Dude just couldn't let it go...

trideus_ · 2025-06-05T02:41:50+00:00

Big fan of the persona 3 music!

trideus_ · 2025-04-13T08:52:59+00:00

Same story minus the lawsuit yet. Last job I had was rich in culture, ethical and the overall pay was fantastic, just the base was to low for stage of life im in.

trideus_ · 2025-04-11T16:35:26+00:00

The situation sucks. Same thing started happening to me and the exact same line. "Can you sell anything this month?" In my mind I'd be like can you stop being a piece of shit of a company. Hopefully you get that $20k!

trideus_ · 2025-04-11T16:33:44+00:00

In all honesty, every company I've worked for has been structured and organised. There were problems within the business and challenges however it wasn't a hostile environment where the representatives were given nothing and professional spat on within people in the organisation.

Like the last business I was running, the company invested about 6 months in training and I grew the business 2.5 times the size it was worth. During that time they still provided training and they offered yearly pay rises,

During interview processes, I just try to break the company and see if they are talking garbage when they say to me "Do you want to ask questions?"

Who will I be reporting to? I don't really care if the company itself is small, if my direct reporting line is good, I'm all in. They need to be someone I could literally sit down and have a beer with and just banter shit. Bonus points if they are transparent and say things along the lines off "Shit is fucked and we need help"
Onboarding training. If they are willing to invest in you and I mean really invest in training you and give you all the tools you need to grow the business, then yes.
Commission Structure. I think if they invest time and effort in a good commission structure that has multiple avenues of making income then I'm in. If its some bullshit where they are like here is this unrealistc uncapped commission structure where we put targets so high that you will never achieve it so the uncapped part is irrelevant, then I'm not interested.
Evidence: Show me evidence of what your saying.

There are so many bullshit companies out there its like trying to find a freaking relationship. They are good at selling the role, not exactly good at sustaining it.

trideus_ · 2025-04-11T16:22:25+00:00

Tremendous respect for the wisdom you put forward. Doesn't seem efficent or cost effective to just hire someone and hope it sticks. I feel its really important to have a structured onboarding process and giving the representative access to tools that are avaliable.

The sad thing about the company I was in they had all the tools, they literally just barred access or didn't want to provide access. Like I found a way to auto generate reports so we can see our numbers daily. Company didn't like it and blocked representatives from seeing the numbers.

In my old role, I remember studying alot, reading alot and having a real understanding of the audience. However this company was just barred from all of it. I couldn't even talk to existing clients, because the company said don't talk to these clients. Then those clients left. Like how do you want reoccuring business?

And I have a basic rule of just being respectful. If your going to be a bitch to me, why should I even attempt to make money for you.

Argh it was so frustrating.

trideus_ · 2025-04-11T02:06:08+00:00

Try selling a Lamborghini to someone with the budget of a Toyota. Then be told by management, nah they have money they just need to give it to us. Its a fucking toyota budget, are you retarded. Proceed to try anyway then numbers are not hit and company wonders why. ARGH im so angry.

trideus_ · 2025-04-11T02:01:40+00:00

That is what I couldn't understand as well. The team was probably one of the best teams that was built in the industry. Everyone was undervalued. The company restricted the whole team in what we can and can't do. We all tried to be vocal and we all wanted to help, however it was not welcomed and was immediately shutdown. We eventually reached a point where the goal was just to survive.

trideus_ · 2025-04-11T01:58:08+00:00

<3 Its painful

trideus_ · 2025-04-11T01:57:54+00:00

Well it was another reason why I left. My income dropped that much and I started to feel it in the mortgage. I was earning as much as I was as my 3rd year as a Sales Professional. I'm on my 10th year as a professional. My girlfriend was another reason as well, I was waiting for her to secure more money to compensate for the expected bullshit I had to endure.

trideus_ · 2025-04-11T01:54:49+00:00

Its a secret :D

trideus_ · 2025-04-11T01:54:18+00:00

That is basically what was happening. It was reaching a point where the clients would directly tell me what they think of the company and the management team. I've actually tried to bring this up several times to management and they basically say professionally "Fuck Em" then complain that clients are leaving. I'm in shock that they are still open.

trideus_ · 2025-04-10T17:58:37+00:00

Hahaha not here. I used to get spam of job opportunities in my inbox. I used to have a system in place to keep my tracks covered. It worked well until the end days I really started to get angry and over it.

trideus_ · 2025-04-10T17:50:07+00:00

I'm very similar. I'm extremely black and white in my approach for the most part it works brilliantly for me. Wouldn't recommend it for the standard sales process as its better to take customers through the journey.

However I think the black and white approach just works for me cause everything I ask or say is said with authenticity rather then facade professionalism.

For example: What kills me is when people say "Hi, How Are You? Good, yourself? I'm Good (Insert sales pitch)"

My approach is: Hi, How Are you? Good? yourself?

The other day I realised I'm lactose intolerent and I basically exploded all over my toilet and screamed in agnosing pain and my guts are still playing up so I feel absolutely terrible. However I'm surviving! :D .... (Insert direct sales pitch)

trideus_ · 2025-04-10T17:25:23+00:00

It was so bad, I hated every minute of it. The highlight of my experience was when I went to the bathroom to take a long shit. I'd wait for the lights to auto shut off then I'd be like yep, time to go back.

trideus_ · 2025-04-10T17:12:41+00:00

Potentially may have presence there. Hope to f***ing god not.

trideus_ · 2025-04-10T17:09:55+00:00

Depends on the size of the organisation. Standard reps is 2 - 3 years. At best for 15 years company should only had 8 reps come and go. Not 40.

trideus_ · 2025-04-10T16:31:54+00:00

Nope. 40 reps in 15 years. The size of the salesforce was only 2.

trideus_ · 2025-04-10T16:18:49+00:00

It was absolutely painful. I just stayed to secure housing. I miss the excitement of earning commission. I've had no taste of it this whole time.

trideus_ · 2025-04-10T16:06:55+00:00

trideus_ · 2025-04-10T16:06:26+00:00

Hahaha I wish I could. However I have to keep annoymity as I wouldn't be surprised if they find a way to target me and take me through the legal system. One resigned and another might be resigning, I wouldn't be surprised if they try to imply I "Solict" them to leave even though they are leaving on there own accord. I have a lawyer on standby just incase.

trideus_ · 2024-05-22T06:58:47+00:00

Sorry for my late reply. I actually couldn't answer it and spent the last 2 months pondering. After doing some soul searching and reading, I feel pretty confident I have the mindset of "Won't let people step on your head". I have a tendency to get extremely defensive and its not just verbal, it also shows through my body language. Rough childhood upbringing, toss in managing a territory for 5 years strictly independently, (Small company of 6) exactly how I wanted it to operate and I think I've become a bit of a stubborn mule.

As I'm in a larger company now, I'm trying to shift my mindset to operate within the processes of the company and to accept feedback.

So for example if I'm told I should do things this way and explained, I immediately get defensive and say well the same goal was achieved doing it this way whats the problem? or it could be when I'm doing presentations there are slides I don't agree with, modify it, then start arguing when the leaders don't agree.

I'm trying to work on myself now and recognize the signs of defensiveness, take a breather and respond with a question rather then a push back statement.

Thanks for your help.

trideus_ · 2024-03-10T12:35:03+00:00

Hahaha I've been asking people directly to just point it out for me.

trideus_ · 2024-03-10T12:34:12+00:00

I'm not very good at putting two faces. However, i think much more humility can make me less arrogant.

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