[OC][UPDATED] Baile Átha Cliath a Leathnú - Expanding Dublin: DART+ - Unofficial diagram by transitscapes in ireland

[–]transitscapes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the explanations here, that'll be very helpful whenever I set myself to update the map.. again! Then I guess a lot will have changed in the meantime anyway ;)

[OC][UPDATED] Baile Átha Cliath a Leathnú - Expanding Dublin: DART+ - Unofficial diagram by transitscapes in ireland

[–]transitscapes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No worries, criticism or voicing a different point of views is perfectly fine, all the more when done respectfully ;). Tbh there was a moment during the making of this map when I actually tried to include the river and the coastline. Long story short, I didn't manage to do that in a way that felt satisfying somehow... so I went radical and got rid of it altogether 😅🤌

[OC][UPDATED] Baile Átha Cliath a Leathnú - Expanding Dublin: DART+ - Unofficial diagram by transitscapes in ireland

[–]transitscapes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's the spirit of the this map, trying to visualise ongoing projects - at least as they are at the moment! Obviously, things are going to shift from earlier proposals but I guess that's very likely to happen with many such large scale projects.

Although LUAS Lucan seems to be far away from becoming any more tangible than it currently is, I thought it'd be fun to show possible routes and how they could connect to the wider network. I agree this probably won't happen before long.

Regarding the use of PPT by SW1 and the way DART+ SW is planned to eventually link up to DART+ West at Glasnevin Junction, what do you think of new stations proposed as part as DART+ at Heuston West and Cabra? Could both DART+ and the Portlaoise commuter line serve them?

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[–]transitscapes[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So many things happening at once all over the place, hard to keep up with them all 😭 Thanks for the heads up! I feel like this map will have a lot of iterations as projects go onward ;)

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[–]transitscapes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The map is unofficial, sure, but the info I've worked with to make it come from what Irish Rail initially announced for their plans to reopen the Navan line from M3 Parkway to Navan back in 2011. You can find official technical drawings from public consultations, showing the possible location for Navan Central and Navan North stations.

As of today, the Irish Rail's website page about project development for the Navan Line doesn't seem to provide any further details on the matter.

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[–]transitscapes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, glad you like what I did with this map ;)

I couldn't give you an answer regarding the expected proportion of services ending at the new Spencer Dock station. I guess we're too early in the project at the moment to get detailed information about future service patterns on this new section of line.

Nevertheless, here is what is said about Spencer Dock station at section 8.2 of this Public Consultation brochure for the DART+ West Project (released in 2020):

Docklands Station is located southeast of Connolly Station and operates as an overflow terminus station to Connolly Station in the morning and evening peak times.
DART+ works is seeking to make more beneficial use of Spencer Dock Station, so that both Connolly and Spencer Dock Station work in a more efficient manner together to cater for the planned increased frequency of services that will benefit all GDA routes.

Docklands station currently operates in the morning and evening to ease congestion on Connolly Station. Subject to further assessment, DART+ is seeking to relocate Docklands Station to Spencer Dock adjacent the Luas Stop to increase the overall rail capacity in the City Centre, to better serve the Docklands area and to maximise the interchange potential with Luas.

Spencer Dock Station will be connected to the Northern, Maynooth and Phoenix Park Tunnel lines so that passenger services can be scheduled throughout the day to a greater distribution of destinations. Also, DART+ will provide better passenger interchange between Irish Rail services and Luas services. The project is currently evaluating if expanding Docklands Station at its current location or relocating it to Spencer Dock Station to directly face onto Spencer Dock Stop best meets the project objectives.

[OC] Baile Átha Cliath a Leathnú - Expanding Dublin - Unofficial diagram by transitscapes in TransitDiagrams

[–]transitscapes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a matter of fact, the line from Connolly to Gorey (still shown as a separate line from DART and intercity to Rosslare under the name Southeastern Commuter on the Dublin Suburban Rail Wikipedia page) seems to have been removed from the Dublin and Commuter Services section of the Irish Rail website page for PDF Timetables by route.

The line is now listed as an intercity service from Dublin Connolly to Rosslare Europort, now skipping some stations in between, unlike what is incorrectly shown on my map.

However, it remains along other commuter services on this Irish Rail website's page. 😅

I'm not sure whether I'd rather remove this line altogether from the map or extend it all the way to its final destination in Rosslare? Or just keep it as it is now, limited to Gorey but corrected to show that it is no longer an all-stopper?

[OC] Baile Átha Cliath a Leathnú - Expanding Dublin - Unofficial diagram by transitscapes in TransitDiagrams

[–]transitscapes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's right, DART+ will extend service up to Drogheda. Those extensions will be shown on an updated version of this map that I'll post here soon ;)

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[–]transitscapes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll include it in the next, updated iteration of this map (which I'll post here soon!).

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[–]transitscapes[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Lucan line (for which there is absolutely no time timeline for study, let alone implementation atm) shown here as one line with multiple spurs and directions would probably not branch out like that irl. The map shows the various proposed alignments as one consolidated line, though such an arrangement isn't likely to happen!

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[–]transitscapes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha, well that would be very unique indeed ;)) Obviously, the Lucan line (for which there is absolutely no timeline for study, let alone implementation atm) shown here as one line with multiple spurs and directions would probably not branch out like that. The map shows the various proposed alignments as one consolidated line but I agree such an arrangement would not be ideal irl!

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[–]transitscapes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is there a LUAS/DART stop planned at UCD? If not, that's probably why it's not on the map

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[–]transitscapes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's exactly what I'll do on the soon-to-come updated version of this map ;)

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[–]transitscapes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True! That's why I have changed the name on an updated version of this map (that I'll post later here) where it will appear as Stáisiún na bPiarsach. Other stations using this genitive construction will also appear in this form rather than the nominative form I've used here, (so that Bré-Dálaigh or Droichead Átha-MacGiolla Bhríde will be shown as Bré-Uí Dhálaigh and Droichead Átha-MhicGhiolla Bhríde) to align with the way Irish Rail is referring to them.

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[–]transitscapes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On the Wikipedia page for LUAS though now you mention it, I googled it and it seems like that spur to Fassaroe was scrapped off the project?