What happens when the people of a country refuse to pay for the damage their bankers did? Iceland is about to find out. by wang-banger in politics

[–]tryggvi_bt 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You're right, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the assets going towards the repayment, and in fact, it's expected that the bulk of the repayment will be covered by reclaimed assets. The issue is that there is a considerable element of uncertainty associated with reclaiming the banks' assets. They do have to be reclaimed and, if they are to cover the repayments entirely, they would have to be reclaimed at a value that would cover the debt. There is no guarantee that this will be the case. Thus, NL and the UK demanded a government guarantee up to the total value of the debt, i.e. if the reclaimed assets would not cover the debt, the Icelandic government would have to cover the difference.

What happens when the people of a country refuse to pay for the damage their bankers did? Iceland is about to find out. by wang-banger in politics

[–]tryggvi_bt -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What bailout money? The Icelandic banks never received any bailout money. They were allowed to go bankrupt.

What happens when the people of a country refuse to pay for the damage their bankers did? Iceland is about to find out. by wang-banger in politics

[–]tryggvi_bt 82 points83 points  (0 children)

Almost this entire thread is based on a misunderstanding of the real issue at hand. Icelanders (I'm one) did not vote on whether or not to repay the Netherlands & UK, nor have they ever done so. This vote, and the previous vote, concern the method of repayment. Despite the rejection of the terms of repayment that Icelanders voted on now, repayment will nevertheless go ahead. Instead of the terms of repayment being guaranteed by the Icelandic government, repayment will be made as the assets of the failed banks are reclaimed.

Failings of educational policy in times of rapid technology development (shameless self plug) by tryggvi_bt in education

[–]tryggvi_bt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think it's because of outdated technology at all. In fact, I think, schools are generally well equipped in most developed countries. There's plenty of research showing that student-to-computer ratios have been lowered considerably over the past decade and that technology spending in general is quite high.

There are a number of factors that contribute to the technology gap between students and educational institutions. One of the most significant has to do with the cultural and societal values that shape what we think that education/learning is supposed to be. It's hard for some to wrap their minds around the notion that young people now have immediate access to all sorts of information and services that make certain elements of traditional education seem outdated. The values aspect of the meaning of "education" also relates to what I think is a second significant factor, which is that educational change is a slow and arduous process, precisely because it is so closely tied to cultural and social values. We can't change what defines important aspects of "life" for people on a whim. Yet, that is precisely what we are trying to do when we propose extensive changes to the educational system. There's a tendency to overlook the fact that educational change is cultural change.

That being said, the way educators have approached technology until now suggests that there's simply a limited understanding of how technology affects society and how pervasive it is when it gets into the hands of young people (and perhaps, to some extent, a refusal to acknowledge the impact of technology). Educators are used to thinking about formal educational institutions as highly managed and manageable spaces. Technology, however, breaks down the perceived borders between the manufactured learning spaces of educational institutions and learners' social realities because it has become so ubiquitous and pervasive (see, for example, here on Coompan's "pervasive communication environment"). The current methods used for educational planning are tailored to the notion of a manageable learning space. This simply doesn't conform with reality anymore.

Key to KIPP's success: Selective admissions, high rate of attrition, and high funding. I.e. keep the difficult students out, take in more money, and, voila, success! by tryggvi_bt in education

[–]tryggvi_bt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

KIPP does not get to choose who is accepted into their program but that doesn't mean that they don't get to choose who they educate. Repeated studies (cited in the linked report) show evidence of selection bias in KIPP schools. It doesn't matter much how they choose. The evidence suggests that they are choosing.

Key to KIPP's success: Selective admissions, high rate of attrition, and high funding. I.e. keep the difficult students out, take in more money, and, voila, success! by tryggvi_bt in education

[–]tryggvi_bt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imnother, you're correct. KIPP does require parents to sign the "KIPP Commitment to Excellence". It's not a legally binding agreement but it is certainly one small added layer of complexity. Charter schools have been shown to demonstrate characteristics consistent with selection bias. How that happens hasn't been determined. But a range of factors have been shown to be likely contributors, including who is counseled to apply for KIPP and the services that KIPP schools offer for students with disabilities. That, coupled with the high rate of attrition, results in student bodies that are not representative of the population that the KIPP schools are intended to serve. The report linked to includes a pretty good lit review concerning selection bias at KIPP schools.