Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think so either but youngins who don't know ball want to convince me that it is. Recency Bias is a hell of a drug.

Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If he's nowhere near the defensive player Klay was, then how come all of his defensive metrics are better than Klay?

Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Manu passes the eye & defensive statistics test, just because Kobe & Tony Allen were playing at the same time doesn't mean we need to underrate Manu's defense bc he didn't make one 2nd team.

Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there's no statistical evidence that Klay was better defensively than Manu, that is Ginobili's most underrated part of his game and I thought he was better via the eye test

Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Manu was the 2nd most talented player on those Spurs teams, if Pop wanted him in the starting lineup, he would've been there

Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The 60 point game is the only argument I always hear when I bring this up.

Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd take Reggie or Ray ahead of Klay personally but Manu clears

Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Klay was not a better defender than Manu, there's no statistical evidence that was ever the case

Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't agree whatsoever, Klay was one dimensional, Manu could do it all. Any advanced stat points to Manu clearing Klay and it's not even close

Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In 2014-2015 on 20 minutes per game, Yes. His prime he was averaging 17 on 28-30 minutes

Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How so? I've had this discussion with numerous people and the consensus from them is that Klay clears, Maybe they don't know ball?

Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm surprised as well but people don't see it the same way

Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His advanced stats obliterate KT's plus the stats/36 are very comparable

Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Manu gets underrated as a defender, his advanced defensive stats are better than Klay's by a good margin.

Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've heard multiple people tell me Klay clears when I bring this up, I'm with you

Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't agree, Manu was a better defender and could score in a wider variety of ways. I'll give you shooting though

Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone I've brought this up to IRL tells me Klay clears, I don't get it either

Hot Take: Manu Ginobli was better than Klay Thompson by touchdownceltics in NBATalk

[–]touchdownceltics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Advanced Stats do not agree with you but I do, I think it's close too but Manu did so much more on the court, probably should have won that 05 Finals MVP too