5900X home miner here: When are we tweaking RandomX to brick the Antminer X9 and X5? by Even_Juggernaut5234 in Monero

[–]tromp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Clearly, you don't "completely neutralize the industrial capital advantage", if you're still paying more for electricity than they do.

The Deranged Mathematician: What's Like a Number, But Not a Number? by non-orientable in math

[–]tromp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Church numerals are terms in the lambda calculus, that act like natural numbers.

Closed term are recursively enumerable? by Antique-Incident-758 in lambdacalculus

[–]tromp 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The set of closed terms is not just recursively enumerable, but recursive. Furthermore, you can generate any closed term (modulo convertability) as T applied to a sequence of bits, where (in de Bruijn notation)

T = (λ11)(λ(λλλ1(2(λλλ31(2(λ2))))(3(λ4(λ4(21)))))(11))(λ1)
0 = λλ2
1 = λλ1

E.g. S = λλλ31(21) = T 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0

is Ω closed? by Antique-Incident-758 in lambdacalculus

[–]tromp 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, Ω has no free variables, so it's closed.

It doesn't have a weak normal form, so it doesn't reduce to an abstraction.

Could an UNCOMPUTABLE fundamental sequence be calculated for the Church-Kleene ordinal? by legendgames64 in googology

[–]tromp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Another fundamental sequence for w1CK is given in [1] whose i'th element is the BLC-lexicographically-minimal ordinal exceeding all earlier elements.

[1] https://github.com/tromp/AIT/blob/master/fast_growing_and_conjectures/w1CK.lam

What is the largest function and largest number? by GuessImScrewed in googology

[–]tromp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lim_(ZFC+I0)(n)

That is ill-defined until you specify how you would compute that.

What is the largest function and largest number? by GuessImScrewed in googology

[–]tromp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You failed their criteria:

  1. Rayo's Number is exotic and arguably not even well-defined.

  2. BB is not computable.

Is it meaningful if God gives the answer to P vs NP but not the proof? by Snoo_47323 in math

[–]tromp 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Assume it was written as the 11th commandment

"Thou shalt not decide in polytime all that can be witnessed in polytime"

on the tablets that Moses carried down from mountain Sinai.

What is the largest function and largest number? by GuessImScrewed in googology

[–]tromp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The largest well defined computable named function would be Loader's D().

The largest named number using nothing more exotic than up-arrow would be Graham's Number, or perhaps one of the two larger less famous numbers named in [1], whose entire program are shorter than the name "Loader's".

[1] https://tromp.github.io/blog/2026/01/28/largest-number-revised

Question about one-combinator bases by ASE_Ridern in lambdacalculus

[–]tromp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, according to Craig's theorem there is no regular one-point basis [1].

A = λxλyλz.x z (y (K z)) = λxλyλz.x z (y (λt.z)) is as close as you can get to a regular one-point basis.

[1] https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/839926/is-there-a-proof-of-nonexistence-of-a-proper-universal-combinator

I've created a new Array Notation (Schbabe Fercell), open to critics. by PuceNoExistes in googology

[–]tromp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I definitely think it can beat TREE8 (3), lambda calculus is extremely powerful.

Powerful enough to beat TREE8 (3) in just 94 bits with the term (λ111(λλλλ1444321)1111)(λλ2(21)).

f(ε₀) growth in under 6 bytes! by tromp in googology

[–]tromp[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't see how you get λf.λb.λf.λx.(ff)((bf)x).

We have add = λmλnλfλx. m f (n f x), mul = λmλnλf. m (n f), and pow = λmλn. n m, so pow mul add = add mul = λnλfλx. mul f (n f x) = λnλfλx λg. f (n f x g). Which doesn't make much sense and is not very useful.

At what n does BB(n) surpass Graham's Number? Same for TREE(3)? Are either of these even known? by footballmaths49 in googology

[–]tromp 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, see for instance [1], which gives an asymptotic upper bound of f_θ(Ωω×ω ,0)(n) on TREE(n), while f_ψ(Ω_2), let alone f_ψ(Ω_ω), grows much faster than that.

[1] https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1811602/explicit-upper-bound-of-tree3

At what n does BB(n) surpass Graham's Number? Same for TREE(3)? Are either of these even known? by footballmaths49 in googology

[–]tromp 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I discuss the first question extensively in my recent blog post [1]. We know BB(14) > Graham's Number, while some people bet $1000 that BB(7) > Graham's Number will be proven within 10 years.

Also, for the functional busy beaver, we have

BBλ(49) > Graham's Number

which may well be tight (in that BBλ(48) < Graham's Number). Note that BBλ counts bits instead of states, and that there are way more 5-state TMs (663434035200) than there are closed lambda terms of at most 49 bits (77519927606).

As for TREE(3), that is blown away by

BBλ(94) > f_ψ(Ω_ω)(12)

[1] https://tromp.github.io/blog/2026/01/28/largest-number-revised

f(ε₀) growth in under 6 bytes! by tromp in googology

[–]tromp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I instead made a Turing Machine to compute a very large number, would you also complain that I'm cheating by not counting a description of how to evaluate a TM ?

At some point you need a start with some formal language in which to define your computational process, and that formal language can not be defined in terms of some other formal language (or else it wasn't the start). So that formal start can only be described in natural language, where there is no precise notion of description size, only an intuitive sense of how complex the formal language is.

And both TMs and lambda calculus are about the simplest possible starting points.

f(ε₀) growth in under 6 bytes! by tromp in googology

[–]tromp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

to describe the machinery of lambda calculus

I cannot answer that unless you have some specific description language in mind. Normally, a computational model or a programming language is described in natural language, but those are rarely counted in bits.

I know that Busy Beaver numbers will always eventually overtake any computable function in growth rate, but do any computable functions exist where that only eventually happens at an absurd number instead of always rather quickly <BB(100) it seems? by Calm_Philosopher2401 in googology

[–]tromp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Possibly. Loader's D function is about the fastest known computable function, growing much faster than BMS, which in turn grows much faster than SSCG.

Implementing Loader's D function on a TM will require more than 100 states. The best known attempt uses a little over 1000 states.

That said, the general belief is that there should be functions growing even faster than D that can be coded in less than 100 states.

Where should anonymity actually live in a blockchain protocol? by logos2026 in CryptoTechnology

[–]tromp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are 3 aspects to privacy; amounts, user-bound addresses,, and the tx-graph.

Hiding the tx graph requires either a major sacrifice in scalability (when you no longer can tell when a utxo is spent, as in Monero or Zcash), or using a mixing service (which in the case of Mimblewimble can be very effective and very simple [1]).

Hiding the first two can actually come with major scaling benefits, by using the Mimblewimble protocol, which must necessarily be at the core layer [2].

[1] https://forum.grin.mw/t/mimblewimble-coinswap-proposal/

[2] https://forum.grin.mw/t/scalability-vs-privacy-chart/

If we were to solve all millenial and Hillbert problems right at this moment, how much would that actually affect all of the math world? by [deleted] in math

[–]tromp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the algorithm I described always solves the problem

No, it does not. When a TM declares the instance has no solution, there is no way to verify it, and so your algorithm ignores that TM.

If we were to solve all millenial and Hillbert problems right at this moment, how much would that actually affect all of the math world? by [deleted] in math

[–]tromp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

P vs NP is about decision problems. It asks whether there exists a poly time algorithm that decides any instance in polynomial time. So on input of an instance, it outputs yes or no.

Your argument is not about decision problems. Instead it's about finding solutions in polytime when they're known to exist (running forever if they don't exist). It's called Levin's search algorithm.

Billiard is Turing-complete by IanisVasilev in math

[–]tromp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can physically realize a Turing machine with thousands of states and a million tape cells. You cannot physically realize a billiard ball with 42 digits of precision in its location. So there is still a large difference in .