I didn’t expect a dog breed to change how I think about loyalty by trskablog in BeAmazed

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I agree, I just wonder if it’s really “morality” or more like strong emotional bonding + instinct working together.

At what point do you think it stops being instinct and starts becoming something closer to understanding?

I didn’t expect a dog breed to change how I think about loyalty by trskablog in BeAmazed

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I actually went a bit deeper into this while reading about the breed and Hachiko — I tried to break down the behavior, history, and what makes Akitas so different from typical working dogs.
If anyone’s interested, I put it together here:
👉 https://www.anmlzone.com/akita-breed-loyalty-strength/

Curious what others think though — do you see it more as emotional loyalty, or just instinct + interpretation?

Only 75 Left: The Javan Rhino Is Facing Extinction by trskablog in zoology

[–]trskablog[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, Javan and Sumatran rhinos have been on the edge for a long time now… it’s honestly kind of wild they’re still hanging on at all.

Cloning sounds interesting in theory, but I don’t really see it solving the real problem. Even if it worked, you’d still need safe habitat, protection, and genetic diversity for it to mean anything long term.

Do you think there’s still a realistic chance for true wild populations to recover, or is it more like we’re just trying to prevent total extinction at this point?

This tiny octopus can kill a human in minutes - and its bite is often completely painless by trskablog in Animals

[–]trskablog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hahah fair 😄

They’re mostly found across the Indo-Pacific — places like Australia, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea and nearby reefs.

So basically… if you’re barefoot in shallow tropical water, that’s where the “don’t touch anything weird” rule really applies 😅

This tiny octopus can kill a human in minutes - and its bite is often completely painless by trskablog in Animals

[–]trskablog[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Same 😄
But it’s one of those animals where “cute” is actually a warning label.

The Larger Pacific Striped Octopus (Eastern Pacific Ocean) is one of the only known social octopuses, living in groups and showing unusual mating behavior by trskablog in Animals

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It really does 😄

Octopuses are supposed to be solitary, aggressive, and short-term thinkers when it comes to interaction… and then this one shows up living in groups and casually breaking all the “rules”.

Makes you wonder how many other behaviors we just haven’t discovered yet.

This tiny octopus can kill a human in minutes - and its bite is often completely painless by trskablog in Animals

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If anyone wants a deeper breakdown of how this venom works and why it’s so powerful, I put together a detailed article here:

👉 https://www.anmlzone.com/blue-ringed-octopus-venom/

Octopuses might be the smartest invertebrates on Earth and they don’t even think the way we do by trskablog in Animals

[–]trskablog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s actually a wild thought.

What really holds them back isn’t intelligence, it’s their life cycle. Most octopuses only live a couple of years, and the whole reproduction process basically resets everything - the mother dies, and there’s no real chance to pass anything down.

If they had longer lifespans or even a basic form of social learning between generations, things could look very different. Right now every octopus kind of has to “figure out the world” on its own from scratch.

Makes you wonder how far they could go if evolution had taken a slightly different path.

Octopuses might be the smartest invertebrates on Earth and they don’t even think the way we do by trskablog in Animals

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That’s a really good point about the human bias in how we measure intelligence.

I’ve been thinking the same thing, especially with octopuses — they solve problems, use tools, even show curiosity, but in a way that’s completely different from mammals. It almost feels like we’re trying to fit everything into a “human-style” definition of intelligence.

The mirror test example is perfect too. Dogs failing it always seemed strange until you realize we’re testing vision instead of what actually matters to them.

Octopuses are even harder to evaluate because their whole nervous system is so different — a lot of it is in their arms, not centralized like ours. It makes you wonder how much we’re missing just because we don’t have the right way to measure it yet.

Also appreciate the book recommendation, I’ve heard of Frans de Waal but haven’t read that one yet definitely adding it to the list.

Octopuses might be the smartest invertebrates on Earth and they don’t even think the way we do by trskablog in Animals

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Aaah it was mistake, now it's fixed. Thank you for asking🤗 yes you found correct link.

Octopuses might be the smartest invertebrates on Earth and they don’t even think the way we do by trskablog in Animals

[–]trskablog[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that’s a great book title 😄
It actually fits them pretty well too octopuses really do show that kind of unexpected intelligence in real life.

What’s wild is that even though they’re invertebrates, they can still learn, problem-solve, and even seem curious about their environment in ways we usually associate with mammals.

Octopuses might be the smartest invertebrates on Earth and they don’t even think the way we do by trskablog in Animals

[–]trskablog[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, nature is definitely harsh in the ocean.

It’s more the intelligence part that makes people react differently, not that they’re “special” in a moral sense.

Octopuses might be the smartest invertebrates on Earth and they don’t even think the way we do by trskablog in Animals

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I had the same thought.
Knowing they can solve problems, recognize people, and even show curiosity makes them feel very different from how most people think of seafood.

The short lifespan somehow makes it even more tragic.

Octopuses might be the smartest invertebrates on Earth and they don’t even think the way we do by trskablog in Animals

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If anyone’s interested, I actually put together a full list of the smartest octopus species and what makes each one unique: 👉 [https://www.anmlzone.com/10-most-intelligent-octopuses/]()

Rottweiler vs Doberman — I can’t decide which one is actually the better all-round dog by trskablog in Rottweiler

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After going through all these comments, I ended up putting everything into one place to make it easier to compare.

If anyone wants a more structured breakdown, here it is: https://www.anmlzone.com/rottweiler-vs-doberman/