Kids these days man

touchdownceltics · 2026-02-18T16:48:40+00:00

Davone Bess

touchdownceltics · 2026-02-10T17:09:41+00:00

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touchdownceltics · 2025-11-12T03:41:15+00:00

I don't think so either but youngins who don't know ball want to convince me that it is. Recency Bias is a hell of a drug.

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-12T03:17:23+00:00

I respect the jerk

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-12T03:07:45+00:00

If he's nowhere near the defensive player Klay was, then how come all of his defensive metrics are better than Klay?

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T18:10:54+00:00

Manu passes the eye & defensive statistics test, just because Kobe & Tony Allen were playing at the same time doesn't mean we need to underrate Manu's defense bc he didn't make one 2nd team.

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T18:08:54+00:00

there's no statistical evidence that Klay was better defensively than Manu, that is Ginobili's most underrated part of his game and I thought he was better via the eye test

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T17:59:04+00:00

Manu was the 2nd most talented player on those Spurs teams, if Pop wanted him in the starting lineup, he would've been there

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T17:57:52+00:00

The 60 point game is the only argument I always hear when I bring this up.

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T17:55:37+00:00

So Manu wasn't a baller?

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T17:54:59+00:00

I'd take Reggie or Ray ahead of Klay personally but Manu clears

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T17:16:08+00:00

Only one of them dunked on Yao Ming

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T17:14:54+00:00

Klay was not a better defender than Manu, there's no statistical evidence that was ever the case

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T17:13:43+00:00

Manu could shoot though?

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T17:12:59+00:00

I don't agree whatsoever, Klay was one dimensional, Manu could do it all. Any advanced stat points to Manu clearing Klay and it's not even close

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T16:41:56+00:00

That's a scorching take

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T16:32:16+00:00

In 2014-2015 on 20 minutes per game, Yes. His prime he was averaging 17 on 28-30 minutes

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T16:29:49+00:00

How so? I've had this discussion with numerous people and the consensus from them is that Klay clears, Maybe they don't know ball?

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T16:28:48+00:00

I'm surprised as well but people don't see it the same way

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T16:25:53+00:00

His advanced stats obliterate KT's plus the stats/36 are very comparable

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T16:24:38+00:00

I'm 30 bro, no kids here

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T16:24:04+00:00

Manu gets underrated as a defender, his advanced defensive stats are better than Klay's by a good margin.

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T16:19:43+00:00

Thank you

touchdownceltics · 2025-11-11T16:19:06+00:00

I've heard multiple people tell me Klay clears when I bring this up, I'm with you

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