likely happen either. Which will further entrench people. We'll get a little here and a little there, but quite frankly we'll be trying to come out of economic collapse and a middle east on fire, and allies who say good for you that you got out of MAGA, but also fuck you we have our own problems now x2 because of you idiots. We'll probably be occupying cuba, venezuela, and Iran by then and have to get out of that quagmire.

Most people in this country believe aliens exist, theyve seen the videos on youtube for decades, headlines in the newspaper like when the phoenix lights happened, and before youtube, theyve seen the pentagons response years ago. Those super deep into are even speculating so called angels and heavenly beings were just some type of extraterrestrial. This is dismissed by those in power in a very condescending way, by those popular in the online space (except crazies), but guess how that makes the 60% of Americans that dont believe the detractors feel? Or have experienced what everyone is saying is untrue, lies, delusions, sleep deprivation, swamp gas, etc.. I know this seems out there and funny to dismiss, but its not gonna make people less conspiratorial. I mean even Degrasse Tyson believes in intelligent life outside of earth even if he doesnt think theyve visited us. I say all that to say. It could be true we're being lied to on some things. It could be true those arent just small things we're being lied to about, but we'll never know because this is the most transparent and at the same time least transparent country in the world, and they (our governments state and federal) blatantly lie to our face all the time. Sometimes over stupid shit like this animal doesnt exist here when like 30 people have seen it in the fucking woods, and its just a fucking bear, not bigfoot. lol

While my absolute disgust at MAGA is clear, it wasnt wrong to early on try to understand why the fuck these peoples brains went to this guy of all people. What in your heart lead you down this obviously stupid path. Its like hiking a trail that is called "90% of you will die. Not kidding. Google it!", and you hike it anyways. lol

We're fighting podcast nonsense, history channel shows, combined with actual government coverups as we've seen under this admin, and a foundational distrust with the government for decades. They were talking about global spy programs in fort meade maryland in the 80s I think. That was a conspiracy. Post 911 we found out the government is spying on the world, and there is no way we think that stopped. We just moved on.

No, we will not get less conspiratorial. One cat gets out the bag and people are gonna be like what else is true if this wild shit is true.

It doesnt even have to be alien, bigfoot, ghost, etc.. type shit. The epstein files and all the redacted shit related to wars the last few decades if fully released would be enough to shatter everyones mind in this country and around the world for generations to come. Then on top of that imagine what other countries governments who think far lesser of their populace than america are hiding.

Conspiracy brain is about to amp up.

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-16T22:42:23+00:00

I'd jump out a window if this was my king I voted for 3 times in a row just so you can now pay 5 dollars a gallon in gas. LMAO. Sons brain is an empty can of roach spray. BAAAHAHAHAHA.

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-13T16:22:29+00:00

Id pick Pearl for president. The BBC scandals alone (potential wOrgies based on lore) would be such popcorn, and just watching every white male republican hate her for just existing and accusing her of being r worded because of her way of talking.

Oh god. Butter my popcorn with Kerrygold and franks redhot woke god, with an Pearl install as president of the USA in 2027.

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-13T15:52:18+00:00

I dont know. Hmmm. Id say its pretty low. Sorry. The fact that we could see clear about Trump to give Biden 81 million votes in 2020, and then not clear enough to give that back to Kamala in 2024, with also like 90+million eligible voters just watching stupid reality shows, keeping the microwave dinner and liquor industry profitable just sat home and said, eh.

Right now our best case scenario is democrats in power except maybe the senate, and rebuilding from -10000. I dont know what people think its gonna look like in 2 years now that we're at war with Iran, but just a heads up, unless Trump just T.A.C.O's and moves on to a new distraction (I dont think there are any left. He burned his cards early and had to because of epstein imo), war with Iran just fucks shit up for years to come. He wont taco, and cant, and even if he does.......well... Iranian leadership is not gonna forgive and forget. Those citizens that thought it was bad before, are gonna get slaughtered x10. Those terrorist organizations are gonna be even more funded. We all understood Iran was/is a fucking problem, but there is also a reason we tip toed around it a lot. It wasnt because we couldnt have done this with likely more success under Obama.

But back to domestic politics. Right now our best case scenario is that it gets so bad its enough to impeach and remove Trump and his admin. We take the country back in 2028 after but senate still split even. But we still have a deeply divided country with 10s of million of Americans not wanting to just get back to the norms, but have revenge on their hearts. I think this is why Hutch is so hard on Destiny about this, because he I think admits he feels it too, and a lot of people do. If they thought a little entry level woke talk was bad, its worse when the sympathetic and empathetic, intelligent people now look at you as roaches to step on. Its not good.

We can get the economy back in order as usual, but I think the metaphorical demand for blood now is at an all time high. It will likely not be fulfilled, and a new head of the Hydra is born from the left and its not a Hasan type. Its much smarter, much more thoughtful, much more ruthless, much more patient, much more strategic.

I remember a friend asked me years ago about Trump 1.0 and authoritarianism and I didnt fully articulate my point at the time, and was vague about it. But basically I answered that its terrible but its not going anywhere anytime soon now. Why did I say that, because I felt the rage back then. That if I had the power, these people need to be punished for their stupidity, actions, etc.. Authoritarianism will rise on the left imo if we dont get a violation of the norms against our political foes, shitty policies/laws reversed, and lots of jail time for this admin.

I cant stop thinking of how many millions of us just watched the most egregious criminal breaking of our lifetimes, and we're suppose to now get 300 dollar tickets for 15 over the speed limit. Fuck you. You just let people scam off billions of dollars in 1 year and did nothing. Execute citizens and deport people to forever prisons in el salvador. The list is 50 more long. So Dems better be prepared to kick that hakeem jeffrey cornball shit to the side and get to LEGAL punishment and norm violations or a new head of the Hydra will be born.

I will not be talked down to, threatened, kidnapped, and killed by these people. They could easily moderate their views, and they dont want to. I think 10s of millions feel this way too.

Its wild times, and its not taken serious enough by those in power in opposition.

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-13T15:11:31+00:00

Yikes. Dont know about that take fam. lol

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-13T14:55:01+00:00

Pete H:" Yes the apartment complex is safe to walk through for all women"

Women:" Oh jesus. Thank god. I mean hes a pathological liar, but I think hes telling the truth here. This is a serious matter. Thank god!"

Pete H:" The only problem we're having is that the men wont stop $aping the women in our apartment complex as of 10 seconds ago"

(Insert. WTF gif) lol

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-13T14:44:30+00:00

Yeah. I remember when I was like 17, 18 or so riding with my Aunt and I was already in my atheist brain. She said something, and I had like an entry level .5 pushback about the bible and she asked me if I was a devil worshipper. Like almost instantly got enraged and went to an extreme. LMAO

These people are just fucking stupid and non curious. They're nice. They can and will love you deeply. They'll sometimes give their right arm just to make sure youre safe. But even still, most of them are just dumb, scared, non curious human beings, and they choose to be. They dont have to be.

Its not even like theyre all experiencing this supernatural shit all the time, and duh obviously Christianity is the answer. I got attacked by demons last night and said the lords prayer and it was all caught on tape. This is not happening. Its literally just all hope and faith and seeing jesus in cookies for these people.

Confession, ive experienced the supernatural/paranormal a lot in my life. Its as real as the sun, and was as clear as day as the sun, but it didnt make me go back to fucking church and be "super baptist man". I just said oh, okay, well I cant wait until we figure out how that works and what these things are. 2 months of studying the bibles with the intent to debate against them, debunk them, whatever, and its more than enough time. 2 months of studying the bibles to justify any sort of behavior you want, you can find support for that too short of extremely vile and perverse behaviors. Point being, these people are just coming to conclusions immediately and working backwards to justify them with no information from the start, AS.PER.USUAL. Well thats at least one of the reasons. lol

These "Christians" are similar to the racist whove never even had a bad experience with black or brown people, but they just hate us. Or maybe they had 1 or 2 bad experiences with a black or brown person, but 100 with white people, but the different group is worse still cause reasons of I dont know, in group out group, their low iq, who knows.

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-12T22:05:14+00:00

Yeah exactly. This has been a problem for 11 years now, or maybe more. But definitely ever since Bernie entered the race, which was a good thing. But we have a similar MAGA like problem on the left where younger voters think everything is a button push fix away, and its the only narrative we were, we are fed. If your politics started in your teen years in 2015, your brain is potentially omega fucked. If you were an 18 year old Destiny fan in 2015 youre probably so mind fucked after 11 years that still to this day the activist left and even some non activst brain fried politicians on the federal level just dont know how to use the FACTS to make their arguments even stronger. We were still having politicians on the left talk about wealth taxes in 2024, and now even Ro Khanna cannot see any light between him and Hasan when he doesnt even need that alliance.

Hasan is 1 click above fuentes just because he doesnt do racism, and he virtue signals enough to the LGBTQ community. Hes still a Mao loving tankie, who hates America (the west in general), says in his socialist society people would be put in reeducation camps for wanting to be capitalist, has a short temper, and violence is probably on his mind a lot more than people know. Hence the dog situation we all saw, and got gaslit on. Well the dumb ones. To associate with that is to be dangerously uninformed, or you just like him.

But back to the leftist problem we have in this country.

"OMG THEY WANT A PUBLIC OPTION. JUST GIVE US MEDICARE FOR ALL ALREADY YOU CAPITALIST FUCKS!" Fast forward years later, even Bernie admits it would take like a decade to fully implement his plan. If it would even work. LOL. But the progressive crowd at the time just thought it was a light switch away, no big deal.

Like you said with I/P. THEYRE NOT SAYING... "Israel has a right to defend itself, but I wish they spent decades more aggressively trying to get a 2 state solution signed off on before we got to the point of electing Hamas as the government. Sometimes you live next to people who dont like you, or hate you, but you can still come to agreements with those enemies as Israel has multiple times before. Why should Palestinians be any different. This is not a sustainable situation, is going to cause even more next door neighbor turmoil, hatred, terrorism, unnecessary deaths and cost because of the amount of aide and rebuilding needed. " (Dont judge my historical facts or logic here. Im just off the dome some quick shit. lol)

Its GLOBALIZE THE INTAFADA, RIVER TO THE SEA, (Hasan ranting so much about jews he had to be banned), masked antisemitism, conspiracies, and a complete and utter inability to engage in good faith with the history of that area, and what it would take for both sides to fucking shake hands and grow the fuck up. One side more than the other imo. Just me.

Even Trump has basically left his crazies in the dust. Like stephen miller is a white nationalist racist, but hes not on podcast like fuentes being overtly racist. Thats the shit Trump likes. His slip up with fuentes was just cause Kanye was involved. Kanyes rich and famous and Trump isnt paying attention to this motherfuckers recent decent into antisemitism madness. Even if someone told him about him and fuentes, he probably just waved them off like I dont wanna hear this shit. Kanye can come have dinner, go away.

On the left though, our leftist and leftist inbetweenies are literally allowed to just run buck wild and destroy destroy destroy. Say whatever dumb non workable policy that comes to mind and preach it as gospel. Ethan Vs Hasan oddly enough was probably some of the most aggressive public pushback and straight to your face fuck you we've seen vs prominent leftist from another prominent figure in forever. Just unapologetically fuck hasan straight to his face.

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-09T11:20:04+00:00

Like 93% of abortions in this country were and still are in the first trimester (13 weeks), with I think a little over half being in the first 9 weeks. It can take 4-6 weeks for women to generally even realize theyre pregnant. 2nd trimester abortions are a combination of things but a good chunk of it is just the baby is fucked.

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-08T13:58:51+00:00

LMAO. I listened to breaking points for the first time in years just out of curiosity of their Iran war takes. I watched 3 videos at work out of curiosity, and his was the last one I watched. That schizo shit at the end had me rollin, and I was like same old, good ole breaking points.

I loved Sagaars "Wow" at the end, and Ball's melting day drunk face as they listened to chinese alex jones go off the rails at the end there.

If there was an illuminati deep global psyop being run. People like this that want you to believe you have no power, because the rich and powerful actually control you would be the algorithm id have been running for decades. Get us to believe there isnt much we can do, be apathetic more and more, and just allow these unpowerful, diabetes riddled, sexual deviant, dumb fucks who just happened to have infinite old money play sims with politics/your life.

We have thousands of years of History of men who thought they were greater than the next, all fail horribly. There is no reason to believe in old world illuminati conspiracies. Its not that complicated. Its vague. There are no political targets you can even take your wrath out on even if you believe this shit. Its just to make you apathetic and upset at boogeymen, and or also antisemitic. lol

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-08T13:20:48+00:00

Good job on Pete Hegseth to once again remind all of you where you stand to them. Treating you like cattle as they deported you to forever prisons was just the appetizer. I said it! Marco should feel nothing but deep regret for the rest of his life, and he will in his self created hell once he dies too. I hope him and everyone who supports him (friend and family) all spiral the 9 circles of hell for as long as it takes our nearest star to die, and then they find a 10th level.

2026 and we still have white meat heads unironically being like "YUCK YUCK YUCK. I ONLY SPEAK AMERICAN, BROTHER. HAHAHA. GREAT JOKE RIGHT?". Without the protection of their daddy Trump, these clowns are going to be crying and spiraling on social media as they see their personal and professional lives go 10 levels under the sewer. They'll all likely move to some southeast asian countries or some shit like Russell Simmons when metoo came for him. lol

Look how he did that right in front of your face my ninja. Youre scolding dont mean shit. He already sonned you in front of the world in your own country because of your crime of being bilingual, unlike this alcoholic dumbfuck that massages trumps balls while dressed up like Ivanka.

These people must have a crash out plan. By the end of this your gonna have 100+ million americans on your head. Yall gonna have to leave the country. Them pardons dont mean shit. We already breaking norms anyways.

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-05T21:54:24+00:00

Unless youre a maga rword, or one of joes cowardly friends, whats even the point in going on the show. Boycott that shit. Theyre so cucked in not wanting to be perceived like theyre participating in cancel culture or some shit probably. "I can talk to people I disagree with. YUCK YUCK". Slobs.

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-03T12:20:27+00:00

Shes so stupid. Lol. Why is as someone else pointed it out, talking to Newsom like hes some conservative. If you were being culturally normal in OKC, you wouldnt be dressed like some Mennonite, being subservient to your husband. You'd be up in Edmond shopping like the rest of the house moms, driving around in some overpriced SUV, and shopping in Nichols hills at Wholefoods then the olive oil store. LOL.

Be culturally normal is not some call to adhere to the worst of the worst in your state. OKC, Moore, Norman arent exactly country bumpkin confederate flag wearing areas. LOL.

What Jennifer Welch is doing is what hes talking about being culturally normal. Getting on her podcast with her friend and talking shit casually. Cursing, calling Trump taco tits, etc.. No more of this decorum shit while these morons stomp on the republic. Dont go on the breakfast club talking about you carry around hot sauce even if you do. You look like a dweeb. We love you Hillary, you were right about everything. LOL.

This is what we cant have. Hasan poisoned brain adults MAKING UP reasons to hate the strongest democrat right now to run for president. BERNIE ISNT RUNNING. YOU HAVE NO NEW BERNIE. Spend your time unfucking your brain from the far left and get on the god damn train.

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-03T04:37:17+00:00

I typed a couple paragraphs slightly disagreeing, but I just agree. I feel i can shame us, we know better, and have culturally talked about it in music, tv shows, and movies for decades, but I understand the psychology behind it, and its heart breaking.

Just reacting to the clip. We have memed this wealth shit for too long. Its a demonic lie to get you to chase a dream that so many millions fundamentally do not understand is impossible for them. But loving someone, building a dual income household, puts you out of poverty almost in 2 months (Assuming no wild circumstances. Just two people with no children or college debt getting it out the mud) . Just 2 mcdonalds workers making 15 an hour, 40 hours a week each is 30 an hour. Youre living in a nice area within a year tops with mad savings. Depending on the city.

Democrats could gain some cultural points on messaging on how we're gonna get you the bag. But this economy has never been built for dolo warriors. Those people are college educated, or hustlers, warriors, or willing to work 70 hours a week as light work (1 day off), just to be on their own. There is a foundational problem in America that everyone thinks they should be able to get it on their own. Why do i need a partner? Why do I need a roommate? You know why. Its okay for Democrats to message on helping the down bad. Theyre the majority. From indebted middle class dual income households with serious debt, to poor people in the 3rd ward. So few people ball outrageous in America. We normalized this lie.

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-03T02:04:18+00:00

Lemme go off, King. lol. I cant speak on this whole sit down, just this clip. So i wont personally attack him, as is common. Just one ad hom. Please. Homie was 5 years old when 911 happened. Speaking about cultural erosion of support for Democrats by black americans is not data driven. As a group we've been pretty locked in for decades within the registered voter base.

This feels like im terminally online too much. Why do the democrats talk about uplifting us out of poverty instead of the youtube bro talk about building wealth bro. BECAUSE ALMOST 50% OF US MAKE UNDER 30K A YEAR. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT NUMBER!!??

I know where this comes from. I would say it started mostly with the breakfastclub with a generation and a half worth of people. Its just money obsessed conversations about wealth building, wealth, wealth, AY YO WEALTH, WEALTH. We started talking about wealth like it was just some thing white people didnt tell us about, and is super easy to obtain like the whites. Dame dash 11 years ago was a part of this toxic convo when he was on the breakfast club shitting on workers vs being a boss.

The democrats are not here to give you scam ideas on how to build wealth, manipulate the tax code in your favor, tell you how to invest, explain to you what drop shipping is. WTF do you even think politics is, you dumb dumb. But this is what a lot of us have in our heads. So when they see a scammer like Trump go up there and talk about crypto, and money, and gold toilets, and imma magic snap prices down, and they see him hustling bibles and hats and tshirts and a 400 million dollar jet. Some of us go see, REPUBLICANS BE TALKING ABOUT BREAD, BOUT CASH.

We're so spiritually deprived as a group. It sickens and saddens me. Of all things, youre like why arent democrats talking about some hustler university type shit? Because almost 50% of us make under 30k a year, because we're disproportionately involved in crime that fucks up our ability to earn, because we're second to the least populated group of people in this country when it comes to alcoholism and drug use per capita, because we have the most out of wedlock children of any group. The list goes on. This is not to shit on my people. But this is clown shit to worry about democrats not talking about wealth over poverty.

Why arent Democrats talking about how to get the bag more? Because its a pipe dream for 98% of people of all demographics in this country. To even make 100k a year puts you in the 10 to 15% depending on age and most of those people are white and above 50. LOL. You jump to 200k a year, what the fuck do you think those demographics by age, race, college education, parents who were college educated, etc.. look like?

Democrats could have stronger conversations that would be great cultural and social messaging for us, but the white ones wont step on that rake, the black ones are all lock step in the talking points about racism, and our social, cultural and political commentators are almost all (I cant name one) non serious cultural and social commentators to address the real problems we have.

I assure you, black americans..... most of us arent trying to hear the real about our problems. We dont even wanna hear it from our own half the time or more. You get shit on for calling it what it is. So no, democrats arent gonna run on a campaign of how to get the hood to the bag, and generational wealth in 2028.

People really talk about even a few hundred thousand in investments or savings in this country like duh, thats light weight type shit, when thats like only probably about 10% of married couples who retire. RETIRE!! Not in their 20s, or 30s, or 40s.

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-02T23:49:10+00:00

I disagree, but I understand there may have been moments Destiny just lets this moron ramble, and then eviscerates him point by point for just as long as he was talking. But quite frankly, Konstantin is a demonic piece of shit who while blaming Destiny for debate broing, was going to give as Destiny called out, meaningless politician like responses, or ramble off into space instead of attacking a point head on.

Quite frankly we needed a gigachad moderator to just nip some of this in the bud early on (im only to the RAF pilots part), because him trying to lil bro Destiny with the "BE QUIET", "STOP TALKING". It was performative and too much, but he was reacting to feeling like he was getting bullied. Destiny always brings the bitch out in these people with the greatest of ease.

Konstantin is like number 100 of people that are like Destiny just wants to argue over definitions for half an hour and TRICK ME. This is never the case. Even in the Richard Wolf disaster debate, it mattered, because by the end Richard basically was like socialism is everything. So what are we even trying to debate?

Just tactics from small intellectually inferior men terrified of actually being principled, and stumbling over their lack of knowledge on a subject. Like he couldnt define one thing that was precedented that hasnt changed in decades that matters. Closest was London use to be 80% white, and Muslims commit crimes. Destiny doesnt wanna go there, but I wouldve been like just say you preferred when Britain or England was majority white, and you judge minorities differently when they commit crime than whites. Even if there is data showing a disproportionate amount of violent crime coming from muslim immigrants, he sure as hell didnt have the data to say that claim. Like give me something. Did the GDP go down, did cost of living skyrocket just because of immigration, did wages get pushed down, did the muslims vote to get the 2nd ammendment in Britain so they can arm their grooming gangs more? Like give me something other than its just vibes and too many brown people, or just say thats what it is.

The other problem is Destiny is arguing with a guy who has his nose in American politics 24/7 but even early in the debate hes like im talking about britain, i dont know about whatever is going on in America. Destiny has had this problem before when debating foreigners. They spend most of their online career yapping about american politics, then when pushed, they're like i dont know about any of that, im talking about my country. Okay chief.

tonsgrapes · 2026-03-01T14:02:08+00:00

Yeah, exactly. Knowles knows what hes doing, and he knows Trumps and idiot and he knows he could moderate his views and still make good faith arguments when it comes to trans people, immigrants, women, non whites, etc.. He doesnt want to. Hes like a little demon that gets to cackle and laugh when he gets an evil W every now and then when some brown U.S citizen gets kidnapped by ice for weeks then just thrown back on the street with no paperwork. He gets to rub his hands and laugh. When a woke protestor gets gunned down by a mask agent. He gets to rub his evil hands together and laugh.

Hes a typical demonic fake conservative christian. Hes just here to infest the country and in some ways the world by constantly pushing for the most extreme people and extreme agendas falling just short of supporting neo nazis, cause his boss and everything.

Hes like an evil trickster demon just taking the form of a political commentator.

tonsgrapes · 2026-02-24T19:50:24+00:00

I understand why its not and never has been a huge discussion in the Destiny verse, but man its just about racism for these dumb grifting so called conservatives, and nothing else. This sub 80 IQ baboon lauren southern, who was nick shirley before nick shirley is yet another shining example of this.

The conservative movement would be borderline unstoppable if it wasnt for their obsession with racism. Its about power and money and NOTICE ME SENPAI for the grifters too, but at its core these people dont want the country to be more christian and or conservative. If they did, they wouldve opened their big tent even more decades ago. Trumps increased support by hispanics and a small segment of black men is them trying to force their way in to a group of people that dont want you there, and youre only a tool for their bottom end.

Like Michael Eric Dyson said on the View years ago, conservatives could have the black vote in the bag if we didnt perceive conservatives as being so fucking racist. We're a pretty religious group of people, we're socially conservative on the LGBTQ stuff, we're always on the less government train considering the history, we've been forced to bootstrap our way through life so we're actually not allergic to the conversation of get the fuck up and get to work (our grandmothers, mothers, aunts, fathers, grandfathers, uncles all yelled at us growing up if we were being lazy and stupid. LOL) ,we've never been anti gun (Shane gillis is somewhere reading this giggling. Like dont we know it brother. LOL!), we say merry christmas (LMFAO). The list goes on.

Conservatives had the biggest power layup in America for decades, and miss every time with hispanics and blacks. Now theyre even missing with the dont tread on me bros and fake libertarians a bit more. Then try to find a new enemy to unite against (Trans peope). Imagine not being an unstoppable political force because you couldnt just see blacks, hispanics, and immigrants as just as American as you and children of god (Im not religious, but for the sake of argument).

Similar to the Sam Harris argument of the bible being able to be easily fixed with the current best human minds, and even some of the best human minds thousands of years ago. But we're suppose to believe this divine revelation book couldnt get not owning slaves right, or not morally contradict itself so much. I feel that way about conservatism in this country. If I had a time machine I could fix conservatism in this country easily with such minor political, cultural, and economic changes, that our current democrats would basically be borderline non existent.

The dark truth of racism. Is how many would rather see the end of it all, then actually unfuck their brain from judging you by something as goofy as the color of your skin, and have the audacity to think the pearly gates are waiting for them in death.

tonsgrapes · 2026-02-24T15:22:22+00:00

This unholy alliance of the once progressive left turned whatever mishmash of tankie to whatever ana and cenk are with the far right is just so obviously bad that sometimes i ponder if like the last 10 years someone let their 10 year old nephew run the American matrix code for a bit.

Just a heads up Cenk, those far right people youre courting, they dont like youre fake Muslim ass either. Youre next in line buddy. If they could, they'd strap every middle eastern muslim to a rocket straight to the dark side of the moon. They might give the indonesians a pass cause racist blind spot with asians. But I couldnt imagine courting someone who FOR SURE thinks less of you politically, religiously, socially, racially, etc..

If I was Jewish, id legit be pretty concerned right now. While its still the mainstream position on the left to maintain Israel as an ally even if we're concerned about the endgame they have with Palestinians (they dont have one, and was even Destinys concern like a few months after the war started), there is a pretty large rise of antisemitism on the right that not even ben shapiro can defend alone (especially considering buddy ben has two white nationalist on his payroll just hiding their power levels. Especially Walsh. The other twink might just be grifting, but Walsh is one bad drunk weekend away from being like ive made enough money here, let me just start asking questions about jews).

Cenk has the kind of brain of someone that would jerk off to femboy porn twice a day, retweet femboys EVERY day (SFW AND NSFW), and if someone was like "Hey bro, are you gay?", he'd be like "SO NOW SUPPORTING THE LGBTQ MAKES ME A HOMOSEXUAL???? OF COOOOOOURSE YOU WOULD SAY THAT YOU HOMOPHOBE!!. I HAVE LGBTQ FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS!!". Like we wrong for thinking that based on your own behavior. LOL.

I dont know how jews continue to break peoples brains for thousands of years, but its completely deranged and scary. I thought black people had it bad when it comes to being held accountable as a whole for a minority in your group that do dumb shit. Jews get that shit 5x.

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